alkanfel009 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 this is personal theory, but may be due to the effect Remover, I creoq stirred ue unit is unit 0, is a good terorya, and may be the lack of orbs, who are hidden under the antenna, who knows, after all we have seen that each part has a function, if they were merely for the beam head, or maybe by way of thorns on his head horns can act in alternate Quote
*guyverfan Posted May 14, 2014 Author Posted May 14, 2014 as youngguyver said yuki, that guyver3 would also have these red orbs but are covered by the heavy armour on his spike. (by the way, i think this is the most i've ever used microsoft paint ) Quote
*Jess♥ Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 you say that as if I never read that or considered it. how does an orb that absorbs light or infra-red light, absorb anything when it is covered? That was entirely my point in fact. Quote
*guyverfan Posted May 14, 2014 Author Posted May 14, 2014 sorry yuki, i didn't mean to type it that way,but you did say that the lack of guyver3 wasn't addressed. just trying to quote something younguyver has suggested, i guess that everyone would have speculated this at some point in time. yes, they are covered but not totally sealed off, so they would be collecting/absorbing heated/charged particules/molecules from the air. and as you've suggested electromagnetic. although, i'm more leaning towards the collection/absorbtion of atmospheric particules/molecules than infrared or light cause how would they be able to shoot the headbeam at night or in a dark room? its all just best guess isn't it? and to tell you the truth yuki, your earlier idea was what pushed me further into realizing this Quote
*Jess♥ Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 sure, I understand what you were saying, but my entire point was, if guyver 3 has red orbs and they are covered then it doesn't lead us to believe that they have an offensive use does it? I'm a bit uncomfortable about how you say, "yes, they are covered but not totally sealed off" as that is quite a strong assertion that is totally unsupported. the most natural assumption when not being able to see something is that it is not there. after all, that line of logic would be like saying "guyver one has 2 blades on each arm, the other one is just hidden". do you see what I'm saying? yes it is a possibility that he may have them and they7 may be hidden, but that is almost certainly a redundancy is it not? In any detailed renderings of those red orbs, they appear semi transparent and they have a red hue which strongly suggests using light in some way. being covered makes them next to useless so even then, it makes more sense to say they just aren't there. after all, if the guyver is such an advanced system, why waste energy on placing something that is going to be ineffective? of course we don't know for sure, the colour and the translucency could be completely irrelevant. the orbs may have nothing to do with the near light spectrum and the appearance may be 'just to look pretty'. To be honest though, that doesn't fit with guyver in my experience. Guyver has always followed some pretty sound logic.Who knows, they may have a specific use, and Guyver 3 may have a mechanism to 'uncover' some orbs that may be under a protective plate? I see what you're saying about collecting ambient particles, maybe like charged particles? ions? ambient radiation? I get that, how does a translucent coloured orb do that? I don't really know about collecting these kinds of atmospheric particles. my first thought would be some kind of magnetic assembly. I admit I have no ideas about that area and probably need to research it. I just see an orb of that configuration, like a lens. and a lens is usually used for EM particles travelling in a straight line. hence my concern about it being covered. 1 Quote
alkanfel009 Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 sorry to say this , but I think you have a purpose , it is very pocible that takaya not want to reveal it yet , I mean , how long it seemed guyver , and has about 30 years in the TIMP , have seen havilidades from gravity until the sound, guyver , but these orbs have not miss nothing , to be, a weapon, so you see it , you yegue halgo surprise us , think, guyver already gravity control , high frequency knife , sonic attacks, directed energy weapons , sensors , from movement , x -ray , telescopic vicion and bacicamente a spy base in his head, ficica increased strength, resistant armor, accelerated regeneration , virtual immortality , increased reflexes and reaction , in short, short or long range , melee or sniper attack as , multiple enemies or scurrying , stand have dominated the field of battle, so think a little, that would be the thing that these areas could do, we have what the guyver moment , not rule out the fact that they can have relationship with , head beam . but thinking that things can not do guyver , for me are these , 1 in its normal form that is not gigantic , teleport , or create a shield of energy, 2 turn , invisivle , or intangible, 3 teleportation , affect or stop time , go back in , 1 Quote
*guyverfan Posted May 15, 2014 Author Posted May 15, 2014 yep, your absolutely right. and i hope takaya will surprise us....soon.theres a whole list of items that these might be used for, including just decoration, and its fun to be able to discuss and debate the ideas.until takaya sensei actually shows us, and we'll all be......'oooohhhhhh, so that's what they're used for,.... why did it take this long!' hahaha. i'm just putting out an idea with a few theories with an explanation on how i think they may work. basically hinting that they're similar to the workings of the megasmasher, only being a miniture version of a particule accellerator. ok, another theory is teleportation, how would it work?- by folding space,maybe,-how does it do that? have we seen in the manga any of the hosts teleport anywhere while equiped with the unit, no! have we seen the headbeam being used? f@ck'n shitloads (i'm laughing while i'm typing this)val steals the unit, megablasts out of cronos then goes to the airport and catches a flight LOL. why not just teleport? don't get me wrong, i'm all for teleportation. i'm just saying, cmon already, we're near the end of volume31! its frustating not knowing and need something to fill that void. Quote
Larz Zahn Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 What about passive abilities? Powers that have no combat potential? I would say like Regen, or something to do with the suits protection against extreme heat? I just don't see how an orb would effect cellular regeneration. Its been here since the beginning, and im having a hard time believing that another base Guyver power will emerge so late in the show, especially once the gigantic showed up. 2 Quote
*guyverfan Posted May 15, 2014 Author Posted May 15, 2014 when i look at guyver3, i see something thats designed for up close combat. besides the gillette blades where if the first doesn't cut you, the second one will, his helmet is designed to deter any physical assult with spikes around his chin and jaw and on his scalp. to me, it makes sense that if he does have these red orbs that they'd be protected instead of being out in the open, vulnerable. i've noticed in the manga that at times the illustrations show a shadow between the layers of his head spike and more so in the animes, which suggests to me a gap/vent between them. if the layers were sealed against each other, then there wouldn't be a shadow cast between them? a small vent/gap is all that would be needed if these are to collect/absorb or sense anything. yep, these probably are just sensors that detect and analyze atmosphere/gas/heat and liquid vapour as i can't think of how the silver orbs would detect these. i say this because obviously the silver orbs look solid where the little red orbs look more of a soft membrane/gel lense to me.like an eyeball Quote
oogeej Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 Maybe the red orbs on the base of the antenna help facilitate the Guyvers' telepathy. 1 Quote
*Jess♥ Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 since they are at the base of the antenna, that makes sense. Quote
*guyverfan Posted June 8, 2014 Author Posted June 8, 2014 Maybe the red orbs on the base of the antenna help facilitate the Guyvers' telepathy. yep, works for me. wouldn't know why gigantic would need 2extra ones though? Quote
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