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What Zoaform would you like to see combined with what Unit and why?

I personally would love to see an overlord bonded with the proto-Guyver unit because they seem like they would naturally complement each other and would make it one bad cookie to deal with.

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I personally would love to see a libertus merged with any unit as zoanoids go they maybe the most badass. So yeah like i said any kind of unit would make them hardcore.

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I personally would love to see a libertus merged with any unit as zoanoids go they maybe the most badass. So yeah like i said any kind of unit would make them hardcore.

The big question would be would the Unit stabilse their short 2 to 3 year life span, then if it did would it effect their power level?

Either way it would be one of the few Guyvers capable of killing itself and taking out a lot of things along with it.

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So what sully you think mode C would be enhanced well if the explosion is converted bio-energy then i imagine that the explosion would be very big. Also if it had a warrior unit then it could self destruct and stay alive at the same time. :twisted:

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What Zoaform would you like to see combined with what Unit and why?

I personally would love to see an overlord bonded with the proto-Guyver unit because they seem like they would naturally complement each other and would make it one bad cookie to deal with.

Not exactly. The Proto Guyver has no similar powers to an overlord. But it would make for an interesting Guyver Overlord. Wouldn't be near as powerful as most would think maybe wild guess between 8 to 15x in raw strength and Guyver levels. The Overlord powers may double or triple the power if that.

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Any type of guyver enzyme.

Warrior guyver enzyme 1,

Nova guyver enzyme 2.

Guyver enzyme 3.

Or a new type of enzyme that can effect warrior type units getting somthing like the reaper guyvers unit.

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Well what I had ment by complement is that since an Overlord has Zoalord mental powers and the Proto-Guyver gives the user some zoalord telepathic powers, it would seem to me that the resulting combination would have psionic powers that would far outweigh it's Guyver powers. Similar to Solufein.

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Perhaps.

My favorite would be any type of Guyver Thancrus. Reason is because of pure speed such a Guyver zoaform could have. I just like the speed. That and while not overly super powerful like a BGD or GPZ are, would be moderate in strength and firepower.

At the opposite end, a Guyver Zektole would be impressive. Probably as powerful as the GPZ but with more firepower.

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Any type of guyver enzyme.

Warrior guyver enzyme 1,

Nova guyver enzyme 2.

Guyver enzyme 3.

Or a new type of enzyme that can effect warrior type units getting somthing like the reaper guyvers unit.

Welcome to the board :D

My only worry there would be the following, would the Unit actually be able to merge with the host? Warrior Unit maybe, but the standard one no it would simply disolve during the merging process. The Unit most likely would have some programming on the lines of "can't merge, go back to being dormant" and the Enzyme would be standing there looking at a dormant Unit.... That's just my guess though but it's backed up by what we know about the enyme blood.

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That would be my line of reasoning as well. E en though the unit adapts to the host, I'd just don't think the unit could merge with a lifeform that is capable of breaking down the bonds of the Guyver armor.

On the flip side, it might be contained within the unit but severely disruptive to the surrounding armor when discharged.

...or the unit mutates and is now immune to it's own acid or other acids. As we'll boosting the acid to be more acidic. Like a single drop could dissolve a whole Guyver or something by chain reaction.

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my fav would probably be battle guyver + bio-titan.

i seem to recall sully or one of the other "bigwigs" saying bio-titans are incapable of merging with guyver units, but that doesnt stop mefrom thinking how powerful one would be. Warrior guyver Bio-titan would just be freaking overkill.

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How about a guyver Gliddeon(not sure about the spelling here) :D , if it's a type of neo-hyper version of Thancrus then it would be very fast. If you managed to get you hands on Guyver 2's enhanced unit and merged it with the Gliddeon it would be very dangerous.

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Any neo-hyper zoanoid with even a normal Guyver unit would be overkill assuming there is no limitation device in it. For example, a Guyver Bio Titan would easily match a Guyver Zoalord. A Battle Guyver Bio Titan would kill a Guyver Zoalord in a straight fight which probably would destroy whole planets in the process.

That cloaking zoanoid from the later books in the manga would be neat if merged with a Ninja Guyver or Shadow Guyver unit. Assuming of course both cloaking abilities can be merged together and enhanced. At the very least, imagine a Guyver that can fire it's weapons cloaked and even having the weapons it fired cloaked as well.

I would imagine even Dreadnought would have difficulty figuring that one out.

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Well let's assume we are in the WG universe so that the limitation device is in use.

So a battle Guyver bio-Titan would have 10x strength, speed around 15,000 mph, lower armor durability but ridiculously high regeneration and extremely powerful shielding, with enhanced weaponry. Essentially on par with a gigantic without any stamina issues and far faster healing.

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Remember, under the new power scale the Zoalords are more powerful... But the Hypers should pretty much stay the same. Since aside from a few rare exceptions like Neo Zektole, none of them had the power to destroy whole cities by their lonesome....

Combined with the limiter means we can have more reasonable over kill characters :mrgreen::lol::roll:

For cloaking, once you reach invisibility there isn't much that can enhance it more. The cloaking Zoaforms are pretty much undetectable already, it's just Guyvers can sense a gap in their perception and they really have to be looking for it to even sense that much. Though definitely possible to spread the effect and invisible attacks would be interesting but likely limited to a certain radius.

Though there are other cloaking zoaforms, like that one that attacked FG2 with the Enzyme III's that was also able to generate a barrier field that so far we've only seen Zoalords and the Gigantic produce before.

While depending on the Unit, dimensional effects could come into play for effects that could also make them harder to counter-attack unless also attacked by someone with dimensional abilities.

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I also like the idea of a classic combo of say a standard unlimited unit g and a Gregole. He would'nt be the most powerful guy out there but he would be about a 16x type of guy, enough to level the floor with most but not an A bomb type guy.

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Which is I like zoaforms like Vamore or Thrancrus which are not really powerful but have their strengths that can be enhanced by the Guyver unit to have a weapon or two that greatly exceeds their power level.

When I mentioned Guyver Zoalord I meant the original. 200x version or the even older version in the original Time War estimate by Solom himself at being 400x. Though I do suspect the original Solom estimate is probably more in line with the new rewrites. But I sort of remember Sully mentioning something about Reeve still being in the old estimate at 200x.

Ninja Guyver has dimensional abilities. But... The Guyver unit could cause a mutation with a cloaking zoanoid. Which is why I suggest that a claiming Guyver Zoanoid may cloak his own attacks which could mAke him deadly to even Dreadnought.

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When I mentioned Guyver Zoalord I meant the original. 200x version or the even older version in the original Time War estimate by Solom himself at being 400x. Though I do suspect the original Solom estimate is probably more in line with the new rewrites. But I sort of remember Sully mentioning something about Reeve still being in the old estimate at 200x.

Someone can feel free to correct me if my memory is spotty on that detail, but If I remember Correctly, that was because G'Kor gave Reeve a Unit with a limiter that kept Reeve from becoming as powerful as expected as the Guyver Zoalord. I may need to go through Time War with a fine-tooth comb to confirm that (and I admit, I should be working on my intro story for Gabe, but re-writing from memory what I'd lost has been a slow and arduous process), but I think that was the reason why GZ was at 200x, rather than Solom's estimate of 400x.

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It is hard to identify which or what made the Guyver Zoalord at his level. One reference says he was a weak zoalord with a normal unit and the other said he was a normal zoalord with a buttered down unit. Or all of the above. That is pre-rewrite however.

I don't remember offhand if the unit Reeve has in the new rewrites is 100% or the limitation device is subdued making the unit not working 100%. That and Solom's estimate I said above is the original story written over a decade before specifics were probably written down. So... You could take it as you want. Solom's memory is sketchy from being in I e for so long or he was assuming that Reeve is no limit Guyver Zoalord or he is correct and no assumptions.

Considering the Supreme Zoalords are at least two or three times more powerful than originally than Reeve could be a 4x zoalord or he could be 2x and is lower than we think. Kron could have placed him high up because of being brothers.

Regardless, the Guyver Zoalord took out thousands of Zoalords and millions of zoanoids. That is far more impressive than a straight 100x increase in zoalord ability. Which makes me believe it's not linear but more on a bell curve. 2+2=5 for example. Or 1=2.

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