Guyver Protozoalord

[Zoaknight]

How strong would a Protozoalord with a Guyver unit be? Would he possess nearly God like power like the Guyver Zoalord from the Warrior Guyver fanfics or would he be more along the lines of powerhouse type characters like Dreadnought, Zeugma, Arcanfel, Zeus, Kron, etc?

A standard unit magnifies a living creatures power a hundred times I believe, so how strong is a Protozoalord normally?

[Juggernought]

Proto zoalords are near true zoalord power levels. They have all the basic abilities and could be a substitute in case one of the ruling 12 is out of commission. So with a guyver unit equipped we are looking at near guyver zoalord type levels of power but not equal.

[McAvoy]

It also depends on the proto zoalord as well.

There is already an example of a Guyver Protozoalord. It's in the GwotG in the sotry of Cat and Mouse. A protozoalord named Darkness was able to mergew with a control medal of a prticular unit that possessed two control medals. One of them were destroyed and the other recovered by Zoalord Darkness where he then somehow was able to merge with it. His power is not nearly as great as a true Guyver Protozoalord would be. His Bio Level was stated to be 72,045 which is twice as powerful as Guyver Alkanphal. This would put him in the 60x to 70x. For a comparison Dues and Zagam are within this range. Dreadnought was read as being 26655 or 25-28x.

[Zoaknight]

hhhmmm....Well, how strong was Murakami in his original protozoalord form? Was his strength level that of 100 men like a Guyver or was it 150 (like a Neo-Zektole) or 200 (like a Zoalord or Guyver Gigantic?)?

[Juggernought]

I would say he had power close zoalord level, maybe approximately around guyver level or slightly above as he was able to tangle with Guyot for a while and even managed to hurt him badly. His only major drawback was that his stamina was severely low and possibly a flaw in his design that shortened his life span whenever he transformed fully.

[Zoaknight]

Since a Guyver boosts a host's strength 100 times that of its norm, then that means a protozoalord possessing the strength of 100 men would gain the strength of 10,000 men, 150 men would become 15,000, and 200 men would become 20,000 men (assuming Murakami had strength equal to that of a full Supreme Zoalord minus the stamina necessary to keep it up).

This is assuming the strength levels of the zoaforms in question are the same as described in the data files on the warrior guyver site (the original power levels they possessed prior to their upgrades during the warrior guyver storyline).

[Juggernought]

I don't think the power levels work quite like that. I'm not an expert on the calculations of the power levels but say for example a being is stronger than 60 men and gets a unit, doesn't always mean it will be 6000 x stronger. A guyver unit would bring the zoalord qualities of the proto zoalord to the fore front and boost it to its ultimate potential for that level. So in theory it's power meaning the weapons derived from having a guyver mixed with zoalord properties would far exceed what it could physically do. But i think a guyver proto zoalord would still be more than a match for alkanphel and dreadnought

[Zoaknight]

So there's no way to truly measure just how strong such a being would be? I figured if the guyver boosts your natural strength 100 x then it was a simple matter of doing the math to figure it out

[McAvoy]

The best way I tell you is that the Guyver unit bio boosts the bio energy of the host. The more it has at the base the more the Guyver unit will bio boost until it reaches it's maximum of 100x. Examples would be Guyver Zoanoid being only 200 men vs. something higher. Warrior Guyver Vamore being only 1,000 men vs. 2,000 men.

But on the other side, the Guyver unit does mutate certasin abilities of the host zoanoid. Examples would be Guyver Powered Zerebubuse's arm cannon and Warrior Guyver Vamore's shoulder pods.

A Proto-Zoalord is still a Zoalord and possesses alot of bio energy. Now it is possible that Murakami wouldn't be a full 100x boost due to his stamina. But the other protozoalords would recieve the full 100x boost. In other words, Alkanphel and Dreadnought would be no match for a Guyver Proto Zoalord.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

The real question is- would the Guyver extend and possibly halt the deterioration of the proto-Zoalord's health? Another way of looking at it is if you had cancer, would bonding with a Guyver heal the disease, or would it make the Unit reject you as a host?

[guyverfanatic]

The real question is- would the Guyver extend and possibly halt the deterioration of the proto-Zoalord's health? Another way of looking at it is if you had cancer, would bonding with a Guyver heal the disease, or would it make the Unit reject you as a host?

I would say it would halt the deterioration of the proto-zoalord's health, but not cure it.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

What do you mean by that? I thought continual usage of a PZ's power would eventually kill him; halting the negative effects is essentially the same as curing him. I no longer have my Viz book where Dr. Hayami explains to Murakami how grave his condition is (the conversation Mizuky overheard). Maybe if he was foolish enough to use only his PZ powers without bio-boosting, the Unit wouldn't be able to protect him. If he was able to use less of his power as his condition worsened, I see what you mean, and a Guyver wouldn't be able to get him 100x up to his previous levels- it would only enhance his abilities to 100x their current state. I just can't remember if he was less powerful the closer he got to death.

[guyverfanatic]

What do you mean by that? I thought continual usage of a PZ's power would eventually kill him; halting the negative effects is essentially the same as curing him. I no longer have my Viz book where Dr. Hayami explains to Murakami how grave his condition is (the conversation Mizuky overheard). Maybe if he was foolish enough to use only his PZ powers without bio-boosting, the Unit wouldn't be able to protect him. If he was able to use less of his power as his condition worsened, I see what you mean, and a Guyver wouldn't be able to get him 100x up to his previous levels- it would only enhance his abilities to 100x their current state. I just can't remember if he was less powerful the closer he got to death.

What I mean is that the bio-booster armor halts the deterioration of health indefinitely while the unit is bonded to him. By no means is he cured. Once the unit is removed his health will again go down the tubes.

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

Ooohhhh- you're thinking that far ahead.

You know, there's a genre of Fics called "Peggy Sue" fics. In reference to the movie "Peggy Sue Got Married," where characters get to re-do the canon they came from. I have an idea for such a fic, where a character goes back mentally in time to inhabit their younger selves. Mine would be Tetsuro going back and taking the units from Malmot and bonding with one, and holding on to the other two. I like the idea of Cronos not being able to find a single trace of the Units, and trying to imagine how they would proceed.

I have one funny scene imagined where Tetsuro suddenly whirls around at school when he knows Agito is behind him, paranoid that despite how careful he was Agito is still onto him; Agito simply gives him a simple "WTF?!" look.

The twist would be that Archanfel is the one who sent Tetsuro back after the Advents have returned to Earth and decimated it; he sent him because there was simply no one else available to go. It was the deaths of many of the Zoalords and the Rogue Three that splintered the Council, leaving them unprepared for the attack, so Tetsuro has to walk a fine line because he knows as long as the threat of the Advents is still out there, the Twelve are needed. So why do I bring this up in this thread? Easy. He has two spare Units...

That and I like the idea of a Guyver barely using his powers to fight Cronos, using deception and his foreknowledge instead.

[jedi-guyver]

On a slight simliar note, How powerful would Syn be with a guyver unit

[McAvoy]

On a slight simliar note, How powerful would Syn be with a guyver unit

My best guess is probably between 60 to 150x. She does have powers that rival that of a Proto Zoalord. Her regeneration however as Guyver Syn would be unsurpassed.