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Basically what I was thinking is similar in part to the other what if, well it should have been what if Sho's Guyver that is if it's in the right section of the forum of the guyver board? In this case what would have happened if Risker hadn't activated the Guyver but or a slight twist: A) The zoanoid found it, as it is damaged. B) It's lost and is either found by someone else, not chronos, or Sho's friend finds it and it activates it. C) If Risker had been a hyper zoanoid and bonded to either a damaged unit G2 or an undamaged G2 D) Like the first two but it isn't in the damaged state from its landing when found, plus Risker gets it in undamaged state and activates it. So that last part could be a D question but just thinking about it also begs the next question would Risker choose to be turned into a hyper zoanoid, would it be a common one like Zerebubuth or one of the Hyper Zoanoid Team 5. Though one would be under commander Guyot and may even be a cross with Enzyne, and the other would be under Dr Balcus (? name spelling not sure) and pending if he saved the data on Enzyne 1 and such used to make it. If so something nastier than Enzyne 1-3 could be created mixed with the hyper zoanoid team five and zerebubuth. But in the end what type of hyper zoanoid would he be and what would that trooper the guyver zoanoid do, still remain loyal or severe ties with Chronos? or become Sho's friend? Though one idea still bugs me a bit would be from the Guyver movie OVA "Out of Control" with the female version of Risker, Valcuria, I wonder what type of hyper zoanoid she would have been made into and then say bonding a Guyver unit during a find of another Relic in America before the incident in Japan. So Risker also being real as her and bonding G2 like normal but coming along before or after commander Guyot how would such a twist occur, was going to ask if there were a data file on a Guyver bonded hyper and there is one but that's Powered Zerebubuth and none of the other hyper zoanoid types. As I would ask what enhancements or improvements would there be in such bondings with these other hyper types?

well not to through stones in glass houses but i just watched episode 2 of the new guyver series and unless vamore was using his full power in that episode he really didn't go through 30 cm of concrete as you said, as the wall doesn't look that thick maybe 20 cm. though it is hard to tell really but it looks like 5-10 cm it vaperised, though maybe latert on in the series the vamore type gets an increase in its bio-lasers to do that sort of damage? but then there maybe differances between the new guyver, ova guyver and the manga on the power vamore has so if thats the case which do we take as the true power of vamores bio-lasers? that and how well can he focus the blast, by that i mean when he aims it is there a certain point were he can't hit like the current in a river flows around the rock. though a bit crude in the imagery but the picture i am trying to give is that at a certain distence like closer the target and smaller he isn't going to hit if it stands between the beams. unless he can use one pod and aim that way? of course you then gat in that episode the difference between vamore's bio-laser and the guyvers mega smasher as it destroies most of the wall with vamore along with it, plus you get to see another difference as the megasmasher beam radius is much larger than vamores so no standing between them as it comes from the chest not the shoulders. though with vamores bio-lasers being on his shoulders the radius has to be smaller than risk damage to his head or blowing it off, though if it was else where on the body of his head not in such a forward position then i would say the radius would be larger.

Hi, just a thought but in every data file it gives the strength level of either Guyvers and Zoanoids on up from basic to advanced units and forms like Warrior Guyver and Zoalords. Though it may have been asked, what I would like to know is how much each being, Guyver and Zoanoids and up, can lift besides saying they have the strength of 100 men or 200 men but what is the weight like 1 ton, 2 tons like that so if anyone has any idea on how to do a basic translation from men to weight lifted then could you please tell me?

well another way to look at is like a creater using the w'kar element in making a bio-armour similar to the guyver units but surpassing such. that is a very powerful unit even damaged and is able to find a way to gather the power to help repair the damage it is suffering from so a M-medal guyver would i think be made to enable the full or near full potential of a matrix medal. though each of its systems from defence, weapons and such would be fairly advanced, versitial and powerful to take advantage of the matrix. though another way to look at it is what a guyver with a full matrix merged with the control medal either 1-4 CM, as i am sure it would facinate a creater though it would be very dangerous should it end up in anyone elses hands but the creater that made it.

well it really depends on the reality or how insane the creater is when he gones about making such a thing like warriorzoalord said the need for a large energy source would have to be at the final prototype stage or production model, without the energy source the M-medal would most likely function limitedly so only the high level processing. or pending on the situation one of its functions like it could do some upgrading to the unit either when in the boost dimention or when activated which would mean that the host may find him or her self wearing the armour and having never activated it. that and the creater could limit what it could or can do like only the bio-armour and its systems like sensors and weapons getting upgraded and no doing this to other units?

by that what i mean is that a guyver unit created with a matrix crystal in place of the normal c-medal. seeing as this would be a full undamaged m-crystal it would be more powerful and thus make the unit and host bonded to it that much more dangerous than a fragment bonded to a worriors CM. unless it has 1-4 CM to control or limite how much it can do without permission and such? though it would have to be an insane creater to even make such a unit but it does make it interesting to see what weapons, powers, bilities and etc it has and develops?

i thought the matrix was either created by the creators from another reality that was able to see into that reality were the WG project was created/started and where the first guyver-zoalord came into being. and were much more addvanced so either created or used the matrix to create the gret barriar to stop such a creature escaping from that reality and if so thenany type of warrior project there would be very different to the one in that reality. thoughth e matrix is a quntum computer so it is highly like imo that even without any knowledge and /or data on the warrior projects it could develop new and also improve the standard guyver systems to higher level and maybe through connections to both the host and say to a computer network, internet and what ever knowledge it has stored be able to make a proto WG just would take time and evolve at each encounter that requires such drastic improvements to the guyver. but then maybe if the matrix is a whole crystal and not a fragment then there maybe a major differencese to the matrix-WG as that is a fragment but still very powerful maybe not as powerful as a whle crystal but still powerful in its own right. though i wonder if the martix if all the peices could be tracked and found could repair itself maike it whole again would it stay merged to the WGs CM or come off it?

true but first you have to find him and he could still have access to either his zoaform though without the crystal he could just be at a high level zoanoid or hyper zoanoid forms or have use of some or all his zoalord powers but nothing like when he had the crystal. sort of like only 15% - 25% something like that so he isn't likely to go round controlling a lot of zoanoids or preforming gravity attacks and such without great need like life or death. well i have another questionwhich basically goes; comparing a zoacrystal to a kazvar and up what are the differences as i know the kazvar and upper levels function like a guyvers CM (control medal) but are they a mering of the crstal in the CM and the properties and abilities of that and the zoacrystal. so would this mean that should a zoalord processed be given a kazvars crystal would he become more powerful in his powers and abilities as well as what else would he gain. Oh besides the proto guyver is there any data on the CM before and after a zoacrystal was added then orjust the CM then kazvar, sort of like three kazvar crystal so eigth data files showing the differnces of the power and processing abilities of the CM with each crystal merged with it? like which would be on par with the warrior guver or the warrior guyver gigantic or surpass it? that and what if such had been used in the creation of the warrior guyver projects like adding a zoacrystal to the CMs with 1CM, the 2CM, 3CM and the the final 4CM and each CM having a zoacrystal each. though maybe they could modify it fo some other perpuse like ram memory or suchor allow the CM to overclock?

though it could depend on the reality the guyver is in that the matrix arrives so if it isn't the WG universe then the matrix could upgrade the guyver to something the host needs. or something along those lines as the matrix unit may or may not have come in contact with WG or any of those in that universe. though if it had the host could end up with a combination of the other units and come out with something as powerful, less or in between being a actual WG unit.

that seems to be true, by that i mean that the mark II is always used on advanced guyver units like the warrior units and nova not sure on the fighter guyver as i thought that was a w'kar unit type, but i don't think anyone has written a standard guyver unit getting a mark II upgrade which be interesting to see don't you think? when you think about how much more powerful these other units are and that the mark II increase and improves what they have or fixing any problems and also possibly adding weapons and such, then i would think that a standard unit could possibly gain an upgrade to something like near warrior class. though that i would think depends on what the mark II can do to up mutation and creation of more than one control medal, even adding extra rings and such to help enhance it and maybe adding a zoacrystal or one of the kavzar type crystals to increase the over all power, function and so on. thus allowing for the unit to handle the upgrade propely and fully. with sho i thnk the basic thing is that he isn't as agressive as agito he's morehelpful and such so i don't see him going out and hunting chronos unless he is conviced, he is more likely to just protect the area he and his loved ones are in from them. though from time to time i could see him going on he hunt because of the maxed emotions and destroying any and all zoanoids he finds and their bases.

yes i think there is somewhere on the board it states something on the mark II stats though i am not sure if they touched on the standard G-unit being upgraded, i know it was a different unit that got upgraded but not sure whoses though i belivie that dark nova got an upgrade for her type. but that wasn't a general upgrade mark II meaning it can be used on any guyver unit baring one with everything that the mark II would upgrade that is already done. from what i remember the talk on it pending from what reality it comes from new improvements on whats already there or upgrades to new tech like the HSL or the cpm and bio energy doubler each grant either near unlimited stamina or boosting the power output for a limited time and so on. so any break throughs in those realities on an advnced model of the guyver and so on would i think be shown though like above pending on what happend there. so if someone who knows more on the mark II upgrade stats and such could you please point out where the data file is so i can read it or if someone has a guyver mark II a standard guyver upgraded data file. i would have thought with the w'kar either the true w'kar or the lesser types ending up there and sho getting it that chronos would be forced to start looking at improvements in the zoanoids and looking at the lost numbers to making them. that said we can't really tell how sho would react and what he would do as through the begining up to relic point he doesn't go out to deal with them. though i think agito would be pissed as sho has the potential to be more powerful than him even if he was the one to make the gigantic armour. though who would wear the first unit guyver 1 if sho is wearing the w'kar? one of his friends or does some one from chronos wear it say valikury (sorry forgot the name spelling) or malmot who would then be the first guyver zoanoid of the series. this change in the storyline like sho getting a WG-unit would also cause the heads of chronos to start looking for power increases in themselves and their soldier just like above though i would think it would not be as serious and dangerous as it would be with the w'kar units. so they would have more leasure to create any counter units and such but sho would still be a dangerous force though from what was seen he would be trying to protect his friends from being killed or captured and then turned into a zoanoid.

hi been a while but i was wondering on what sort of upgrade would the mark II unit give to shos guyver? like the strength, speed a hsl and so on improvements to the unit like adaptive bio armour to enzyines attcks and such? that and how would everything have turned out from the beinging say with a mark II guyver or like the W'kar damaged or not being with the basic g-units and what or who would use g-unit 1, or a WG-unit with or without a MKII upgrade so much like the prototype WG but either fully working or like the original or after the MKII. though i would think that it would change greatly as who ever gets the g-unit 1 would most likely go through sho's path of getting into chronos japan and maybe making the gigantic upgrade but i am not sure really? but the enimy chronos will find it very hard and needing to make the neo-hyper class zoanoids before they would be deployed to take him on. just a thought really oh the units would have to have been cast some how through the dimentions to this world hence the more advanced designs and features and such.

thats been asked a lot though not in this post, some think thats its linked with the hearing using the antenna to increase it's power. then again we don't see guyver 3 with them but some believe that its hidden under some of the armour or in a different place other than where its on g1 and 2. though i have to say i was wondering when someone would ask that sort of question

thats true it could very well be deadly to either all organic matter other than itself or all types of matter, as the second version can spit the enzyne the boosted enzyne could do the same or have that ability and a spray as well. with the enzyne able to put the liquid through its claws and fangs i would think that the vibrational swords could well do that or instead of being vibrational use the liquid to cut into the target. though it would be nice if someone did there impression on what the three types of enzyne would look like bio-boosted. now that would look cool though the promblem i see with enzyne 3 is that its all instinct and now human thought at all making it deadly to everything as the guyver blocks zoalord telepathic control.

but it would have to be live like organic tissue like i said about a animal finding it or stepping on would activate it, so unless it then scans the dna or something that touched the medal or switch and then says that it fits some parameters of such before the merging process happens. with the damage of unit-g2 on the medal would likely cause it to flux from active to dormant as well as there being anything in the way between the target host and itself. which would explain why it didn't try and merge with anyone else like one of the soldiers that picked it up and placed it in the case, because of this when lisker was close enough when it was later opened just happened for it to activate. though with a lot of talk about wither a unit-g can merge with a zoanoid this could play into that as a lot of the people that handled the unit were more often than not a zoanoid barring a few, this could also be why it merged with lisker as he was still human, though it could be because of the damaged state it was in? though here is a question that on boosting a zoanoid what would have happened if an enzyne had gotten a unit, the blood should have either started to destroy the booster organism or ignored it then it either gets boosted making it even more dangerous and flexible in use than before or it just stays the same nothing different about it like balcus had made it.

thats a thought really on the switch, does someone have to press it or just touch it. that and what like is it organic or inorganic as it would have been a problem if something touched it and was inorganic and it activated. so it must has a sensor that can tell what touched the medal fits the parameters for it to bio-boost if not it wont. as it could very well get activated by some animal and you would have a bio-boosted dog, cat or some animal that goes chasing cats or cars and ends up ripping them up not something i would want my dog coming back dragging a car or a truck that its killed. with the sensor idea it could also explain how the damaged unit-G 2 activated when lisker got to close it sensed that the person was suitable and merged with him, lets say it took longer to come on line or it was coming and going that was why it didn't take one of the zoanoids that collected it.

well something else though i am not really sure about this but what are the reflex rates of a guyver zoanoid as i looked trying to compare that with a gigantic as it said the strength was the same,and besides the max stats for most of its abilities for the G-zoanoid being on the same level of the gigantic but not all. but then i think that it is dealing with the power level of the host being so high reflecting on the boosted form, but like i said there is nothing to say what the g-zoanoids reflexes are at?

well as the title says what is kinetic armour as we have in the data files in zx-tole how it is bio armour that is both powerful and flexible able to adjust it's hardness to a wide range of attacks. thus how is it doing so, is it using chemicals or energy maybe both to adjust the hardness, then also how does it tell how powerful the attack is as i would assume it changes to a level that can stop or slow down the attack. but then you would assume that the armour could go to even greater levels than it could normally by detecting the most powerful weapon the guyver has and adjusting for it. though it says for when damage does happen it uses energy to rapidly regenerate the damage. then if you remember in the old guyver ova zx-tole when hit with the head beam then pressure cannon had a strange effect on the armour like it had some form of energy shield or field dampening the attack, until the use of a double pressure cannon over came the armour. though i haven't had the chance to check the new anime or the books that i got my hands on yet so i can't tell if they have the same affect or something else. as you would think that in some of chronos zoaforms such armour woud find it's way on to some zoaforms maybe a limited group but to see how well that type survives with it. that and how well a guyver with it on do?

thanks that is useful but i think i made a mistake when typing the question up sorry. what i meant was a dormant unit not activated like in the manga or anime when they are found either by sho or chronos how big are they and heavy before taking a host the dormant unit. thats what i meant sorry as when i read over the question again i realized that i had put it in wrong but what you have put up for that is useful. then is there any difference between the standard dormant units and those in the warrior guyver universe as those were meant for war unlike the standard units. it's just something i wondered about when looking at the manga and anime that there really isn't anything to say how big and heavy but they aren't to heavy as sho was able to life it and it wasn't to bulky. i even checked the data files in the WG side and it didn't give anything on the weight and size/dimensions of the dormant unit. to the mega smasher is like a kinetic like weapon and the flayer isn't though it's name does give you the idea what it does. though an idea if the creators were making new guyver units then if they gotten a hold of a zxtole with it's kinetic armour and applied that to a unit, would that make the unit durability even greater than it was before, this is a standard unit.

though nothing to do with the armour itself but how big are the units when they are not active like as the size of a standard "quality street tin", smaller or as large as a dinner plate though i think that depends on where you go as a dinner plate for someone could be a small side plate to another. then how thick is it or should that be high? then weight an also the control medal what size is that compared to. though considering how sho was able to pick it up it couldn't be that heavy in either manga and anime, also in the live action guyver movies. then again this is for the standard units the war and other type units what are made specifically for something are either the same size or maybe larger? so could someone say how big it is and compared to the special units.

so is the 10 kilotons of energy for the mega smasher, is that for both mega smasher cells or just one cell? the next question i have is how far does it really merge as i was looking at the 2nd chapter were sho calls the unit and it seems to wrap around the body. i can understand it does a lot to the body, but what interested me the most was the outer part like the plating and the tendrils that look like uncovered flesh that i assume acts like the enhanced muscles, how far is the merge with that part. as i am sure people remember how you have the cover of volume one showing part of sho's face under the armour, but if it does merge to such an extent that pulling off such would take the face off would't it? though i assume that they are just saying that sho is the one under the armour as those who have the armour don't have the abilities to retract part of the armour like the liquid symbiot in the marvel universe or how the guards in stargate move did with the helmets. i know this maybe a bit off topic but those weapon energy modules that one of the kavzar has what type of energy can it create like any type or nearly or is it limited as some types are to dangerous or damaging to the module. an idea i saw in a codex was a weapon called a gauss flayer that basically acted like a teleport devices but striped the target one molecula layer at a time and there was no destination point at all, what sort of power would be need or would what is used to create the energy for the mega smasher be enough to use it like a mega smasher. it's just an idea on what a guyver that had say one of those either replacing a weapon or a special weapon, though the same tech was also used in the hand combat weapons this in the guyver swords of such would make it able to do more damage in close or long range combat. it just a thought really on what sort of unit it would be and how it would effect the out come in large battles of against those powerful zoaforms out there.

then basically what i said about the cells converting the bio energy to what particle energy is, is about right or is there something else, that and it storing at the same time as it doesn't release the energy straight away when the plate is open unless it is made to charge before the plate is opened for it to be used.

well just an assumption but would they be drawing the bio-energy from the guyver and like photosynthesis does with light to food for the plant, or like those fish like electric eels and glow fish stores and transforms the energy into light or electricity. so the cells gather and change the energy into whats need to create the particle energy for the beam. well thats my idea of they draw energy out side the body like the boost dimension before releasing it though then the creators would have ha this weapon then, so it must be from the host/users own bio-energy.

well they did have energy attacks that Alkanphel has so i would assume that they had done some research which then means that they had some as you would need to test out your ideas before making the best and most powerful zoalord to lead and side stepping the human part just taking the parts that grant the nessary bit and such that made humans so special. though maybe on certain types and no a full range as you don't see Alkanphel using liquid attacks no do we.

so chronos had the info on much of the weapons the guyver had before they found the units as the way it is said that hyper team 5 i think it was called was the best of the hyper zoanoids before the guyvers came. so unless they were reprocessed to enhance what they already had or to add new abilities then chronos could have used what enhancement or improvements on the other hyper zoanoids and normal zoanoids? like i said in my first post wouldn't they have used the kinetic armour on some other types of zoanoids like another version of enzyne or Zerebubuth or lower class zoanoids to give them an increased survival rate when they battle the guyvers or in WG universe with they zoanoid killer tech and such? well it does say that the zoanoids of the creators bred with the humans thinning the bloodlines, why bring this up well that some of the simpler zoanoid forms i would think survived while the more advanced abilities didn't. just a weird thought really. though for some reason i just don't think there were any energy or long range type zoanoids made by the creators only hand to hand combat types and the zoalords handled that sort unless when the guyver 0 happened they were going to start that type of thing as they made the basic forms and can make the ranged weapons and energy weapons when needed?