V Guyver

Yeah, like Ryuki says, human memory pretty much functions as quickly assembled jumble puzzle. It's not always accurate despite how vivid. In the case of the CM, I don't think it stores much other than the blueprints to human Chemicals of DNA and Memory. At least not until much later did we have Sho actively have a sort of focus on his friends, but that was thanks to the Relic CM apparently following his will and why he managed to hear Mizuki half way around the world. Otherwise, I feel that Sho in the past had been simply more receptive to his friends (because he wakes up when they scream, even when not in the Guyver but still technically KO'd) and the Guyver Unit just amplifies it because of proximity and sound.

I did notice that one of the biggest fears in Russia is to become weak. They love glory and prestige of strength as much as Americans, if not more. After the fall of the USSR there was a feeling that Russia had lost it's importance and would keep falling apart into smaller countries. So in them ind of Russians, Putin is the ideal leader, the guy who can preserve strength and gain more, to preserve territories and gain more. I see some similarities with the conservative right in the US, they want the USA to have a more dominant near imperial aspect to foreign policy at times.

Nah, he missed. Though it looked like Sho was going to be caught, but being the arrogant guy Liskar is, he let him go to demonstrate his power. After all, he had orders to secure the unit intact and alive himself.

Memory is chemical based, all it had to do is memorize all the chemicals. If it can do DNA, it can do chemical memory.

I think he could have persisted for a while, but that one single flaw really left him vulnerable. Later down the line, he would of eventually of met his end.

I would of kept Mercer as the star of Prototype too, and set up the plot to his eventually downfall into a true villain. That would of set the stage for Heller, made it more likable. His reasons for hating humanity was also pretty stupid in how he turned evil. Okay, so he traveled the world, met two con artists who back stabbed him, and suddenly he hates everyone? What, he couldn't be motivated by something more natural, like witnessing genocide? That's how I would of set it up. But considering the confines we are now stuck with, I would instead have Heller start to slowly suffer mental breakdown as a Mercer slowly starts to eat away at his mind, eventually taking over Hellers body from the inside out and attacking the facility that housed the top secret prisoner that was born from the Black Light Virus, Heller Mercer tries to absorb him, only for it to backfire. Heller and Mercer are both separated and weakened. The True host of the Black Light Virus had reversed and absorbed much of their combined ability and escapes, setting up the plot for a 4th game, making Mercer and Heller Playable in the sequel, with them both trying to take down the virus with a good or bad ending depending on who play as. Also, would make it the first game with a two player online co-op.

Certainly weird. They might be a species that doesn't follow the passage of time, and I think it's possible they are in a civil war, which is why they could afford the time to do this.. Also, they built life from scratch and terraformed the earth, that alone must of been lengthy processes. Seems they never did this before, and so having to slowly guide life to build it up was a hard process. They don't seem to do genetic manipulation, judging from the length of time, it seems they prefer using traditional breeding skills. Must point out, while we have DNA that we can study and manipulate, they had nothing in the start. All DNA, or genetic variables, genetic strengths and weaknesses were made from scratch and manipulated by them. That seems to be the biggest problem they faced. The second issue is they abandoned several potential creatures and started the process over several times. Look at the T-Rex, looks like a good instrument of war, but wasn't as flexible or smart as they wanted.

The sandworm? XD

Thanks Yuki. Hmm, seems there is much data past on who created her. No real depth to how she functions. No mention of two Zoacrystals at that.

For intent and purposes, Alky is more of a Demigod, the creators are the Gods. It's even been stated by Alky in the english dub (though not the japanese one) "Let me give you one word of advice Richard; Don't anger a Demigod"

It hasn't established if that is the actual case. For all we know, he can survive without food to begin with. What is known is that for him to continuously use his powers, he eventually has to absorb some Zoanoids, especially after coming in contact with the Aptom Virus.

Also, out of all of the Zoalords, Barcus is the only one that is actually loyal to him if you don't count the bizarre situation with Imakirum. Those that haven't rebelled are loyal to Barcus. Don't you find that ironic? Technically Barcus was supposed to recruit Zoalords for Archanfel, and he technically fulfilled it, while failing at it. Barcus pretty much lives up to his namesake, create tactician, lousy long term strategist.

He wanted power all else, above all others. Namely to get the Guyver Unit equipped so he could be the undisputed ruler in the world, maybe the Galaxy. He never claimed he wanted to kill any of the other Zoalords, had he joined the Guyver he might of killed Alky (Even then he might of tried to make Alky submit instead) The reason he fought Alky goes on for two reasons, one his life wasn't guaranteed to be spared, the other reason is that he's gotten this close already. If he gave up now instead of fighting, he'd possibly die anyways, or if he submitted and lived, he'd never get another chance again. All the Zoalords would be suspicious of him, he'd be constantly scrutinized, and be under constant watch. To top it all off, he might face more competent competition from the others to gain a Guyver Unit. Or most importantly of all, if He gave up that remove, Archanfel may of equiped the Guyver Unit, and that would be it, the end, no way would he ever surpass that being... Other factors, are in Richard's ignorance. He had no idea Alky was this powerful, he heard rumors, and dismissed them as he was more or less arrogant with power. This caused him to underestimate every one of his enemies and allies alike. Barcus figured him out, Alky discovered him, the other Zoalords were about to take action while Richard thought they weren't near, and most of all the Guyver and Proto-Zoalord. Each and every time he thought he could win. Richard really didn't go far enough except with that one attack against Alky, which was going too far... he knows no moderation. I am also curious about the Zoalord Selection. I mean, it seems to be pretty stupid. I think it followed as such when talking to Alky. Barcus: Oh master Archanfel. I have a wonderful selection for you. I hope you like my list, though I do look and dress like Santa Claus, I don't know who's naughty or nice. Ah Richard, so ambitious, bad haircut though. I'm sure you'd get along nicely since he says he like power. Li Yentsui, how can I refuse an asian pretty boy!? He might be good at jumping around. Waferdonus, he's a big plant, err forest people. Aa long lost brother to you my lord! Hmm... also, that lovely shiny sheen beard he has... I'm jealous. Kahn, very organization of world conquest needs at least, abnormal warrior, as you can see I chose an old Dwarf. Carleon, he likes shiny colorful objects, and loves fashion. The perfect man for guard duty. Galenos, Don't know why I picked him, but something about him makes me want to label him a Zoalord. Shin, he had perfect aim shooting things from afar. I think we can turn him unto a super sniper. Purgstahl, admittingly, I saw him get beat up by ruffians, but he really seems to know a lot about lighting. The other two, couldn't pronounce their names, but I want to prove to the you that we can trust minorities my lord Archanfel.

Do we have an official Bio on here for reference? Just to help clear things up a little. I imagine that if it is the case with two crystals, they probably serve to help with what the first one can't handle. Maybe it helps lower some of the problems in dummy crystals by having two.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you there. That's totally possible and makes sense, preprogrammed aptom missiles. XD. But remember how evil Aptom immediately kept destroying dismembered Aptom cells? He did that to prevent Aptom's conscious from surfacing, there is still that small possibility that Aptom might have some degree of satience even when not in a specific form. The issue with energy, Aptom has a far smaller reserve than Zoalords. He has to eventually eat Zoanoids to make up for that fact, especially in battle. Even if Chronos did create some powerful Hypers or Lost numbers, it's very unlikely they would even come close to a True Zoalord. But given the right circumstances, Aptom might eventually start to catch up. Currently he's only a bit more powerful than a Basic Guyver, and a Proto-Zoalord. Still, he can be killed and beaten by a Regular Guyver if he slips up, unlike True Zoalords who clearly are superior to anything below their class. If Aptom were to reach near Zoalord levels, he'd need to get some Zoanoids who have massive energy reserves that dwarf Elegan, a body that can handle enough damage and stress compared to a Zoalord, and energy field projection. Even then he'd still lack proper telepathy (he only has gasters telepathic missiles) and issues with recharging. The one advantage he has against Zoalords is his regeneration and ability to survive as small inkling of flesh and possibly escape if things go wrong, oh yeah, and the possibility he can clone himself to help even the odds. I wonder why he hasn't tried doing that more often. He split himself up by accident the first time because Alky decided to combust him from the inside out, while the second time he willingly did so to scare the crap out of Sho (When he masqueraded as Team 5 and Imakirum)

You're right, I hope I haven't offended anyone here on the board. For all intents and purposes, I could be entirely wrong. But I will stand by my comments until proven wrong. I think it fair enough. Maybe comparing to Hitler is a bit harsh on my end, though I'm not comparing it on a homicidal maniac aspect, but rather political.

They've had a few Zoanoids with Symbiosis-like qualities. So who know? Yeah, Aptom is totally like the thing, was watching that a month ago, and felt like Aptom is that to the Chronos mooks. I think Aptom invades bodies in a hyperactive cellular level. We don't know how many organ's or lack of them he can function with, but we've seen him as nothing more than telepathically guided liquid filled missile and I doubt you could fill a brain in those. The other possibility is that Aptom can now shrink his organ's down, which is entirely possible considering his scope of abilities.

Oh I have no doubt that there are interests in Ukraine and other countries. The US has been clearly intrusive and controlling over the years, but it's not the case in the Ukraine, maybe in Iraq and Afghanistan, yes. But certainly not in the Ukraine. I know we have a bought congress and a skewed media, but everything I've ever studied about makes Russia seem far more problematic in this crises. Like I pointed out before, this is all feeling too much like Land Grabs made by Imperial US, Nazi germany, and Napoleon's France. The parallels are scary. I also have to note just how little support Russia has over this issue, literally, most of the international community is against it, even those with with scarcely any ties to the US and West... that's got to be an indication of something. With the media case, the US seems to be treating the Ukraine as an unwanted messy problem, Russian Media is on on the other hand, full media blitz of patriotism. There is also a big clear difference as to what is wrong with this situation. Since we don't live in Russia, we can't exactly say with true objection which of our media is more bought out and propaganda filled than the other. They are both obviously messed up to some degree, but we have a nice advantage in the US of being able to get our source from multiple news feeds. I personally prefer BBC over anything US, but at the same time I've had no problem viewing news articles from other countries when I want to cross reference this topic. I can't say much about Putin in personality, there is too much of a contradiction with the man. He doesn't have say... a Personality Cult, but there are times when he borders on having one. So it's hard to say what kind of many he is on that aspect. He paints himself so much as a nice powerful, and multitalented man. It's impressive with some of the things he does, but at the same time, a lot of it is staged. Like him flying with a flock of birds. They had all been taken care of and trained, but the media there had given all due credit to him and made him out to be some nature preservice and more, it got to the point it turned into a back lash. Now in terms of political personality, what a scary, powerful man. He's had a good deal of power that hasn't diminished since the late 90's (Think about how much power you would have to be able to be in charge of a country for this long). His track record has now shown these recent events as a new problem, he's repeated them, and he's been known to threaten countries in a way that hasn't been seen since the cold war. For these reasons, I cannot see Putin as a man who is just idling by with convenient reasons to send troops into a country and annex it. His past actions, views, and behaviour seem to point to a man who does want to empower russia, but at others expense. If I want a better idea of what goes on in his head, I might have to read one of his books. Edit: You know what? That gave me an idea. Searched, and came across this; http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-winner-effect/201403/the-danger-lurks-inside-vladimir-putins-brain “I consider it to be my sacred duty to unify the people of Russia, to rally citizens around clear aims and tasks, and to remember every day and every minute that we have one Motherland, one people and one future.†-Putin I don't mind patriotism, but this worries me yet again... It almost sounds like "One People, One Empire, One Leader" -Hitler

Agreed with that. I'm certain there would never of been an issue. the election was an election, having foreign troops suddenly pour in just caused an entire mess. Most of Russia's population has viewed this as patriotic, something to be prideful of, with an overall view that the West is causing the ukraine problems and that we are pouring money and weapons in trying to surprise a revolution. We did pledge one Billion, but certainly not weapons. It's also worth noting that though the east was the ousted president's stronghold, he had actually been losing support there too, which is the entire justification of Russian involvement. So what does this all leave us? The west seeing Russian Hostility but not really helping. While we have most Russians thinking the Ukraine is a US/Western puppet (Filled with Neo Nazi's at that apparantly according to Russian Media) that has to be "rescued" and absorbed into Russia again, but can't be completely aggressive and risk the west actually being convinced to throw in real weight. Why the hell does this all feel like NAzi Appeasement to me again? We literally allowed Russia to invade and take over Crimea, and that is now apparently not enough. It feels like Austria, Czech Republic, and Poland all over again.

Though he can' mimic, it's been shown that he can do alot with that body. Remember how he turned himself into tiny missiles? Frankly, him being able to turn himself into a flesh coat isn't too far from what he can already do. Even if you were to disregard how much he could change his body now. One just has to look back to his original power (which he's improved and surpassed on greatly) to show that he could mimic anything he wanted. You have to think about how he was mimicking, his power was based on what he had seen visually, and thus all his imitations were flawed. In his G1 imitation, it was a lousy one that couldn't even replicate the face, his G3 imitation was incredibly improved, but he still couldn't replicate the control medal, and his eyes were the wrong detail, later his Thancruz and Imakirum were also good, but had flaws. So that tells us that his transformations, were really limited by his imagination, and his original power was limited by his organs. The current aptom doesn't need internal organs unless it's for a practical purpose, like a weapon, as seen by his thin layer body over Guyver. Aptom also isn't limited in shapes, though he might have a size limit. That's my take on it from what I've seen so far.

Oh boy, Really Purin? You claim to try and deescalate the issue, and you send in tanks? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/world/europe/ukraine-claims-full-control-of-port-city-of-mariupol.html

I believe the orbs on each zoalord are different case by case. I'm betting (not entirely certain myself) with the likeness that Imarikum's are similar to Guyots because of how they've functioned in the past and the fact their powers are related. It would be interesting if the other zoalords had some orbs for gravity, and others for their own specialty. For all we know, the orbs only enhance a certain power. What is certain is that the orbs augment Zoalords abilities. So there is a possibility that while Guyot's allowed him to summon intense gravity, others are entirely different. Guyot even had the often overlooked ability to sacrifice a few for a ranged attack, or several so he could actually exceed their normal functions in order to create Quasi-Black Holes. Since Imakirum did the same attacks, they likely share the function. Others however might be different. I would not be surprised that in one Zoalord, the orbs are meant to regulate absorbed mass, another might have the orbs to better manipulate subspace, while another might have the orbs just so he can stabilize dimensional duplicates. It really depends on how they work, and we have't had a truly detailed study of each zoalord from the source (our admired mangaka) Well that's it, I can really add more to my theory on the matter. For all I know, those orbs could be zoalord body acne a far as the mangaka is concerned.

That or Aptom can hide on the Gigantic to infiltrate. It's a nice partnership, but no real power boosts from one to another. Though Sho did lend Aptom energy (we don't know how yet) so he could use a larger spanning freeze attack, but they aren't linked biologically.

I don't recall her having two crystals. To be honest, this is the first time hearing about it. I have to point out there is a huge difference between Griselda and past proto-Zoalords. She isn't a prototype for another Zoalord. Her design is specifically to allow her to do combat and mind control, to exist for a short duration and still function. It's not perfect, but it's far more stable than Murikami. The drawback with her is that damage in combat or overuse of her abilities forces her to need to be charged up, and that shortens her lifespan. Murikami was breaking down and didn't have that option to be restored, his transformations simply killed him faster without healing some of that damage. You can call Griselda's recharges a stop gap to the problem of being a protozoalord. As for the source of her crystal. Clearly not from Alky, I suspect all dummy crystals are actually just chemically created imitations. Something similar, but not exact. The legitimate crystals are from Alky, and the difference is apparent.

So if Murakami had a stronger dummy crystal could it have been possible to have launched his gravity points even as a prototype? That's debatable, he has a very few number of gravity orbs, but they only seem capable of a few attacks. If his power increased, it might not of allowed him to shoot it. But then again, we don't know they already had the function but he couldn't use them from lack of power or the effect it would have on his body. His new form as more gravity orbs than before and that seems to be part of the reason he can launch those new attacks.