Time War Part 4

[Sully]

Hey all, FYI part 4 has now being put up on the site.

[OnyxPhoenix]

(rubbing hands together in earnest) Off to read it; thanks for the goodies, Sully.

[largo]

Thanks it was great.

[jedi-guyver]

loved it. enjoyed the expanded uses of the wg's abilities

[Sully]

Thanks guys

[McAvoy]

Well I learned something. Drinking five beers while reading on a computer does not help.

Anyway after a second reading. It is excellent and definitely an improvement on the original.

I liked the bit on Chronos. It was never really explained but we all knew why Chronos never fully attacked the ACTF full on. Though it is interesting that the advancement on Chronos lines is much earlier than before. With only Texas and Arizona not being freed.

Solom's interaction with the humans is very interesting. I wonder how or why Solom in WG2's universe became such an asshole. Maybe he is just that different.

Gigantic Guyver fights off three Grakkens in Union. Makes sense, since Gigantic is much, much more powerful than a Grakken.

The Grakken story on why he was there also makes much more sense as well. I liked the interactions between the scientists. Maybe we will see them in the later rewrites.

[Vengeance]

*Bangs head against wall* For some reason I can't find Part 4. Every time I click on it I just get the old version of part 1

[Sully]

*Bangs head against wall* For some reason I can't find Part 4. Every time I click on it I just get the old version of part 1

Clear your cache or just hit refresh a lot

[Vengeance]

It worked! *does the happy dance*

[largo]

I know this may sound stupid but with what we now know of the Gigantic Guyver Exceed how would sho fair against the guyverzoalord.

[McAvoy]

He would probably get killed, just not as quickly as the zoalords and Guyvers.

I'd imagine the Guyver Zoalord is not only a mere combo of Guyver and Zoalord but in a form of Exceed himself.

[Sully]

This is where "Most Powerful" doesn't exactly mean "most survivable". The Gigantic by far is more powerful than a Warrior Guyver, but what saves the Warrior Guyver survivablity and a system designed to turn gravity based attacks back on the attacker using their power against them. IF it was not for that Warrior Guyver would have died and wouldn't have had the firepower to kill the Guyver Zoalord (bare in mind, in reality the Guyver Zoalord was tricketed into killing himself more than anything else).

As McAvoy said, basically he'd have died at roughly the same point Warrior Guyver would have in the first bit of part 5, only he'd have not returned from the dead as the control medal lacks it's own independant shild and escape system.

[McAvoy]

I think sometimes people forget how truly powerful the Guyver Zoalord really is. Zeugma used her most powerful attack on him and didn't work. Thousands of zoalords and zoanoids died trying to stop him. Of course she is a weaker version of Alkanphel whose own attack destroyed a Mars sized planetoid, but she should be able to pull the same feat on something at least the size of the Moon. The Gigantic Guyver isn't that powerful.

Also brings up a new point. Is the zoalord as powerful as before meaning as powerful as a Supreme Zoalord of the old datafiles or is his powerful adjusted as well to fit with the Gigantic?

[Sully]

the Guyver Zoalord is basically off a Zoalord that would be equal in raw power terms tothe old estimates of a Gigantic Guyver (basically twice that of a normal Guyver).

[McAvoy]

I see. So roughly as powerful to the old estimates of a Supreme Zoalord.

But that also brings up the question as a brother of a Master Zoalord and a Gen created one as well, why is he so weak? I doubt the Supreme Zoalords remained the same level as before.

[Sully]

I see. So roughly as powerful to the old estimates of a Supreme Zoalord.

But that also brings up the question as a brother of a Master Zoalord and a Gen created one as well, why is he so weak? I doubt the Supreme Zoalords remained the same level as before.

Because Master Zoalords like Enforcers are a pain in the ass to make. This is part of the jelous nature in Revee v Korn that made him a good idea for the GuyverZoalord.

[Destroyer Guyver]

Reeve must have really wanted a taste of Krons power if he was willing to become a Guyver Zoalord. Outside of some massive ambition on Reeves part I wonder what could cause jealousy that extreme.

[Sully]

Reeve must have really wanted a taste of Krons power if he was willing to become a Guyver Zoalord. Outside of some massive ambition on Reeves part I wonder what could cause jealousy that extreme.

Having to tidy up your brothers mess for a lifetime (and in a Zoalords case a VERY LONG life time)?

[Destroyer Guyver]

Kron was THAT bad

[McAvoy]

I see. So roughly as powerful to the old estimates of a Supreme Zoalord.

But that also brings up the question as a brother of a Master Zoalord and a Gen created one as well, why is he so weak? I doubt the Supreme Zoalords remained the same level as before.

Because Master Zoalords like Enforcers are a pain in the ass to make. This is part of the jelous nature in Revee v Korn that made him a good idea for the GuyverZoalord.

What I meant is that while granted Kron is a Master Zoalord and Reeve is some sort of lower level zoalord, I was trying to compare the Supreme zoalords of Chronos vs. the common zoalord of the Gen. In the old fic, they were about equal, with the Gen zoalords being of higher quality. Now with the Gigantic being much more powerful which in turns so does the Chronos Zoalords, will the Gen created zoalords get a boost as well?

[Sully]

The Gen created basic ones will not be "boosted", but there are different power levels between them at a Master.

[McAvoy]

I figured as much. Makes sense because it creates a rank structure which the Gen can use to promote good zoalords when the needs arise.