weird thought

[largo]

How powerful would a guyver be if the host was archanphel but not a zoalord just archanphel as he is supposed to be the perfect human would he be different from a normal guyver unit?

[Sully]

Strnage fact of the books, Alkanphel was never human.

If you mean in his more human looking form how powerful would he be as a true Guyver? Preaty dam powerful close to that of what Guyot would be in his full Zoalord form would be my guess. Alkanphel in his humanoid form showed amazing power and was able to frighten Guyot off, the only attack Guyot had that broke through his shields being the Black hole attack itself, and that didn't even kill Alkanphel.

[Juggernought]

But wouldn't his DNA have been taken from when humans were finally created and then changed into a zoalord as he was incubated?

[Sully]

But wouldn't his DNA have been taken from when humans were finally created and then changed into a zoalord as he was incubated?

Possibly, very like our DNA is related to monkey's. To Alkanphel, we are the monkey. He is the ulitmate in everything the Uranus learned on Earth collected in one being. He was simply born like that in an adult form.

[McAvoy]

I think it be reasonable to assume that Alkanphel as a human Guyver would probably be as powerful as Alkanphel in his full zoalord form, if not more.

If Alkanphel could chase away Guyot in his human form, which he technically didn't even use any additional powers beyond floating around and shielding attacks, then as a Guyver he would be far, far more powerful.

Of course, as a Guyver Alkanphel...

[OnyxPhoenix]

The reason Guyot ran is probably the same reason any of the other Zoalords would run if Alk put the fear of "God" into them; he simply radiates POWER. Not just his body, but from his mind. All other Zoalords simply pale in comparison to what Alk's mind can do, and how they sense it. Best way I can describe it off the top of my head is a Horror/Awe Factor, from the Palladium RPG series. Just being in Alk's presence, that is what u sense. For most humans, it would be the awe, as if looking right at an angel. For the Zoalords, it's no questions asked respect and loyalty, save for Guyot, who was full of raw ambition when he learned of the Units and the power he could have. still, Guyot was sweating bullets when they finally met face to face, and even after surviving the Black Hole, Alk was in no means amused at Guyot any more.

I'll have back your Zoacrystal, Richard.

(from the 2005 manga series)

'Nuff said.

[McAvoy]

The reason Guyot ran is probably the same reason any of the other Zoalords would run if Alk put the fear of "God" into them; he simply radiates POWER. Not just his body, but from his mind. All other Zoalords simply pale in comparison to what Alk's mind can do, and how they sense it. Best way I can describe it off the top of my head is a Horror/Awe Factor, from the Palladium RPG series. Just being in Alk's presence, that is what u sense. For most humans, it would be the awe, as if looking right at an angel. For the Zoalords, it's no questions asked respect and loyalty, save for Guyot, who was full of raw ambition when he learned of the Units and the power he could have. still, Guyot was sweating bullets when they finally met face to face, and even after surviving the Black Hole, Alk was in no means amused at Guyot any more.

I'll have back your Zoacrystal, Richard.

(from the 2005 manga series)

'Nuff said.

I would agree with this one. Even though Alkanphel is severely weakened he still has that mental power of a Master Zoalord.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Appreciate the thought, McAvoy. Also, to add a little bit more here, I don't remember if it was from the books or from the anime series, but Balcus/Barcus himself said that even if all the other Zoalords teamed up against Alk, even in his weakened state, they still would not be able to defeat him. A Master Zoalord who disobeyed the Creators' will, destroyed a planetoid with most of his power, has been sleeping for a great deal of the time he's been on earth, and was attacked by one of the most powerful Zoalords at the time (Guyot) and was still able to come out on top by surviving the Black Hole that Guyot dropped on him...., anyone else get the msg here? U do not screw around with Alk if u want to stay on his good side (if he even has one.)

[McAvoy]

I know it came from the books but not sure about the anime. That's where WG.com's power level for Alkanphel came from. 11 Zoalords at about 2x equals 2,200 men. Give a bit more advantage beyond that for 4,000 men. With a better understanding of the Gigantic, Zoalords can be anywhere between 4x to 20x. Alkanphel for example could be anywhere between 44x to 110x. But in reality you really cannot use physical strength as a basis for power. Alkanphel's ultimate attack is far, far, far, far, beyond the ability to use Zoalords or Guyvers as a basis for comparison. Alkanphel blew up a planetoid the size of Mars.

However, we know the Gigantic was created by Sho's will to defeat someone like Alkanphel. Whether or not the Gigantic was built to fight a fully healed Alkanphel or the weakened Alkanphel or the Gigantic still hasn't unlocked it's full potential is still up in the air.