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Ryuki, why not just call it "Theoretical Discussion Forum"? Or better yet, "Idea Lab" since we don't always stick to just Guyver topics? You've basically talked bone strength, which is linked to bone density since bone is structured as a load bearing structure and the greater the density of these load bearing structures, the more they support the structure. Medical ones, Wolff's law and other more recently discovered mechanisms, you think engineers have a monopoly on understanding how things work? Or do you think the trend of the last decade of adopting natural designs from nature is just a fluke? That millions of years of evolution doesn't means nature knows things about designing that we have yet to figure out? If you listen in on what real scientists are entertaining, many of their ideas are equally as wild as those presented here and in many cases are based on what those real scientist have suggested as possibilities. Quite simple, the bone mineral density is less for osteoporotic bones and the microarchitecture is also disrupted. Which means the bones are both have less to work with and the load bearing structure is no longer properly layed out to spread the strain making fractures even more likely. But this only proves my point. Besides it appears you are still missing the point that surface area includes the entire structure and support structure varies throughout the body, as can be noted by the Bone Mineral Content index and bone shape which helps determine how flexible each part is and how it reacts to strain and impacts. The key mechanism however is on the cellular level as the way the bone minerals are layed out is in a way that can be described as a spongy like interconnecting web that snaps under strain to absorb impacts. Of course there are 2 types of bones that work in tandem to fill in the damage and restrengthen the bones over time but its the final result that we are discussing. Which is why bone can withstand a strong impact once but snap when hit again with the same force before the bone has had time to recover. Perhaps you are being confused by the term surface area but we are the sum of our parts and every part of us has surface area, all the way down to individual molecules and atoms. When dealing with how the body handles stress and noting that the stress is effected by surface area to volume ratio then the whole body has to be considered and not just some aspect of it. Increasing bone density allows for more of these structures to occupy the same overall volume and thus make the bones stronger, which is why it is possible to make your bones stronger than normal by simply inducing continuous stress upon them that over time makes them denser and stronger. Physical Review Letters, among other well respected physics journals where scientists present research for peer review, as real scientist perfect better methods of measuring and testing theories it is becoming less a question of if the constants have changed but rather a question of why. Just do a search on changing constants and quite a few of them turn up. Along with links to various versions of inflation theory and brane theory. Again, irrevelant, you aren't considering the effect on the function of the Exceed. You only seem to care whether the Exceed would collapse on itself upon the first step. This is a living being, not a machine! It needs to function as well as exist. Sorry, physical dexterity is one of those meaning that have been expanded recently to also include how a body handles strain/damage and is now often used in place of durability in living things. I don't, if you bothered reading all the previous posts you'd note I have my own theory. But at least they acknowledged that the problem can't be solved so simply as just having the Gigantic be tough enough. Since the moment you assumed that the Gigantic was simply being tough enough to grow into Exceed and seriously considered that as an answer despite all the things that goes against it. Again the Exceed is a living being, unless you consider all the factors that effect a living being then you aren't testing your theorem. And without testing it then you can't use it to compare to the other theories and say they aren't needed and shouldn't have even been considered. I'm not assuming, you are clearly stating your stance and that stance can only be made by ignoring the complete list of factors. The Exceed is a living being, since you aren't considering how the extra mass would be effecting the functions of the Exceed in your argument shows you aren't considering all of the Newtonian physics like momentum, which was one of the things I listed in my last post. Really, simple physical considerations like inertia that would defy the ability of the Exceed to keep its abilities proportional! Remember, any theory that explains the Exceed has to also explain how the abilities also remained proportional. How many times do I have to point that out though? The Exceed is Proportional in powers/abilities. Being able to take the strain does not make you proportional when physics clearly shows the volume goes way up compared to the surface area. I again point to the example of putting you under 10 times normal gravity and expecting you could move like you would under normal gravity. Answer is you can't! Even if you had the strength and durability to take 10 times normal gravity you would have to handle vastly increased strain that would inhibit you from functioning as you would under normal gravity. So, if your theory can't explain this then it fails period. It doesn't matter what the Gigantic's physical limits are, they couldn't stay proportional without something effecting how they work. Sorry, if I'm confusing you but like I said I don't agree with all the theories. You are free to point out all the problems with any of the theories. But first you have to understand the need for those theories since you started this discussion out by dismissing the need for them when conventional explanations don't suffice, yet you've insisted that they could when we are dealing with a concept that is clearly not conventional.

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I apologize if this response is out of line Ryuki but I believe this has gone on long enough and is not helpful in pushing this discussion forward... Sorry but if you want me to be frank, since you're obviously refusing to be led to the answer, then the conventional explanation didn't have a leg to stand on from the beginning. Bone density of the Gigantic is irrevelant, dexterity alone would never explain the Exceed. I commend your knowledge of physics (except for your dismissal of density producing increased physical strength when it clearly does so, especially for load bearing structures like bone and your dismissal of changing constants when mainstream scientist are taking the possibility seriously with mounting evidence supporting it) but first and foremost you are forgetting the Exceed has a Proportional Increase in powers/abilities, this is in direct conflict with the effects of a greatly increased ratio disparity between surface area and volume of the body. No amount of dexterity would explain how this could be possible. Really... Nerve impulses would have far greater distances to follow, just to feel (let alone the brain function)... The surface area to volume disparity also means far more body heat would be retained as it would be harder to effeciently radiate the heat away from the body as well as having to travel greater distance from within the body... The blood would have to be pumped at far greater pressure and that increased pressure would effect the funtions of the cells like how the pressure at the bottom of the ocean effects like to the point that even enzymes stop working (Unless you want to forget that we're talking about a living being)... Far more oxygen would be needed to support the larger body and the oxygen would have to travel further through the bloodstream to get to where it is needed... The vastly greater mass of the Exceed would require proportionally far greater energy to move than the Gigantic... Even with enough energy it would take longer to accelerate and decellerate... Even if the Gigantic has a body capable of withstanding the strain of being scaled up to 52 meters we do know the Gigantic's approximate strength level can not be greater than 20x the Guyver's and this is not enough to explain how the Exceed can still move normally (one of the reasons I used how it would feel to you to suddenly be under 10 times normal gravity)... Having enough dexterity to support the Exceed does not go to the point that the Dexterity also becomes proportional since the Exceed withstood attacks that would have required the Gigantic to raise a barrier shield to protect against, like withstanding a Purgatorium with just the palm of his hand or multiple Bio-Missiles capable of taking out entire city blocks and amplified by blowing up inside the barrier shield... Among many other factors you should have considered... Really the conventional answer you are defending only works if you ignore pretty much everything and just view the Exceed like a really big statue or at best a robot with few internal moving parts. Only then would it make sense that just super dexterity and energy can explain everything but this over simplifies the vast complexity of a living being and what it would have to go through in order to function properly at a vastly scaled up size, let alone have those functions remain Proportional! The basic Newtonian physics alone should have had you questioning that assumption... Now I don't agree with all the theories thrown around trying to explain it, but at least they are trying to explain it... I think that while trying to maintain scientific reasoning you forgot the part about practicality. Theorems aren't only tested for their logic but also their practicality and whether they fit all possible variables. So a theorem may work but may still not be practical or fit all variable and this is where your conventional answer falls into. Explaining only how the Exceed could exist but not how it could function.

Simplier answer, the basic premise for most of these theories is to make the surface area to volume ratio the same for the Exceed as it is for the Gigantic. The actual strength of the Gigantic's physical form is not an issue because the Data File has stated the Exceed has a proportional increase in ability, this is why that part was never discussed. So there is no compensation going on within the limits of the orignal structure but an actual scaling that wouldn't be possible for any normal structure but clearly occurs for the Exceed. It's just normal physics of a 3D object has the volume increase at a faster rate than the surface area. So the Exceed has to deal with far more volume versus surface area than the Gigantic does, but by either manipulating the physical constants or somehow enhancing the surface area an object has to work with could in theory explain how the Exceed can be as large as it is and still work with the same density as its original Gigantic form, while at the same time providing a proportional increase in powers/abilities that the surface area to volume disparity would have normally reduced instead of keeping proportional. In all the theories the energy the Gigantic siphons is the source for the change but how it is applied to pull off this manipulation is the part we are still debating. Does that clear it up for you?

Incorrect, increasing mass does increase weight but it also increases surface area and the more surface area you have means the more you can spread the strain. Which increases density! It's like cement, how do you make it stronger? You increase the surface area and you do that by making it denser. A good examples are human bones, pro-athletes can increase bone density by up to 6 times. Meaning they can withstand impacts that would shatter normal bones. You ever see a guy slam his forearm through a pile of bricks or whatever and you're looking at upwards of over 2 tons of force on impact. The athlete doesn't have to have to make his body six times heavier to make this possible, since the density increase also increases the surface area and thus compensates for the normal volume disparity. Problem is Titanium is a different material, with different proporties. Like While Titanium has about 1/2 the density of steel Aluminum has about 1/3 and you couldn't build buildings as large with Aluminum as you could steel. Or like comparing coal to diamonds, both are carbon based but the diamond is clearly harder but it also inflexible and could never function in that state in a biological system. The Exceed is a living being and for it to function the same the body still has to work, which means you can't really change that much in its molecular structure and still have it all work together. But regardless like my ant example needing diamond like joints to support its weight, you'll have to go even denser for something the size and mass of the Exceed. This is why structure is so important in building design, you can't just take a material and make something as big as you want. Each material has its own density and strength values and all of it has to work together to make the structure work. Yes they are, the denser a material the stronger it gets because the surface area is being increased for a given area. Yes, weight distributed throughout the ENTIRE length of the building, which buildings are designed to do. But we build structures with up to 100 times redundancy. The human body is more like 2.5, the Guyver and the Gigantic may substantially increase this but they both are still shown getting damaged with forces less than what the Exceed has to withstand just to support its body while standing.

I guess you haven't considered the surface area versus volume disparity then? The Exceed has roughly the same density as the Gigantic but the ratio between the Surface Area (Support Structure) and Volume (Weight) is far greater than the Gigantic if you only have about the same density. More atoms means more mass, with vastly greater volume to surface area means the same density (surface area) has to withstand a disproportional increase in volume (weight). The theories are all to explain how the Exceed pulls that off without having to increase density (surface area) to compensate for the disparity with the volume.

And what do you think happens when you increase surface area by a given amount and at the same time the volume increase many times more than the surface area increase? Like suddenly finding yourself under 10 times normal Gravity, while the Exceed has to withstand far more. I'm sure you may have considered it but it sounds like you dismissed it simply because of the power increase of Exceed. The problem is we are trying to figure out how the Exceed pulls it off. Simple, we never said the Exceed was light compared to the Gigantic, at least that was never the intent. The Exceed is only light for a being of that size because a being that size would have to have far greater density to support itself. The comparison was to what beings of that size would have to weigh, not to the original size. As Ryuki himself pointed out he already pointed out the ratio is roughly equivalent to the Gigantic, the same point you are trying to make, but this only illustrates the lack of a density increase and ignores the enormous increase in strain the Exceed body still has to deal with. The basic point is that since volume increase faster than surface area as you increase size then that means the surface area supporting that weight has to increasing support more weight per area. Without a density increase to compensate for that increasing strain means the surface area will eventually be overwhelmed by the volume mass and the structure will collapse under its own weight. This is the simple physics of the problem presented by the Exceed. Take the heels of the Gigantic, with the weight increased (as you stated over 5000 times) the surface area of the heels did not increase by the same amount, so far more weight is then focused onto that area. Thus the majority of the discussion in this topic was on not only pointing this problem out but thinking of ways on how the Exceed could use all that energy to not only compensate for the increased strain but also produce a proportional increase on top of that as well. We all agree the energy has something to do with it but this doesn't answer how by itself? Which is why so much discussion has gone into how the energy could be applied to explain the Exceed. After all just putting energy into a body just heats it and increased volume with not as much increase in surface area means it becomes increasingly harder to radiate the heat, as well as tend to slow the metabolism down. Basically this breaks down to that with the Exceed's level of power that he should have a miniature sun in his chest and that doesn't really help with supporting all that mass. See the problem? The energy has to be applied in some way and the physics of the body adapted for in order for the Exceed to not only function the same as the Gigantic but also to give it a proportional increase in power.

It's the difference between 2D math and 3D math, the volume to surface area ratio increases geometrically for every doubling of size. Apply general physics that all structures must follow in order to support their mass, dexterity, etc. and it becomes mind numbingly apparent that you can't keep the same density if you radically increase your size and volume because of the ratio increase to volume becomes so much more than the surface area. It would be like putting you under 10 times normal gravity and expecting you to be able to support your weight as well as you did at 1 G. Like you can make a deck of playing cards and construct a small structure, increase the size however by several fold and the same material will no longer be able to support its own weight at the same density. Also physical design structures that work at one size may not work at much larger sizes. A ant enlarged to the size of a car for example would need joints as tough as diamonds just to support its weight because of the way the legs are set to the sides puts much more of the weight load onto the joints than our leg design, which places our legs directly under us to more efficiently spread the weight load along the length of our legs. The only reason an ant can lift many times its own weight is because at its normal size the surface area to volume ratio is such that the surface area gets a boost, their volume is so low compared to ours. If we were ant size, however, we too would be able to lift many times our own weight. It's just like architecture, take the same rules for building massive buildings and it quickly becomes apparent that the Exceed doesn't follow the normal rules by keeping the same density as its normal size. Thus it is light for its size, especially considering the proportional increases to its abilities as well which would also normally require an increase in density. For example the armor, same density spread over a much larger area means it becomes easier to penetrate rather than harder. It would be the equivalent of the Gigantic being made up of Styrofoam and still being as powerful as normal for comparison. So basically the Exceed is getting a massive size and power increase without the normal consequence of density increase that would normally come along with it.

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Well that's pretty much a given considering it is another dimension from our own, even if it coexists with the rest of our universe... Basically, yes, the Guyver doesn't need to eat and can regenerate from just a few cells. The energy for all that has to come from somewhere and we know the Guyver uses the Gravity Control Orb to siphon energy from the Boost Dimension. We however don't really have this technology yet, basically it's a lot easier to destroy than create. But we are developing the technology to someday do so. Star Trek style replicators are one vision of what that technology may eventually look like. In the meantime we are slowly learning how to assemble single atoms and from there we will learn how to make larger objects until we can re-create anything we want. It's just going to take a long while before we have the technology and power to do so. A plasma propulsion system is basically a kind of Ion thruster which uses plasma in some or all parts of the thrust generation process. But just like a conventional rocket the fuel is internal, plasma rockets are just far more energy efficient and can provide variable thrust. Though generally less powerful than conventional rockets, at least with all present real life versions, they allow the same amount of fuel to last far longer. So with a plasma rocket it is possible to continuously accelerated to you destination, like Mars and use the thrust to generate artificial gravity with the constant acceleration. Fusion Rockets are literally a Fusion version of a Plasma Rocket and of course provide an incredible amount of potential thrust, it is unknown whether the Gigantic's propulsion is the Fusion variety but it would explain the level of thrust it demonstrates.

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