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I didn't write it that clearly to start with I knew what I meant. I would have thought that to stay in contact with the Host, the activated parasite has to draw some sort of energy. Yes they have those marks on their backs that are supposed to be antenna but that doesn't have to be everything. Eh... I just think that if something is jumping dimensions, which the activated unit is capable of, then Aptom would have a hard time controlling or assimilating that. Now can someone remind me if the Boost Creature had any powers?
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That's exactly what happens but a pocket dimension even in subspace means you have to cross some sort of barriar, in that case the barriar between normal and sub space. I figure the parasite exists normally while without a host, and those things that wrap up the restrain it and the control medallion, then when it gets a host it can start jumping dimensions... All of which is fun and what not but not really related to if Aptom could control/gain guyver ability's from absorbing a boost creature or part of the armor.
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Given that it has to cross dimensional boundaries once 'activated' at some point is does have to go there. Now yeah I said 'comes from' the boost dimension when probably when not on a host it is in normal space as we see the Guyver Unit originally. But once on a host, it does seem to change a bit.
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Actually Ryuki it's on the Wiki. http://www.japan-legend.com/wiki/index.php?title=Guyver_biology Go my memory!... and the fanfic What I can't remember though is if the boost creature had any particular powers. If it didn't then I think we have to assume that the control medallion contains the instructions on either how to operate those powers, or how to form them correctly, or both.
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While I think having the creators return would be awesome, I'm sort of against it because while Takaya isn't that old he is prone to taking long breaks and I don't think i could handle waiting. He's also not that young either. I think with saying who's good and who's bad, you have to look at the morals of the day and the personal morals of yourself. Obviously by normal western standards taking over the democratically elected governments is bad, but it's sometimes been argued that a benign dictatorship is possibly the best form of government. Let's be honest here, a lot of our governments are on 3-4 year terms and they pick policies which make them popular now rather than those that might be better suited for the future. Being run by immortals, Cronos can take the long view, infact they have to take that view. Agito has definitely been an antagonist from the moment Sho got the Unit. Before that, he was indifferent to Sho. Cronos is by the very definition of antagonist the antagonists because they are 'against' the main character. So regardless of how good they are, no matter which Zoalord it is, since they are all under orders to bring in at the best, Fukamachi, they are all antagonists. Perhaps the better question would be as suggested, who is the amoral or 'evil' people in the series?
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It might be a figure issue so that you can't post your battle form Aptom figure, but the way it's drawn, at least in the picture Oberon has given us, it really does look like he'd have trouble. Thinking about anatomy, you could raise your arms, but you'd want to have pretty wide shoulders, so maybe that's how he gets around it, by not being able to rub his arms against his ears.
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I might be forgetting here but doesn't the Guyver actually come from the 'boost dimension' so technically it's not really of this world. Aptom might have just a smidge of trouble absorbing something that is not only non zoanoid, non human but also not part of this universe. Assuming I'm remembering correctly then the Guyver parasite has to be able to phase or jump dimensions which would mean some pretty nifty abilities in cells which just might be a bit too much for Aptom to absorb and is probably at least partially what the control medallion is for beyond normal power and absorption regulating.
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I think that's probably because the regular guys either come and go and so you use a different person each time or they get killed off in a lot of fics really fast. I should know, I killed plenty though it does depend on the situation in the fic. Most stories, fanfic or not are usually about the powerful guys. Or at least predominantly about those who are the 'important' people in their universe so even if they start off normal or ordinary, you know they probably won't remain that way and there's only a few I can think of where the main characters weren't those in charge.
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Even if the Gorosei wanted Akainu, the fact that they allowed the fight does not bode well for their continued control of the situation but I base that on the fact that I personally don’t think we’ve seen the last of Aokiji. Even if he does nothing or was inclined to do nothing, I think various factions would hunt him out – 1. Rebels to support them and/or 2. Blackbeard Pirates in their quest to capture and create the strongest devil fruit users. Those two factions rather easily spring to mind. I would really love to see what the other Yonkou think of Blackbeard though I know we won’t find that out for a while if ever since OP doesn’t really work like that. Sigh… now waiting waiting waiting for the next chapter.
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Ah but that's a part of it. I have browsed through several Cronos side fics and maybe it's just the ones I'm looking at, they all have a OC as the main character and the plot focus. If there are others, then please feel free to point them out. I don't pretend to have read everything. While the individuals of Cronos may be somewhat vague, especially if you only had the Anime and early Manga to go on, they are becoming more fleshed out now and I'm actually not saying you have to put an OC in, in fact, I'm hinting that that is not bad... but perhaps for some not as enjoyable as merely playing with the cannon characters and their situations. Perhaps I should clarify about OCs. Supporting OC's are usually essential. Often you have to make them up simply because the cannon doesn't have them. To take your example, the scientist, the nameless zoanoid grunts, the fic reader knows that they have to exist and so when Professor Sandaime of the Konoha Branch shows up, the reader accepts it and makes a few assumptions about the person - Professor = nerd, and in the case of Cronos = Zoanoid creator. So that's pretty easy. And depending on the fic other OCs are either implied or created by the plot - the bad guy in a lot of cases since often the manga/anime has killed off almost everything to leave us in dubious peace. So perhaps that's what I'm trying to get at, why play with the enemy - Cronos, who is militaristic, and will predictably respond to situations when going with the other side means, in my feeling, the potential for more creativity with responses to situations. Why try to humanise them when in the case of immortal zoalords, used to killing hundreds if not thousands with some decisions, it’s a very unlikely situation? We also tend to love the heroes, so why write the enemy?
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It does look good. Like you I'm hoping it can live up to the goodness. I saw an extended trailer for Battleship the other day and started crying. It looked so much better in the shorter one that I'm hoping that movies like Promethus remain good!
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I'm not trying to denigrate any fic here, and am genuinely asking about an answer but why Cronos? Why are so many Guyver fics based in Cronos? Which usually then requires the making of an OC. I make OC's all the time but they aren't usually the focus of the fic, but a lot of the Cronos based fics they seem to be. So really can someone explain to me what the attraction of writing Zoalord/Cronos stories is? Since I've been predominantly a Guyver side writer, I really am genuinely interested in the answer.
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Banana King, it's already been said that Aokiji left the marines. It was in the information that Jinbei gave them on Fisherman Island. He could have stayed but as Jinbei said, even Akainu is not completely without sympathy and it would have been a great disaster for the marines if he stayed. Aokiji was the appointed successor. Akainu took the position by force and in an organisation such as the marines, that is run by obeying superior officers Akainu was way out of line with his battle. I think the Gorosei and their Commander in Chief Kong will find that letting the position be taken by one willing to challenge for it will come back to bite them on the behind. There was also the line that the Government suffered a massive military loss with Aokiji leaving - that could refer to him alone leaving or that some of the marines also resigned. I'm guessing one or two did and even if they didn't both Sengoku and Garp retired which could also be a loss. While Aokiji does seem the type to sit back and relax, I don't think he's the type to slip completely into oblivion. If nothing else, he's the logia Ice Devil Fruit user and as such he'd be a target for Blackbeard and his crew. How do you draw the conclusion that Aokiji has no longer an interest in the world? So he lost a battle. If he really is an advocate of moral justice then he won't be the type of man to sit back and allow absolute justice to stomp over everything. He might wait a bit but I think we will see him still in the future. I am interested though in what makes you say your opening sentence.
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You are quite correct, I don't think Crocy-boy will be serving Flamingo, but he does probably owe a favour. And given that the favour was potentially bought with the fact that he wasn't killed, I think the favour might be pretty big. Or nothing could come of it. I guess it all depends on how Oda wants to progress. On Blackbeard, if you recall Laffitte, I think it was, went to that meeting of the Marines and Shichibukai in order to suggest Blackbeard as a candidate. This is during the Jaya Arc. While at the time they had only lost Crocodile, the fact that they were effectively losing Gekko I think made the Gorosei much more desperate to take someone of strength. (This is only my belief but I think even then the Gorosei but not necessarily the Marines were beginning to look at replacing Gekko.) During this time though, Blackbeard was hunting Luffy to bring him in to claim the Shichibukai title. He took Ace because Ace was available. With the effective fall of Gekko, even if they left him in place, I think both the Marines and the Gorosei were desperate for the strong replacement Blackbeard presented himself as. If they had not been so desperate, I think they would have questioned a bit more closely why such a pirate so desperately wanted the position. It's a position of some power but it's not really a position of honour and while I admit most pirates don't necessarily want to be honoured, it can't be an easy thing to fill Shichibukai positions. Hence my insistence on the desperation. It does kind of make me think though what sort of recrimination went on after Blackbeard raided Impel Down. There has to be at least some 'I told you so's' going on. One thing I really want to know though, that hasn't been shown is where is Aokiji? We know he resigned after losing but where did he go? The Rebels? Possible but I'm thinking it's a bit unlikely. Some quiet island? I don't think so. Jinbei seemed to have a small inkling but he didn't say.
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I think we may have to disagree Banana King though we aren't actually disagreeing on much. I do believe the Gorosei were desperate when the made Blackbeard a Shichibukai. He had the power and he appeared willing but if they looked at him more closely they really should have wondered why he spent 20 years as a Whitebeard before breaking out on his own. And he only brought in one pirate. Sure Ace is important and that gave the Marines the chance to capture Whitebeard but Ace is still only one pirate and Teach did betray someone he had apparently served for 20 years or so... To me that sets off alarm bells and says you have to be desperate to put him in a public position of power. The Shichibukai only have their official standing, they don't serve directly in government but they are public figures and this raised Teach's profile quite a lot. Additionally, while the Shichibukai members may not have changed much, I just don't want to get it set in stone mentally that for example Hancock is one now when there is a chance she isn't. There is after all plenty of proof of her actions. At Marineford a lot of Marines saw her. At Shabody (spelling?) she directly sailed in front of the Marines which is probably enough proof to say she is still a Shichibukai as they didn't fire on her.Thing is, until someone says it, for the new World it's probably not a great idea to be stuck in stone. The Marines have changed, and we know that, why not the Shichibukai? DonFlamingo and Crocodile, I will not be surprised if Crocy-boy now owes the Flamingo a favour.
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Heroic Age is beautiful. Just finished Witch Hunter Robin and currently am watching: Mouretsu Uchuu Kaizoku (Bodacious Space Pirates) Wagnaria Fushigi Yuugi (again I KNOW) Denou Coil Ouran Host Club One Piece (ALWAYS!) Will probably replace Witch Hunter Robin with either Ergo Proxy or Monster. I know they are older but meh sometimes it's nice to look back. -
I disagree Banana King. I think the Gorosei were very desperate for a new Shichibukai when they accepted Teach. They had just lost Crocodile, and Gekko (they were probably going to take him out eventually) and that was a challenge to the power of one of the three powers of the world - Yonkou, Shichibukai and Marines. If we look at it logically we've yet to see Mihawk doing much Shichibukai things really. Okay so he cut through Don Kreig's fleet and may destroy others but the Marines were very surprised when he showed up at the meeting that time. Don Flamingo and Kuma have seemed to be the more Government oriented or controlled Shichibukai. Law appears to have taken up a position like that too now. So if we go through the list of effective Shichibukai I think it's kind of limited and they had to get someone in there who was feared and fairly capable at the time that they accepted Teach. Jinbei - no Mihawk - maybe Crocodile - Only in Alabasta Kuma - probably not Gekko - no Hancock - no Don Flamingo - maybe As a force for deterrent, it seemed a bit haphazard. With Don Flamingo he passed on his assets to those bearing the smilies but from my reading (which I may have missed something) he was then not interested. They got their butts kicked at Jaya after all and at the Human Auction House Don Flamingo was very uninterested in their problems. It's like he moved on to new better and funner things. On the current Shichibukai, do we know that Hancock is still a Shichibukai? I mean chances are that she is but I don't see the Gorosei being too happy with her actions and not all of them are going to be charmed by beauty. Did Jinbei give us a list of Shichibukai? I don't think he did but I might have missed that so I'm not sure that we know even 5 of the current Shichibukai at this stage. I think Mihawk is probably still one, same with Don Flamingo. Kuma is a maybe since he might now just be PX-0 and not a Shichibukai. Hancock, probably but not definitely. and we now know Law is a Shichibukai. That leaves anything from between two more to four more in question. I do agree that Law probably didn't kill his crew but I don't necessarily think they are on the island.
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Luffy won't join anyone because if he does then he can't be free, which was the entire reason he wanted to be the Pirate King. Not to rule, not to anything else but because he believes that the Pirate King is the freest man on the water. VERY glad, though it occurred to me that Coribou is the Buggy for the New World. Buggy wasn't really that dangerous but he could be cunning and sneaky and he could pack a punch when he got people off guard but he was more an annoyance than a serious threat. Coribou struck me as being similar but powered up a bit via the logia fruit for the New World. Dittos. Almost had a heart attack turning the page to read Law on the Island being addressed as a Shichibukai! I don't care about the Samurai to be honest. Though I do want to see Zoro fight him merely to continue to prove that Zoro kicks ass! On the Shichibukai, it hasn't really been said what happens to their crews in most cases. Obviously Gekko Moria kept his but he wasn't really going close to the Government. Crocodile probably ditched his. Don Flamingo definitely ditched his... or rather passed on his assets. Mihawk I don't think had a crew. Jinbei was between crews (I think) and Kuma I don't see as being in a crew much. The obvious exception with a recognisable crew is Boa Hancock but she took the position to protect her Island so again doesn't deal much with the Government. Those that do deal with the Government seem to be alone more often than not. The position is for A Shichibukai, not for a Captain and his crew though when they took in Teach I think they were desparate. So while I don't know if Law would sacrifice the others, I think he'd think about it if offered what seems to be unlimited opportunity to experiment in a medical field. Most of these people aren't pirates because they are nice people. They are pirates because they don't want to be limited by the rules - though I think Vegapunk is probably given enough license that he isn't contained by rules either. Anyway all that really says is that I can go either way on Law killing his own crew if he thought it would get him ahead. If he did, I'd be really interested to know why though.