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Thats true as what does the Libertus have that Aptom would want really. So most likely aptom will just have a big ass fight, maybe the libertus have some sort of missle with anti-aptom enzymes in to weaken him, so these libertus are specially made to either delay him or take him out. That and i think aptom may have taken some of kahns zoalord dna in so maybe has some telepathy or such that maybe to draining to use so he could test it out on them to see what he can do with it. Though then again he could have kahns ability to merge and create giant aptom?

I was thinking of it being something like that though with what i said about making things more stream lined, like i said with ramothith being balanced between strength and speed, i was thinking that what balanced this out aptom would use the same so that he would have the speed of 15 men instead of 10 men. Though i was also thinking that he could add each type strength, speed, reflex and outh such to improve his own, so like combining the three most common and basic zoanoids gregore, ramonith and vamore brings it to 30 men and the speed of 30 men. While like you said absorbing more of the same type that he has done already would do nothing else beyond giving him more energy and biomatireal for him to use either then or later. This way if the character was to face say the hyper zoanoid team 5 he could then add through munching on some of their flesh their physical abilities besides their special abilities like Darzerb strength besides ZX-Tole who was i think near equal to darzerbs own. so that would mean st-60 + st-30 = st-90 men. though that would mean that absorbing the different zoanoid types would make the character nearly equal to the zoalord class and maybe exceding them in different areas in physical abilities. So basically he is using his bio-energy to boost either the energy weapons or all such weapons like Vamores bio blasters and could possibly do the same to gasters missles? Hell i don't see why he doesn't take the toxic chemicals created from vamores bio blasters and put them into the missles making them even more dangerous as besides the explosion if that doesn't get you then the toxins that would be sprayed about would.

Well back again and now let see what people think? Well i am going to re ask about the strength and other physical abilities of aptom like when he absorbs say a gregore he gains the strength of 15 men so then if he then absorbs a ramanoth which has the strength of 10 men but this also effect the speed/agility making it 10 men as well. So then he has abosorbed 2 zoanoids with different strength levels one at 15 and the other at 10 would he then add the two together giving him the strength of 25 men? Then on the speed/agility side gregore while stronger its is slower than ramanoth who is balanced between speed and strength. Would the same thing happen with the strength making his speed of 25 men balancing out the speed with strength this thanks to ramanoth? Then would he grow stronger with each more powerful zoanod type like in strength? Say he absorbed a dozen gregore types would that mean he would have the strength of 15x12=180 men? Or would his strength remain the same, say he had absorbed a gregore, ramanoth and vamore so a strenght of 30 men and then absorbed the dozen gregores would his strength go up to 210 or would it remain the same staying at 30 men because he already absorbed a gregore type and the only use the extra gregores are for are used as biomass/energy. So then if he had say a limit to each zoanoid types special power or ability he could absorb then each zoanoid with more power like in strength he absorbed he could increase his natural strength while adding another of the same type wouldn't increase his strength or such unless it had something new added to it? As aptom in canon should that he could in human form use gasters missiles would that mean he could use all zoanoid forms powers and abilities while as a human though some if not most would be limited unless he took on a zoaform? Maybe some need the full transformation to use fully? Though i know that someone will at somepoint say that in canon aptom stage one the stage he was at before balkus the head scientist upgraded him go take on the forms of other zoaforms though weaker could he not still do that without absorbing them? I would say unless the he absorbed that zoaform he would not be as strong pending on what that zoaform is capable of doing like say vamores lasers he could copy but wouldn't be as powerful though absorbing them they would then be the same as. Though that then brings up another point as it was limiting to the natural strength level aka power level as i am sure he could now channel the extra biomass/energy he has gained into such abilities/powers/weapons so the laser would be say five times as powerful i think its just a guess. Why all these questions well i am trying to get some idea on what aptoms abilties can do so that i can create a zoaform that would be similar to his though it would have the x-gene in. This is for a story idea i have where the x-gene is similar to rogue of the x-men and so chronos created a form that takes advantage of the gene though also not relient on it. So say pending on the how i spin it the alteration of himself into zoanoid now either requires him to take some blood and or flesh form a person in essence their dna thus granting them access to the persons powers and or abilties, also likely their knowledge and so on. Though his mutant power would likely either do a temperay copy of the power, ability and memories before fading after some time like an hour or two. that would either mean he could copy anything or ones powers/abilites for a time that i would thnk would mean even zoanoids or the other option would be that he can only copy energy based poewrs and abilites leaving the physical transformations like colossus out or wolverine or a zoanoid out.

Just a thought that could help, though it wouldn't be nano sized though. Well here is a crazy idea working on the arc generators. How about the person has a organ or group of organs (your choice) and either the size of the pancrease/kidneys or larger or smaller (your choice). Like i said these organ/s would be the organic arc generators that provide power/energy to the mitochondria and sort of give then a boost of sort so that they don't burn the body out as i think that is what happened with the creatures in the game parasite eve. They didn't have enough energy and so burned out their body or with eve caused organics to combust. This way it sounds to me slightly better than replacing the mitochondria. Then i think you would have regeneration similar to wolverine and some level of adaption like he does to posions, virus and so on that would be in some way like the warrior type guyver has though i would think that it would be slower than the WG types. Then the person would have either 3-4 ways of using them on is just off so only the mitochondria normal energy levels though maybe higher as they have to be able to handle the influx of energy tha come in. Then like a tap opening up so only a trickal of water or in this case energy gets through boosting the mitochondria to higher levels. The third half way open. And the fourth all the way and this one would be the most dangerous level as you would be drawing large amounts of energy and pushing/pumpoing it into the mitochondria increasing their power out put to levels possibly akin to say a hyper zoanoid or zoalord. then again maybe guyver level or one of the other types of guyvers. Though this is all in human form and so if you link it to the 8 gates in the naruto manga using the fourth level can be very dangerous pending on how long you have it open for. That and it is likely the person could just explode in a firery bomb like explosion. While in guyver mode i would think that it would be much safer as the CM could possibly handle the flows of energy released into the host. With them being organs i am sure you would think that they could be removed and studied and i thought of that and that they could have a fail safe that destroys the organs if removed from the host after a certain amount of time, heck maybe explode if to far away. Then again if you are going the machine route then it would be small arc generators placed in strategic places to better empower the person and act as back ups in case one is destroyed, removed or the need to draw more energy is need, same with the organinc versions. Maybe this would help, that and with the machine aspect it could be possible with what the WGU does know on power generations and such though they would have to make everything small to fit inside the body but also so that it works as it should. Heck the prototypes could over heat after a certain time and shut down.... or explode while the final verions handles it better and has a self repair so that should it get damaged it can shut down and fix itself while another goes to work. Though the organic version would have to be a creator experiment and likely either capturing the person and testing it on him/her or create some sort of virus that would infect the host/target and cause their body to start growing the organs, this would also mean that they would be hunting food and other things that the organs need to function properly. After that getting a guyver unit as i think in some where in this section its talked about if the guyver unit would remove something like that i think? Though it could what is harmful like a diease/viruses/posions and so on, while non harmful more helpful things the unit would likely leave alone???

By this i was wondering can the guyvers vibrational swords cut through derzerb Skin? That being said would the thancus type viberational swords also be able to cut through his skin as this suddenly came to mind if it was possible to happen. Though why i ask well i suddenly thought tha in canon we don't see sho or agito use their swords on derzerb.

Thanks as i wasn't really sure if a zoanoid guyver, having the kinetic armour would make it tougher than other bonded armours. that and i wasn't really sure if the guyver armour was a bit tougher and so could take more damage than kinetic armour. Though we know that the standard guyver 1-3 of canon isn't as tough taking more damage than the kinetic armour would from similar attacks. Though we also know that the kinetic armour takes 3 pressure cannon attacks to? Well would it be damage or bypass the armour to injure then body within? Then thats just the standard unit so if it were bonded to one of the other more advanced units then i would likely think that the damage the armour could take would rise to make it seem indestructable or should that be something like harder than diamonds or something. In someways i imagend either a guyver with the kinetic armour as a added part enhancing the toughness so it can take much more damage or its even harder like the Guyver Powered Zerebubuse, coupled with the regeneration factor that any damage that is suffered would nearly instantly gone though pending i think on the amount of injuries and how bad they are. Plus i think it would also depend on the guyver type? Or a zoanoid with kinetic armour besides other enhancement making it more of a elite neo hyper zoanoid or one of the zx-tole types bondng with the armour either the standard type guyver unit or the more advanced and how it would be much more durable to the attacks used aginest it. Heck would it it be able to take a single mega smasher and survive? Or would it take the level of a singel mega smasher cell to injure it or kill it, this i think would mean that the other standard weapons of the guyver wouln't be effective on it or like with the pressure cannon would need more than three to get past the kinetic armour. Though with the more advanced units some of them have shields protecting the body so getting past them would be a problem before the kinetic armour. That said if the shields go down or the shields are able to be turned on and off to consurve power or something like that then the kinetic armour would shine well.

Well what this is, well a comparason of armour in the guyver canon and warrior guyver universe that has been making me wonder. That an i am not sure if i or some one else hasn't already asked this question. By this i was looking at the zx-tole kinetic armour compared with the guyver. with over all which is better a handling damage dealt to it the kinetic armour or the guyver, also pending on which unit as well. Though i know that the guyver in any of its later forms has the advantage of high level regeneration so it can heal much more faster than zx-tole when it does take damage. Though then again one could ask which zoanoid armour is the best would it be the kinetic armour or would another com out tops. Then finally would a zoanoid with kinetic armour that bonds with a guyver any of the later forms, from the standard up to including the warrior types and nova types, how much more damage could it take?

Nah i don't mind what you are saying but you don't see much of ranma*. it usally ends when it is crossed over with something missing as if it could be better and that instead of just leaving it and doing nothing about the story. ( (*)what i mean with that comment of not seeing ranma i mean in a crossover situation with guyver) Why i would wantto use ranma of all things is that to me in my option is a intereseting character who from what i have read of him seems to be a character who while good at onething is poor in another and gets the short end of the stick alot, plus seems to be someone who the author wants to suffer. Yeah he is the main character but he doesn't really grow and putting him in a crossover with guyver which is very violent and gory, death being something that not only could happen but can with friends and family as well as innocense being targeted and turned into zoanoids of verying powers and abilities. Putting xmen evolution in with guyver takes the guyver history into a new twist with how life came into being on earth and then how mutants came into being. With how this can play havok with the canon with guyver as in some ways mutants can be classed as unprocessed zoaforms of a hyper class or proto-zoalord class needing only to be processed into a zoaform to gain full potential of their powers. by proto-zoalord class i mean that they have what is need to be the generals of the zoanoids but without processing may or never truly gain full access to their powers and abilities and so on. Plus using the xmen evolution for a crossover well the charactors most of them are young and not set in their ways or belifes. Thats the way i am playing it as that the mutants were part of the creators/advents plan to create the next step in the zoanoid class the hyper zoanoid with some for the proto-zoalord and zoalord class. Why create something like this in humans well besides a pool of powerful beings it would also be an experiment to see what can be developed and if having such in a base form will increase or have any improvements in the battle form. yeah this would also bring a chance for rebellion but i am sure as i think others who read this that the advent would have something to disable these potential hyper class battle forms from using their powers aganist them. Now pop in ranma into the mix of guyver and xmen and with all the chaos he is likely to create or such that will throw off how such would probably go with a guyver xmen crossover. Hence why i asked when thinking of this idea about what he should or shouldn't have: Zoaform = Yes/No Type of Zoaform; hyper, neo hyper, proto-zoalord or zoalord maybe new class of zoalord. X-gene aka mutation = Yes/No What type should he have that would suit him? What type of guyver unit; standard, modified unit maybe below warrior types aka fighter/battle guyver type i.g. guyver supreme, warrior unit, nova unit, W'kar, advanced unit aka angel guyver, new type of guyver mixed tech with Warrior guyver universe. As i planned on him having a guyver unit not sure on what type plus pending on what he had an X-gene or Zoaform. Why the last two well this world or universe the zoaforms would be that much more dangerous for him to deal with as well as the mutants seeking their own agender. Though i put the W'kar unit in just to give an idea, more a joke as it would really over power the main character. sort of like Alkanphel gaining either a warrior guver unit fully functional with possibly a gigantic unit or a W'kar possibly fully functional would make him too powerful.

Well it has been a while and I am slowly working on a Guyver story with the gargoyles in it with X-Men Evolution, slowly but surely getting it done, but I had to change the start point like cutting out how the main character got the Guyver unit and his zoaform and x-gene. I was using the x-gene similar to the type rogue has an absorber mixed in with aptom type zoaform to create a potential power house with a Guyver and I will see how that goes. The other idea I am mussing about was the same character which is Ranma of Ranma 1/2 getting thrown into another dimension and coming back with a Guyver unit. Here is where I am presently stuck in that should he have an x-gene and what type should it fit what he is. Like an energy type mutation allowing him to use one or more even every type of energy, a psychic like jean and mister m. Or should it be more of a body type like Colossus and Wolverine, Darwin, there are many and I really in all honesty can't decide what should be best to make use of in this. Though the other idea was the use of him being a Zoanoid either a hyper class, neo hyper or an unknown class or a Zoalord that and mixing the x-gene in again. The other thing was should he have a standard unit which I discounted, maybe having him have a unit mixed with the Guyver supreme and other standard types to create a new one though possibly just shy of a proper warrior Guyver maybe call it a battle or fighter Guyver. Or go for a Guyver in the class of the warrior or nova unit? Or just make up a new unit using data from all Guyver units in warrior Guyver universe and Great War of the Guyver? Though maybe not from great war of the Guyvers. Maybe instead just have give him a W'kar unit? Though on with the idea of the more advanced units I was thinking more along the lines to make it both hard and easier by having the unit either set at a low level making it about equal to a standard unit and over time it upgrade itself by releasing new tech from weapons, defence and other miscellanies stuff. Or like how the warrior type unit or advanced units act when they are over strained using to much power or heavily battle damage or both the unit powers down to allow for repairs to happen leaving the unit at the basic similar to a normal Guyver, though with a few advanced abilities. And over time as it repairs itself what it can thus comes back slowly bit by bit. Yeah adding such advanced units at the beginning of the Guyver series does and will change the storyline and difficulty for the other less advanced units 1-3. But either way with a advanced unit or not with him either having a Zoaform or x-gene would still make the unit much more powerful, pending on what the x-gene is and or if he uses his zoaform. So in the end I am asking you lot here on your option on what he should have and such as it will help me with the idea when I start writing.

Well in this case yes as at this moment in time for most of the stories of the guyver aptom is a plot device very useful one too. As you will have notived he does fill in the role in any story nicely as a sort of anti hero getting or finding information and such for the guyvers and their alliances but possibly having his own agender he is seeking to do whether that is one of many like akito or maybe not as grand but still someting that will be noticed. But until an author feels up to writing a couple of stories featuring him as the main character we wont really have a clear picture and role he has in the Warrior Guyver Universe. As any story written on him as such will have to hit some points of the other guyver stories written that aptom appears in. though if this is the main aptom or just one of his clones would have to be upto the author as aptom can split himself up into identical copies of himself and send them out to act like a spy and gain information. that and what ever the data file says will give the author an idea on what to write like gaining any new zoanoids or who he has helped and so on. though with the data file there would i think be some problems as if he absorbs a new zoanoid that isn't on the data file or such then updating it would have to be done. but we have gotten off topic a bit as i think this is reall about what guyver characters or other more known zoanoids or characters need their own time to shine instead of a quick 2-3 lot of paragraph of them doing something or mentioned doing something.

yeah i agree with you that in your stories aptom is more as a character who in the ends provides whatas need for the main star to obtain whatever it is that is needed. not that his role when it comes to it inthese stories is a lesser character just that its more along the role of a spy and not a front line fighter like most guyvers. that being said someone else would have if they are up to doing it write the story of aptom and fight it into the warrior guyver universe.

With the Enforcer Prometheus i would think that with only one control medal fully merged properly he would have to modes as unless the matrix enhances the control medal to handle the power or makes it into a duel or having something up to the level of a warrior guyvers control medal. This i mean having not one processer like a standard or two or three but four. So maybe the Matrix using the control medal fully merges the control medal with the zoacrystal and then splits it and merges the second half with the enforcer crystal. Thus making a similar to the enforcer kavzar though with some of the weapons and such being useable but once the battle is finished i would think the new enforcer prometheus would need to go into the cocoon to fully transform to both handle the power going through the body. Though what my first idea was when reading this was he would have two modes one the attack mode and the other the defence mode. By this he has to make a choice and which ever he chooses he sacrefices power to the other systems so defence his weapons get weaker but his defence systems become much, much stronger to use. This doesn't mean he can't use his defences or weapons just depending in which mode he is in that one of these will be weaker. But given the chance and what i said about the control medal being split this would i think either stay in one place or moved like the enforcers own and placed somewhere else to better protect it from destruction or damage. Though when i think about the placement when having two i am more inclined to think that having two is so that the enforcer can continue its mission if one is damaged but can be repaired, not just a power regulater. Possibly able to regenerate the destroyed control crystal though maybe only when not in battle maybe in hyperspace or in a tank on the advent worlds.

Well i know this character isn't a guyver and such but he does help the guyvers and the other human forces when he can while collecting data and zoanoids. This person is aptom who doesn't have a data file or any stories in what he has been up to beyond those guest appearances in some of the guyver stories. So why not have a go at righting 2-3 stories with aptom either during the cronos take over or after, each one could deal with something not dealt within some of guyver stories be it from the novas or angel birth of the psi guyver or warrior guyver even the seven days of hell which i would think aptom would have enjoyed to some extent with so many new or improved zoanoids running about even the creators ship to absorb parts of. this could be a way for you to relax from the constant guyver main characters so basing a story on the rogue zoanoid aptom from his creation along with his team mates, there death and him being reprocessed and seeking his revenge to becoming the rogue we know now and what he gets upto through the different guyvers appearing. That or if you aren't up to writing about him then getting someone else as it would be good to see what he gets up to. sort of like with the other rogue zoanoids from the naturals the ones that were left behind to survive when the advent left to those zoalords that are now rogue.

well the guyver could do very little to enhance goku but like you said it could bringthe full potential or what he is capable of at that moment in time. then again it could enhance to the potential that goku's current body can do, which changes each time he exhasurst himself training or in battle plus surviving wounds that would kill normal people and come back stronger, then adding in the SSJ states not sure if counting SSJ4 or not. but with such the guyver would easily have near unlimited energy as goku would generate a lot and the guyver would be able to quickly recuperate the loss. as what i was thinking would be that besides the "bring out potential" part there are the other enhancements like the regeration part would be like cell as well as the part of his senses being enhanced, plus the weapons output would be monsterous.

Well i wasn't really sure as i read straight from the manga that the suit strength allows the use of 30x but it does really say if that is in addition tothe wearers own strength like if someone like captain america was to wear it out that mean he had over 30x his own strength? though it doesn't say if all his physical abilities are enhanced by 30x as well just his strength as it is a muscle suit. though working out how strong he or she is the wearer would be difficult to judge i think as like i said 30x strength? the armour value i wasn't really sure of as it could stop bullets because of the metal but it really doesn't say about kinetic damage, though with the blae of the guyver and possibly the thancus i admit that probably it will cut though it as well as the pressure cannon. though i would think it would take on like you say low level zoanoids but does that mean anything up to a gregore or up to zx-tole hyperclass of zoanoid, as gregore is rated at strength of 15 men and zx-tole something around 45-55 men.

just rememebered reading spriggan and the armoured muscle suit. in that on chapter one and page 34 he describes it giving him protection against all kinds of bullets and possible to use 30 times the normal strength. would this grant a normal human able to battle a zoanoid or even a guyver? that and the material do you think it would be able to stop or slow down the vibration blades of a thalcus or guyver?

Chemistry is not only how different substances interact but also releasing or absorbing energy. . . Like burning Oxygen leaves you with Carbon Dioxide. . .the Vamore would have used up the chemical energy to fire the laser and byproducts aren't really useful unless you introduce another chemical that can react with that byproduct to produce something useful. Loss of energy is unavoidable though. . . Alternatively you can give the Gargoyle the ability to inject these toxins into an opponent, poisoning them and purging the Gargoyle at the same time. . . so they could have a gland of some sort to turn the waste into something more deadly, or have two blends one with the gland adding the chemical and the other without so the first one could be lethal while the second not so but enough could kill pending on the being it wsa injected into. that would mean the claws on hands and feet and possible in other useful combat edge though most likely in the teeth, though if they were to spit it then something like the king cobra spitting equipment would have to be part of the mouth, or if not in the mouth then likely the hands? though having it in the hand and mouth would make it a useful placing as when they inject it via the hand claws it would spray deeply. though who dangerous would you say the toxins that vamore stores in its body are, just to give us a ruff idea when compared to other poisons and such?

so essentully these chemical lasers produce toxins but how poisonous are they, as if there is a limit to how much the vamore can store or make usable to generate another blast. Then if not couldn't the toxin then be used like gasters liquid explosive this would also allow vamore an extra weapon but clean away the build-up of the by product of using the lasers. the if in any way that one of the methords are used to deal with the toxin either storing it or making it into something useful for creating the laser are there glands that make the chemicals to generate the laser? in some ways this would be useful for a gargoyle type as it would have something that could create a laser and at the same time build up poisons for use though i would expect that to continue using the laser the poisons would have to be emptied soon or stop using the laser or risk the storage sack rupturing and thus likely posioning the gargoyle.

The idea I had or have now is, comes from something I read on anime addventure site that has the main character gaining a special type of symbiot that pending on the thread either effects the body or creates a armoured form. In this idea it gains access to the Guyver from the organism to the control medal allowing it to fully understand its potential and as well make alterations. Like in the part of the control medal it say notices that while powerful in its function and processing abilities it sees that its using up a lot of power or processing power and such in the functions and so on like a computer and so creates a special program to optimise how it does things which also means itself. Thus such tasks it normally does takes less power to do so and the knock on effect would say be an improvement in the use of weapons like the head beam becoming more powerful, wasting less energy with each discharge and maybe gaining two modes that one allows it to create a bolt of laser energy like a blaster bolt in star wars and a continuous beam able to go on for a minute or such level of time? This would also be applied to the other weapons so the recharge time for the mega smasher could be less than in a normal unit, that and it could also release a long duration, distance and beam width than normal. Plus it could add a program to start charging the mega smasher before the chest plate is opened allowing a quicker discharge than normal, maybe even use this to act as a super charge like how the CPM can be used to increase the power out put of either a weapon or a Guyver over all? This could also mean the Guyver level or regeneration would be greater than normal as it can efficiently use the energy better and also possible increase the attributes like toughness or durability? With this little thing in there acting like a extra A.I. which isn’t restricted like the one in the control medal so it is able to make alterations or improvement which could be considered maybe as upgrades when something like enzyme comes calling it could make changes to the bio-armour to have resistance to it or immunity etc etc. Though any actual physical alterations i think would have to be done while the unit is deactivated as while it is functioning on the person it wont have much or any time to make the changes only those like programing i think within the control medal.

why i wanted to know was to create a character who had something similar to aptoms zoapowers and abilites but mixed in with an x-gene. like the zoaform and powers, abilities were constructed around the x-gene thus taking advantage of some or all of its powers and such. thus i need to understand broudly some of or most of his powers and abilties, an after reading up on his canon file though not much which stated that his brain was encoded with his library of stolen zoaforms and such onto his dna or genes so he would be able to reform himself with out losing anything of himself. that was why he could create clone or duplicuts of himself as they would have everything he knows and he could reabsorb them gaining whatever new zoaforms or what they learned without risk to himself. though why he didn't use this when he was turned into chaos aptom i don't know as then he could have killed this one though he would have lost anything new it had? but this is a tall order to work on. though this would i think have to be done with the character having been in the WG universe as they would be more advanced or in some similar universe that or ending up in the past with the advent/creators. though which is the better name to use advent or creators, plus the name for this type of zoaform?

i sort of back slide then with what we were discussing as i seemed to make the gargoyle stronger again but is still needs some work but we have a basic idea on the type, powers and abilities. though i have a question on the bio-lasers that were suggested? are all bio-lasers like vamores own and thus create toxins. if so what happens to the toxins to they get turned back into something useful or do they get expelled out of the body after a time being stored? if they go one of those ways then i thought that they could be used by mixing with the other poisons or such if they are weak in potency this toxens could make them more dangerous or the poisons could be the toxens slightly altered via a little something added? this way not much is wasted and is put to good use.

that's an idea but i really didn't want them too powerful and then i did want to take advantage of the fact a zoanoid could turn into human form. though i suppose if if made it that while seriously injured they couldn't turn into a human and had to take on the stone sleep so as to heal the damage, not sure if in human form when that injured they would either revert to zoaform and then stone or to stone in human or be unable to do so. but a limited amount of regeneration great enough to handle some or most wounds without turning to stone sleep would be something they would have, that and feeding vai absorbing sun light in that state. the bio-lasers if they have them would have to be either located in the hands, feet and head or just in one area not spread out, but like you said limited use and more like the guyvers head beam as in pin-point attacks not like vamores or the other zoaforms. that is an idea sort of a muliti role zoaform and if they are put into guarding something or someone they would likely remain in stone sleep waiting till someone or thing tripped their special senses, but the range would have to be high so that they could be ready to go into combat quickly in stone sleep than when awake and active.

i had forgotten about him the mad scientist but it has been some time since i last watched such for inspration. that i didn't know but it would give them a reason to sleep during the day as they wouldn't have the energy to absorb during the night, as starlight wouldn't be enough for them to feed and heal with. yeah i have though i am going to have to watch it again but like you said that P-zerebubuth need to get into a tank to replace the energy lost, though if adding the elegen organ this i would off set it to a degree as either a side effect for helping in lift-off or the other way round. but they would need to after extended combat either to turn to stone or return to the bio-pod of the advent to replace the energy lost, as i could see that the organ wouldn't be up to giving limitless recharge just a limited time frame. though from what i could tell with p-zerebubuth was using his more powerful energy defence and weapons, the laser, vibrational blades and the sheild all at the same time and that gobbled up all his spare energy leaviung him just enough to shamble off out of the combat zone. i had forgotten that the zoacrystal grants a reserve or boost to the energy levels of a zoalord, but the gargoyle type wouldn't have the telepathic ability they have and i would think that they would have to carefully choose what they use during their missions.

i think he would need the regeneration part to help when he changes forms and grows the extra parts and such. though i am sure he need to either repalce the energy and bio mass he used to regenerate and thats why he was hunting zoanoids besides adding any ability he didn't have to his library. though i think am likely to go with the oxygen side that his entire body can do the same work as his lungs and better when he needs the oxygen. so we have covered his regeneration but something i forgot and just remebered though i think its in the anime not sure on the manga is that he created clones of himself and used it when he fought zx-tole when he hunted down the hyper-zoanoid team 5 and kept himself from being killed. though in that scene he also got a hold of zx-toles arm or a limb i think that zx-tole then cut off so he didn't get eaten like the others. yeah i agree on that point i was just putting that in as an idea i was having as that would certainly change things for shos father though he would i think be very strong more than show or agito not sure when compared to a gigantic though. same with aptom in the guyver state but like you said it would be down to me and also what form he is wearing at the time. i forgot he had done that so your right in that his power level is that much higher, how high i am not sure but would he be near the level like balcus, Imakarum and alkanphel in powers as they are the strongest of the zoalords with alk being the one in the lead, though its up in the air with the guyver zoalord though i think a better chance than before. well i am not really keen on the movie as i don't think they really used the full potential a guyver has or a guyver zoanoid. as i think the guyver power level kept going up and down or all over the place during his fights but then you could say its down to the fighting style and how used to the armour you are vs the zoaforms. but it don't give me the right impression as one could say that the damage to the control medal kept the guyver zoanoid from reaching its full potential. thats true i can believe that it would increase the power though i was just thinking each missle could be considered equal to one mega-smasher cell. as i said before that one missile could blow off a guyver sword blade in that quote so it could possible blow the arm off and/or take more than that off as well, or it could be equal to all 18 missiles being used at once on one target. and the liquid i would think just the same but the pressure it come out at would be even more dangerous as it would be like a fire hose or one of the fire trucks, slice and dice with one spray undercutting a wall or two and then hit with the other and boom

yeah it does look that way and if you think about it then they could be classed as the first hyper zoanoid the advent created at the same time they were doing the first zoalord Alkanphel. as when you consider they could be used to do scouting/recon, harassing the enemy while away from the main army and also guarding a area or site that being a relic, building, artifact or person. as they could have started creating the more powerful zoaforms and started with flyers as they would need to be more powerful and the gargoyles were the more succesful of the flying types with near all rounded abilities though i would think there would have to be some flaws in it but then what i listed already could cover that in the weakness. though i don't think putting the pieces back together would get it to regenerate if smashered in stone sleep but then maybe a bio pod ot the processing tubes could revive one? just not sure on that. but then it would take some effort for say a normal human to destroy a stone sleeping gargoyle and the same for most zoaforms minus the very strong hyper zoanoids or a zoalord using its powers?