What Sho Could of Had?

[gelionlegends]

Well this is following in the "what if" and that being if the WG had been created or one of the units from that timeline fell into a alternitive timeline around the time the three units were found and then scattered to be picked up by those people.

My question would be along the lines of what unit from WG could sho have gotten or if the WG event history did happen, and instead of unit 1 standard Guyver was instead another unit, that or a fourth unit was found and sho was the one to activate it.

This unit for example could be either from the Warrior project, Nova or past test units, even a second fully complete Warrior Guyver maybe slightly more advaced than Jason's say having corrected on any flaws or making improvements to the functions and so on to the unit.

But in the end if Sho had gained a different unit, how ever it came about, what would it be and how do you all think it would effect the storyline and time line with such a change?

[Juggernought]

Any significant changes in the time line in the past will definitely cause a change in the present time line events. I believe this question was similarly asked before. The possibilities are virtually endless depending on what you introduce into the story.

[gelionlegends]

Well then Juggernought, if you had the choice of altering what unit Sho bonded with then what would you personally choose that would make Sho's life, and his friends, different?

Like, how would it effect Agito and Guyot with someone gaining a unit that is just a little bit more powerful? Or maybe a lot more powerful or maybe not even in the same way as the standard unit? Since there are other types, like the Nova Units, instead of the Warrior Unit types that can give even a small amount of enhancement to the unit. . .

[Juggernought]

If it were possible...I'd have Sho receiving the Guyver Supreme unit. It's only slightly more powerful than a standard unit having more physical strength, stamina and addition of shielding. Since the supreme unit did eliminate most competition for the warrior unit project, it was a very formidable opponent for even guyvers. That being said, this would have allowed Sho to defeat most of the zoanoids with relative ease. I doubt it would make his life easier, Chronos would just be more careful how they approached him and they would just send much more powerful adversaries. No matter how powerful you are, people can always use what you desire to protect most, against you.

Agito would probably be much more careful in how he manipulated Sho now, but probably only to a certain point because Sho could potentially outlast him in a fight, if he conserved energy. Guyot may or may not try and speed up his plan to recover Agito's unit, or even Sho's unit, even though a regular unit remover doesn't work on the supreme unit.

The more powerful of a unit Sho obtains, of course the people mentioned above would react accordingly depending on what level of threat Sho poses to their plans.

But ultimately i would choose the supreme unit, because it wouldn't take too much away from how the original story went and changes wouldn't be that drastic. However, there is a chance the gigantic wouldn't get created until later on, not at all or possibly Agito being the one to create it instead.

[gelionlegends]

True, but with the Gigantic unit I would still think it would get created but with the supreme I would think something new would happen; like if Agito called it he could find that he would not be as powerful as Sho is with the Gigantic, as it would be designed around Sho's more advanced unit.

That and another idea is that the one thing that is lacking in Sho's unit would be a HSL, which could be created. So outside the Gigantic he would be able to use his for much longer or maybe something added to take off the nasty side effect when using the unit for too long... which leaves someone recovering until they are recovered as that was always a problem with this unit.

Though if that unit was used maybe a upgrade of some of the other abilities that are standard to better balance the unit out with its other abilities. As you would have thought when they made that unit the other abilities would be upgraded to reflect like 2x or 3x?

[Juggernought]

The Supreme unit, like many others was a test unit to try and create the warrior unit. It is considered a failure, no further testing or advancements were made based on this model but since it was still much stronger than most units, the Creator Council used it as a test for other scientists' experiments to be evaluated. If they beat the supreme, they could continue researching their particular unit to become the war unit, if not then they were discarded. So the implementation of the HSL wouldn't really be appropriate right now, since that is too early in the story for it and you don't really have much of a story if you introduce such a thing in only one person. Also that side effect of only being able to use the guyver for a short period of time gets eliminated the longer you use the unit and keep it active, as is seen with Primitive Guyver.

I don't think the gigantic would be created for sho in this instance because the supreme unit would have been able to withstand most of the mega smasher attack that Alkanphel redirected back at them. The shields could have given him long enough time to get out of the way. Since Agito (in the original version) was pulled into the pod as well and placed in a healing cocoon, i would assume (in an alternate version) he would be the one to gain more power. Coincidentally, yes the gigantic would be more powerful on sho's unit once they try and see what it would be like. But i think the only enhancements would be as far as more stamina....meaning more bio boosted time and firing powerful weapons more...extra shielding and more physical strength. Everything else would remain at normal gigantic guyver levels.

Even if Sho did gain lots of power early on in the story, in order to balance it out....his personality may be altered so that he was afraid to use the unit or only used it when he or his friends was about to die. But then there wouldn't be much of a story if you didn't see much of the guyver now would there....

[gelionlegends]

I know the history of the Supreme unit, it's something that I find very fascinating though I find it strange that only; strength, hyper sensors and durability were enhanced with only a small enhancement for speed via the shield used in the defence for short bursts. Leaving the rest to stay standard, you would have thought the rest would also be enhanced. Though maybe there is another unit yet to be revealed that has the opposite enhanced and stamina too.

Though with the Primitive Guyver I would have thought being an exception as he has basically been active for a very long time, enough time I would think for him to develop the stamina reserves. While I don’t think Sho would get the time needed to improve his unless he wore it 24-7 and did normal everyday actions, this I would think could increase his stamina though he would have to hide from Chronos for the time or he would be in for a lot of fights.

So that was why I said the GS having a special enhancement, maybe something crude like a bio-energy doubler or something, that increases its stamina and at cost channel it into its other weapons and defences etc. doesn’t mean it would last longer if it was in a high or very high level battle, that and they didn’t do some improvements on the unit like little tweaks and such but kept it at the same level with nothing over dramatic like giving it the HSL or energy drain ability and so on, that would be too much but you see what I mean on the tweak side though?

Though with the mega smasher blast reflected back at him and Agito, Sho could well have moved in front of him to protect him or enough so that his shield gave enough to do so, then Sho was the one connected to the ship at the time and with his unit more advanced would most likely have more control. So Agito would most likely get healed but I doubt he would get the upgrade, though I'm not sure if the ship may not have activated the shield thus giving it enough time to get the hell out of the Zoalords attacks?

With Sho's personality change only thing I can think of besides your option for the outcome would be the opposit being he becomes more aggressive or more willing to use the unit's power, you know about power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutly so I would think somthing like that would happen with Sho and the GS unit?

Though with this new unit I would think the Hyper Zoanods would be more likely to be more powerful than they are, not the Hyper Zoanoid Team Five straight away or Zerebubuth or its upgraded form, but what's left of the Team 5 getting an upgrade which in turn makes them more powerful. So they then can handle Sho's GS but also it would make them harder to create from scratch like Hyper Zoanoids before, this would also mean Agito would have to work that much harder in being able to kill the Neo Hyper Zoanoids he runs across.

[Juggernought]

Well the Guyver Supreme unit was the first in line of "Battle Guyvers" or the true first step towards creating the Warrior unit. Since the Creators would have spent millions of years of researching and testing to produce even this it wouldn't be that much more powerful due to the fact that all the Guyver units use to be universal space suits for the Creators, not war armor. Even the Guyver is a mutation due to the nature of the host and the Creators had yet to get the ideas of changing the CM function and designs or implementing new systems in the armor. The Guyver is an unexpected occurance after all.

That ship was a normal Relic and also an older model so probably it wouldn't have shields or it was possibly still too weak to produce them and only had enough energy to fly. Sho doesn't really get corrupted, even with the additional power he gains. With even the gigantic unit now, he only brings it out if he requires more power to get the job done. His attitude mainly is he will do whatever it takes to protect his friends...he isn't a push over any longer. He's only aggressive when he needs to be and ruthless when he is pushed too far in my opinion.

Interesting note...it seems Atkins will get the Supreme unit, but since he has yet to activate it, that's not certain. It would be nice to see him get it though. He's been after one ever since he found out about Sean.

[*zeo]

Note: The Barrier Shield is a natural function of the Relic's, which is why the Gigantic has this ability, but it has its limits.

When Guyver 0 was created he fired upon two Relics, the first was a surprise and thus had not time to put a shield as the Mega Smasher destroys its brain and Navigation Spheres (this Relic later becomes Silha Island), and the other was hit after Archanphel warped Guyver 0's Mega Smasher beam around himself and let it go on to hit another Relic which did manage to put up its shield in time but even then the beam damaged the Relic through the shield (it's unknown whether this Relic is the one from Relic's Point or the Fossilized Arizona Relic but I believe it to be the later).

[Juggernought]

That could be possible...and if it were the Arizona relic that could in some way possibly explain why Guyver Zoanoid's control medal was damaged.

[*zeo]

Guyver 2: Dark Hero took place in Utah!

[Juggernought]

Ah...yes..my bad...completely ignore that last comment lol, momentary slip in memory!

[McAvoy]

There is really only two units in the WG.com universe that wouldn't drastically alter the course of the original timeline. That said the Turbo unit and the Supreme unit. The other units like the Proto Guyver, Battle Guyver, Shadow Guyver and so forth are too powerful or unique. Hell Battle Guyver, is practically as powerful as a Gigantic without the stamina limitation.

The Supreme Guyver is probably the first successful prototype Battle Guyver unit. So that being siad it wouldn't be that hard to figure that the Creators at this point are trying to figure out how the Unit-G works as a Guyver, not as a spacesuit.