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Compared to the rest of the movie that can be forgivable. On the opposite side of regeneration, the Bio Booster Creature was absorbed by Guyver 1's control medal within seconds, which also suggests that the bio-mass is re-converted into energy and then either replenished what he has lost during the chase or sent somewhere else. The energy requirements of the Guyver regeneration also explains why Warrior Guyvers and other HSL equipped Guyvers that their regeneration rate is higher than their power level woulds suggest. It is also possible that the Warrior Guyver's regeneration may be more consistent than a normal Guyver for example.

In the movies, the Guyver was never damaged to get a baseline. The complete regeneration from a control medal to Guyver is very similar to the manga/anime. So that is hard to get an accurate estimation. One theory is that regeneration varies on how active the Guyver is during the regeneration process or how much energy was or being used. For example, Guyver 1's fight with Enzyme 1 seemed to be at most a few minutes. But during his fight along side with Bio Freezer vs. the Enzyme 3s took much longer than this. Another example is the damage done to Guyver 3's mega smasher cell by Gaster was slowed down because of his severe energy exhaustion. Guyver 1's brain damage done by Enzyme 2 also seemed to be regenerating fairly fast too. My guess is limbs can be regenerating within several minutes. If we go for an easy 10 minutes than a WG would regenerate the same damage in 1 minute. However, Dreadnought would regenerate it in less than a second. But since he is bigger he would regenerate it in about a second or two. However this is when they are standing and doing nothing so the regeneration has the full energy of the system. Though during the Gigantic Dark's fight at Arizona where the shoulder power amp pod was cut in half was not regenerating. Though his leg was able to reattach itself fairly fast. So I think his does support the whole energy requirements of regeneration depends on how much energy is being used at the time. Unfortunately we have never seen any comparable damage done to a Gigantic that was later regenerating so we have no idea of how much faster it can regerate. Like I said before, a Gigantic is larger so it would have to regenerate a larger mass. Though both Guyver and Gigantic can instantly regenerate any damage done to the host or host Guyver. Guyver 1 deactivated his unit then reboosted which instantly regenerated any damage done to the unit. Gigantics do not transfer any damage done to it when used by another Guyver. This seems to be fairly consistent. My guess for a complete regeneration of a body is a emergency action done by the control medal. Perhaps by using all energy to regenerate it as fast as it can. Note too, that the movie Guyver is larger than the zoanoid he came out of as well as it was a matter of seconds after being swallowed.

Here is the other. I originally was going to go with the 8x increase, but I figured that would be too much. So make up a reason on your own. Present estimates of a standard Grakken's abilities have been compiled and summarized below. -Physical Strength: Average Unit Enhanced Subject's possesses the strength of 1,000 unarmored Grakkens with a max. of 1,200 unarmored Grakkens when using the Destroyer armor. Use of all four amors allow to nearly match a Enforcer Kavzar in physical strength. Unfortunately, our Destroyer armor has difficulty interfacing with the new unit and Gigantic Module combination. However, stamina appears to be about roughly equal to a normal Grakken unit type but with the use of the Destroyer armor allows near unlimited stamina within 10 miles of a Mothership. -Speed: Average Unit Enhanced Subjects has a top ground speed of 1,250 MPH and a top flight speed of 1,875 MPH. Using the back thrusters, ground speed is boosted to 1,500 MPH and flight speed to 3,750 MPH. Destroyer armor enhances ground speed to a max. of 2,250 MPH and flight speed to 6,000 MPH. Reflex speed appears to be 50 to 400 times that of a terran hosted Guyver unit. Use of the Destroyer armor boosts reflex speed to a max. of 480 times that of a terran hosted Guyver unit -Durability: Average Unit Enhanced Subjects' bio-armor is greatly superior to even a Commander class Kavzar. The bio-armor appears to be significantly thicker than normal allowing our warrior to withstand a large amount of damage without impairing their combat effectiveness which is estimated to be anything below a mega smasher class weapon. When damaged, these warriors have been shown to regenerate four times faster than a terran hosted Guyver unit. Use of the Destroyer armor, adds a body shield that can withstand a double mega smasher from a terran hosted Guyver. -Shields: The Gigantic Module upgrade gives a impressive and powerful shield not seen before in our army allowing our warriors to withstand nuclear scale weaponry. however the shield does seem to drain the warrior and it does take a few seconds to raise. -Infrared Laser Orbs: Our warriors have a total five infrared laser orbs located above the control medal. The main three are ten times more powerful than a terran hosted Guyver. The other two smaller orbs are twice as powerful as a terran hosted Guyver. Use of the Destroyer armor doubles the power of these weapons. -Gravity Control Orbs: Unit adds two additional gravity control orbs and increases the base power of the pressure cannon to ten times more powerful than a terran hosted Guyver unit. Use of the Destroyer armor increases the power of the pressure cannon by combining it with the armor’s plasma power system, enhancing the pressure cannons to a maximum of twelve times more powerful than a normal terran Guyver’s pressure cannon. -Giga Pressure Cannon: The Gigantic unit allows us to use all three gravity control orbs combined with the use of all of our four arms to create a single large powerful pressure cannon nearly equal to a terran Guyver’s double mega smasher or twice as powerful when using the Destroyer armor. -Hyper Swords: The unit enhances the base durability of the blades to twice their norm, allowing these elite warriors to slice through even Kavzar blades. The swords can be hyper extended for a range of 30 meters for a long range whip-like attack. The Destroyer armor adds another, forward facing, vibrational sword on their upper left arm. All swords are enhanced by shield to allow them to stand up to much more powerful sword types. -Gravity Knuckle: The unit adds a pair of back thrusters that allows these elite warriors to fire them for rocket like acceleration and then using their shield energy focused in their fists to create a powerful punch equal to a terran Guyver’s double mega smasher. The Destroyer armor adds an additional two back thrusters that enhances the acceleration and power, to approximate the power of this attack to one of our normal Grakken warrior’s four cell mega smasher blast. -Plasma Pulse Cannon: Destroyer armor adds a shoulder mounted plasma pulse cannon that fires concentrated plasma energy bolts approximately equal to the terran Warrior Guyver’s pressure cannon and can be fired rapidly for devastating results. -Sonic Busters: The unit’s sonic weapon emitters are augmented with the addition of two more sonic emitters increasing their power to ten times the power of a terran host Guyver's. The Destroyer armor augments to transmit sound blasts as plasma wave pulses, similar to the Aceaer unit, so weapon remains effective even in the vacuum of space. -Hyper Sensors: Addition of three additional hyper sensor orbs, combined with our five hyper sensor orbs, equal to 1,000 meters (~3,281 Feet). Use of the Destroyer armor enhances the hyper sensors with a HUD type system and increased range to 1,200 meters (~3,960 Feet). -Control Medal: The control medal is of an advanced and unknown design to a standard control medal. While not nearly as powerful or efficient to a Warrior Guyver pyramid shaped control medal, it does appear to handle overloads better. The Gigantic Module upgrade adds a third control medal layer to allow for the enhancements. -Giga Smashers: The Units upper two Mega Smashers have been immensely boosted by the Gravity Control Orbs to over 200 times that of a terran hosted Guyver unit. Use of these weapons greatly reduces the energy reserves of the unit. The bottom two mega smashers have not been similarly enhanced, however been boosted to four times the power of a terran hosted Guyver unit. These weapons can be used more readily than the upper giga smashers. Use of the Destroyer armor does not enhance the Giga Smashers but does reduce the drain of their use. it does enhance the lower mega smashers to five times the power of a terran hosted Guyver. -Additional Data: Units can also cloak themselves with a chameleon effect that lets them blend in with their environment. The Gigantic unit also allows these elite warriors to teleport at will through hyperspace.

Well it is obvious now that Warrior Guyver's gravity shield will not work on all the zoalords. Also, keep in mind that damage to the control medal of the Warrior Guyver can negate the auto teleportation. So all zoalords and other beings have to do is a get a lucky shot to the control medal.

That is true. But there are differences: 1. Jenny was in the military and got the Turbo unit. Obviously she was never captured by Chronos which begs the question, did Jason's parents still get killed? In WG universe, it was their death that made him really become outstanding to eventually become the Warrior Guyver. It is possible that they were still attacked and perhaps not on their wedding day but maybe their death along with Fiona's death caused it. 2. The Gen finished their Warrior Project, but yet Jason still became the Warrior Guyver. Why did they find this unit at all? 3. How or why did the Gen leave? In the rewrite, the Gen were responsible for many things in normal human life. Atlantis for example. Is it still around? How was human history affected by them without the destructive events of the Guyver Zoalord? Ships were left behind like the Utah, Arizona and Japanese Relics were left behind. 4. Chronos found the Battle unit where WG Chronos did not. 5. Also the universe has the Rapier Guyver where WG universe does not.

A week or two ago I got an idea of what a Gigantic Black Grakken would be. I seriously couldn't figure out how the Grakken could get ahold of a Gigantic, that I do not think a Gigantic would work on a already three layered Grakken control medal. So I figured, they used their technology to scan the Gigantic and since the Black unit has a normal control medal, it would work better. Though I do wonder how a Gigantic Grakken Destroyer would look like with eight hyper sensor orbs. There will be two versions. The first will be based off of the old 2x Gigantic Datafile and second will be based off of the new datafile. Unit Type: Gigantic enhanced Destroyer Advanced Guyver unit RACE : GRAKKEN Average Height : 534 cm (~21 Feet) Average Weight : 784 kg (~1,725 Pounds) Status : Elite Grakken Class Description : When we rescued the Lost Grakken in the Terran system, our forces have recovered an advanced Guyver unit known as a Black Guyver unit in the downed Clanship on the terran homeworld. The Clanship was reported to be extra-dimensional and contained the advanced units known to the Gen as Warrior units. Inside also possessed three units of unknown design and origin which we captured one of them. On a separate mission they were able to acquire detailed scans of the extremely powerful upgrade module known to the terrans as a Gigantic Module. Upon returning to the homeworld, our Queen had our own version of the Gigantic Module made from one of our own Gen vessels. Cloning the new unit and Gigantic module, our Queen formed a new Elite faction where we can finally engage even the vaunted Commander class Kavzar. Present estimates of a standard Grakken's abilities have been compiled and summarized below. -Physical Strength: Average Unit Enhanced Subject's possesses the strength of 400 unarmored Grakkens with a max. of 600 unarmored Grakkens when using the Destroyer armor. Use of all four amors allow to easily exceed a Commander Kavzar in physical strength. Unfortunately, our Destroyer armor has difficulty interfacing with the new unit and Gigantic Module combination. However, stamina appears to be about roughly equal to a normal Grakken unit type but with the use of the Destroyer armor allows near unlimited stamina within 10 miles of a Mothership. -Speed: Average Unit Enhanced Subjects has a top ground speed of 475 MPH and a top flight speed of 1,125 MPH. Using the back thrusters, ground speed is boosted to 600 MPH and flight speed to 2,250 MPH. Destroyer armor enhances ground speed to a max. of 750 MPH and flight speed to 4,500 MPH. Reflex speed appears to be 20 to 160 times that of a terran hosted Guyver unit. Use of the Destroyer armor boosts reflex speed to a max. of 240 times that of a terran hosted Guyver unit -Durability: Average Unit Enhanced Subjects' bio-armor is greatly superior to even a Commander class Kavzar. The bio-armor appears to be significantly thicker than normal allowing our warrior to withstand a large amount of damage without impairing their combat effectiveness which is estimated to be anything below a mega smasher class weapon. When damaged, these warriors have been shown to regenerate four times faster than a terran hosted Guyver unit. Use of the Destroyer armor, adds a body shield that can withstand a single hyper smasher from a terran Gigantic Guyver and regeneration is enhanced fivefold. -Shields: The Gigantic Module upgrade gives a impressive and powerful shield not seen before in our army allowing our warriors to withstand up to twice the power of a hyper smash from a terran hosted Gigantic Guyver. Use of the destroyer armor enhances the shields by 50% it's effectiveness. -Infrared Laser Orbs: Our warriors have a total five infrared laser orbs located above the control medal. The main three are four times more powerful than a terran hosted Guyver. The other two are half the power of the main three. Use of the Destroyer armor doubles the power of these weapons. -Gravity Control Orbs: Unit adds two additional gravity control orbs and increases the base power of the pressure cannon to four times more powerful than a terran hosted Guyver unit. Use of the Destroyer armor increases the power of the pressure cannon by combining it with the armor’s plasma power system, enhancing the pressure cannons to a maximum of six times more powerful than a normal terran Guyver’s pressure cannon. The Gigantic unit allows us to use all three gravity control orbs combined with the use of all of our four arms to create a single powerful pressure cannon nearly equal to a terran Guyver’s single mega smasher or twice as powerful when using the Destroyer armor. -Hyper Swords: The unit enhances the base durability of the blades to twice their norm, allowing these elite warriors to slice through even Kavzar blades. The swords can be hyper extended for a range of 30 meters for a long range whip-like attack. The Destroyer armor adds another, forward facing, vibrational sword on their upper left arm. All swords are enhanced by shield to allow them to stand up to much more powerful sword types. -Power Punch: The unit adds a pair of back thrusters that allows these elite warriors to fire them for rocket like acceleration and then using their shield energy focused in their fists to create a powerful punch equal to a terran Guyver’s double mega smasher. The Destroyer armor adds an additional two back thrusters that enhances the acceleration and power, to approximate the power of this attack to one of our normal Grakken warrior’s four cell mega smasher blast. -Plasma Pulse Cannon: Destroyer armor adds a shoulder mounted plasma pulse cannon that fires concentrated plasma energy bolts approximately equal to the terran Warrior Guyver’s pressure cannon and can be fired rapidly for devastating results. -Sonic Busters: The unit’s sonic weapon emitters are augmented with the addition of two more sonic emitters doubling their power to approximate the power of a terran Warrior Guyver type. The Destroyer armor augments to transmit sound blasts as plasma wave pulses, similar to the Aceaer unit, so weapon remains effective even in the vacuum of space. -Hyper Sensors: Addition of three additional hyper sensor orbs, combined with our four hyper sensor orbs, equal to 400 meters (~1312 Feet). Use of the Destroyer armor enhances the hyper sensors with a HUD type system and increased range to 600 meters (~1968 Feet). -Control Medal: The control medal is of an advanced and unknown design to a standard control medal. While not nearly as powerful or efficient to a Warrior Guyver pyramid shaped control medal, it does appear to handle overloads better. The Gigantic Module upgrade adds a third control medal layer to allow for the enhancements. -Hyper Smashers: The Units upper two Mega Smashers have been boosted by the Gravity Control Orbs to twice their level combined with the lower Mega Smashers, producing a four cell blast six times greater than a normal terran Guyver. Use of the Destroyer armor, enhances the power of all four Hyper Smasher cells to twice as powerful as a normal Grakken four mega smashers. -Additional Data: Units can also cloak themselves with a chameleon effect that lets them blend in with their environment. The Gigantic unit also allows these elite warriors to teleport at will through hyperspace.

I think it does too. Because like Sully said after Time War, the gloves come off. Chronos attacks with zoalords, captures Jason, Faye and Sean. Only the introduction of Warrior Guyver 2 and a second Gigantic does Chronos pause. But even, two Gigantics and two Warrior Guyvers are not enough to take on Chronos. Before it was because both Warrior Guyvers were capable of killing zoalords and the two Gigantics can match a zoalord. So I think perhaps maybe for Chronos this may be a bit of confusion combined with mass damage done to the Arizona base done by ACTF, WG and the healed Relic.

That will be an interesting story though. I take it, when you get around to doing story 0 this will be told?

Perhaps or maybe the scientist responsible for the Libertus had a hand in Aptom's as well. We won't be sure of what he meant until whatever chapter Aptom is shown again. It looks like next month's chapter will be the Gigantics Battle. Though it looks like both of them are using the Gravity Spike on each other. I wonder how that will turn out. It is interesting though their stance in their attacks. Gigantic Guyver is more or less flying like Superman whereas Gigantic dark is flying with his knee bent. Nice touch I think.

I don't think it will be smart for Chronos to but in between two Gigantics fighting each other.... Also i was thinking about the previous chapter. Aptom saying something about it being familiar to his own form. Maybe Libertus are copied from Aptom? Maybe not the whole eating zoanoids thing but maybe his genetic nature to allow for multiple abilities to be stable?

People have a tendency of equating power with strength and vica versa. The Power Amps may very will enhance physical strength to 20x or it may not. I highly doubt Takaya will give any specifics on the Exceed. I think (I hope) that will be his only appearence. There is a possibility I think that Sho or Agito may figure out how to go Exceed without going big. I do not think it is proportionally increased at least when it comes the size=power. Also a nice little indication of the power of the Exceed is how many zoanoids it took for the Dragonlord to be that big.

All of us know this already why it happened. It's like remastered Star Wars and thinking someone would be spoiled by the fact that Darth Vader is Luke's father. (Though spoiling that Darth Vader used to be a whiny emo wooden kid, will piss people off). Anyway, I was thinking about it, why not hold back the behind the scenes of Chronos until Revenge and then Alkanphel can do the big reveal. It's already there, and then have Alkanphel tell Jason that the ACTF never stood a chance because Chronos was intentionally holding back until Jason completed his destiny to kill Guyver Zoalord. You could have in Time War of various zoalords talking about why not wiping out the ACTF since they had only one Guyver etc.

The plot of both movies is good. The problem is the direction of the first movie, trying to be a serious but comedy (slap stick by the looks of it) sci fi movie. Eliminate the slap stick part, and the associated sound effects and then the movie becomes 100x better. One of my hopes is that in the future, I can re edit the movie with added special effects and different music/sound. It has already been done to like the original Star Trek by some fans. I remember before the remastered version came out there was a guy who was redoing all the special effects in one of the episodes. So the technology is out there, but I think all of us lack the skill.

It was always hinted in the old stories that Agito was defeated early on by Chronos. I may be getting the universes mixed up, but it was during the first intro of the stable proto zoalords against Zeus Thunderbolt. It's going to be far more interesting now with Warrior Guyver not being most powerful Guyver. From what I can gather is that Sully you made the Gigantic Guyver 800 men with all the official abilities right?

Well, we all knew the reason behind it. The old stories really didn't cover it beyond that Cori in WG2's universe got the unit. It would be interesting how Chronos got those units in that universe and why Cori got it in there too. Presumably she is more or less the same person in both universes, but with imminent destruction of the human race, why did Carter give it to Cori. The only explanation is that Cori is different. Maybe got recruited by the ACTF or FBI after Guyver 2 movie.

Keep in mind that the difference between the Exceed and the normal Gigantic is alittle more than a mere height increase. Basically height, width and depth are increased. Body massi much less than what it should have been. In fact it should be 6,987x. However many think energy level drain would be the same as a normal Gigantic. In other words if we assume the sheer size of the Exceed directly contributes to the power increase than it has to be more that 6,987x.

Well the simple explanation is that Alkanphel knows about Warrior Guyver going back in time to defeat the Guyver Zoalord. So until then, Alkanphel and Imakarum are taking it easy on ACTF until WG completes that paradox.

Look at Japan Legend or google it. No physical strength levels but some suggest between 500 to 2,000 men. The first is based off of the 5x main head laser, and the other is 20x enhancement from the Power Amps. The Giga Smashers are 100x. Durability is not mentioned but seems to be thicker as well. There are two to three additional sonic buster orbs that increase in power and range but power is not given. There is an example when Gigantic Dark fired at them At Imakarum and missed. It hit something that looked like the Effel Tower vaporizing it in half. The pressure cannon is not mentioned but the large pressure cannon fired by Gigantic Dark took out a huge chunk of a skyscraper. It's rather large taking out about 40 floors out of the skyscraper. Then you got the Exceed...

Yep. The story has to be changed in why she or how she got it. Cori isn't a soldier or a warrior of anything. She is a scientist. Why would she get one?

I have to look it up but I was a fan when Revenge Part 2 was the newest story. I guess though, you have to be thankful for what we have got so far. For awhile I didn't think the site would be updated anymore and be more of a shrine of what was. I am also reminded of what Matt has once said years ago. That many fans of the Guyver use this site to get most of their information and mistaken it for the real thing. That and using this site and the characters and doing a be-all-end-all character that can sneeze and destroy the moon type of thing. Instead of using the manga Guyver or even the anime or movies as a jumping off point, they use this site instead. For the most part I agree. So I can understand from that standpoint where it was tiring. So that could be one reason.

Ok I guess you didn't get what I meant. In order for him to mimic for example an HSL he would have create an HSL. So how would that work? Is an advanced hologram (which if that's possible that can lead to very powerful abilities)? Does it create from a universal part system that can configure itself to any situation? Does it replicate the HSL? I mean that is part of a system not something you can mimic. Like saying a zoalord can mimic a pressure cannon. Or a zoalord can mimic the power and look of a mega smasher. But going as far as having that zoalord have chest plates pop be grown and have mega smasher cells underneath?

Well all we know unless it has changed is that Prime is the first of what we know of as an Enforcer Kavzar and Krullnar's last success. It's reasonable to assume that other Gen have created successful or unsuccessful Kavzar versions of their own.

Well that is true that Kron will hate Uranus as well since he is part of Chronos, I just wonder if he had to choose, Gen or Uranus.

I never really thought about why did the ACTF sending their greatest assets thing. Hmmm... I guess maybe Carter figured it would only be a few hours or so.

It's called a degree here too. Better get that first. Writing fanfics don't pay the bills. I think alot of people forget how long ago this site has started. Pretty much everyone here was young and didn't have alot of responsibility back then. Now they're all grown up. I mean it's it's been what 13 or 14 years now?