gelionlegends Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Basically what I was thinking is similar in part to the other what if, well it should have been what if Sho's Guyver that is if it's in the right section of the forum of the guyver board? In this case what would have happened if Risker hadn't activated the Guyver but or a slight twist: A) The zoanoid found it, as it is damaged. B) It's lost and is either found by someone else, not chronos, or Sho's friend finds it and it activates it. C) If Risker had been a hyper zoanoid and bonded to either a damaged unit G2 or an undamaged G2 D) Like the first two but it isn't in the damaged state from its landing when found, plus Risker gets it in undamaged state and activates it. So that last part could be a D question but just thinking about it also begs the next question would Risker choose to be turned into a hyper zoanoid, would it be a common one like Zerebubuth or one of the Hyper Zoanoid Team 5. Though one would be under commander Guyot and may even be a cross with Enzyne, and the other would be under Dr Balcus (? name spelling not sure) and pending if he saved the data on Enzyne 1 and such used to make it. If so something nastier than Enzyne 1-3 could be created mixed with the hyper zoanoid team five and zerebubuth. But in the end what type of hyper zoanoid would he be and what would that trooper the guyver zoanoid do, still remain loyal or severe ties with Chronos? or become Sho's friend? Though one idea still bugs me a bit would be from the Guyver movie OVA "Out of Control" with the female version of Risker, Valcuria, I wonder what type of hyper zoanoid she would have been made into and then say bonding a Guyver unit during a find of another Relic in America before the incident in Japan. So Risker also being real as her and bonding G2 like normal but coming along before or after commander Guyot how would such a twist occur, was going to ask if there were a data file on a Guyver bonded hyper and there is one but that's Powered Zerebubuth and none of the other hyper zoanoid types. As I would ask what enhancements or improvements would there be in such bondings with these other hyper types? Quote
*zeo Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Note: Risker was already on his path to becoming a Hyper Zoanoid when he became Guyver 2, and each Hyper Zoanoid is custom designed and usually one of a kind, but it does not appear that Chronos zoaforms women. Balcus was even shocked to find out that Shizu was both a zoaformed and made into a Zoalord with telepathic power on par with himself. Remember most of Chronos Zoalords are centuries old, long before modern women's rights movement changed the status quo. There are many possibilities to your questions, I'll wait and see what others think before providing my own analysis. Quote
Juggernought Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Here's what i think could happen in those scenarios: A) The zoanoid would have taken the unit back to Chronos for study as that was its original mission. B) If someone else finds it, more than likely Sho or Agito would try and find that person if they heard rumors about him. Certainly Agito would attempt to get this person on his side and manipulate him as he does with Sho. If one of Sho's friends got it, they probably would have teamed up and tried to put an end to the attacks sooner. Sho probably wouldn't have been as vulnerable as he was with just himself to protect his friends. But with that being said Chronos might have switched to more drastic measures by holding the remainder of their friends hostage or just try an all out onslaught in an attempt to capture at least one of the activated units. c) A Guyver Hyper Zoanoid II Risker would probably be one of those operatives who would have turned against Chronos for his own ambitions or at least try and become the main leader or one of the leaders. This would be the case of course after he defeated Guyver 1 and possibly Guyver 3 in an attempt to show his superiority. If the unit was damaged upon bonding i believe it would have malfunctioned far sooner than it did originally due to the higher levels of power from the host thus translating into higher power when bonded. This would give sho his chance at killing him in the same fashion as in the manga and anime. D) If the unit was undamaged and Risker activates it then he would have succeeded in killing Sho and more than likely Chronos would send him to apprehend Guyver 3. This would probably have taken the majority of his time and distract him from scheming for more power within Chronos. Risker was always a lone operative, he didn't work well in teams and he had intense rivalries with his peers. I'd say he would have been processed into a hyper zoanoid specifically designed for either close range combat or a brand new type that has yet to be introduced that doesn't need partners...it is also possible (just guessing) that he could have become a lost number with a variety of abilities adding to his unpredictability in the series...much like Aptom, but on his own different scale. I think the only thing the lost of data on Enzyme I did for Balcus was slow down his redevelopment of the original design...it could be seen that the Enzyme II was a superior model to the original so really the only thing Balcus would have been frustrated over was the time it took to recreate it and send it after the guyver. Also i think that it could have been possible that the Enzyme may have been planned to join the Hyper Zoanoid Team 5 after it proved incredibly effective over the guyver or to just mass produce them in their own squads of guyver hunters. All zoanoids are processed on a cellular level to obey and be loyal to chronos and its zoalords. To try and go against it would be like going against every instinct and your nature. Possessing a unit would free them of this control but at the same time, why would the guyver zoanoid leave when everything it knows and needs is in chronos? Power, prestige, are all there for the taking so why settle for meager things. If Risker got the guyver before he would have still been sent to Japan in order to deal with the guyvers regardless of Guyot being there or not, he was under direct orders from the other council members. Chronos probably would have kept Valcuria as a regular human operative, however they also could experiment and give her the honor of being the first female operative just to make her more controllable. (excluding the female characters in the first and second movies, i don't think it's canon anyway). A unit bonded to a hyper would just enhance the host ability to the highest potential it can. Their power would rival most zoalords.. Here's a question i was wondering about, how is it that creators bond the parasitic creatures to bio mechanical components...like the process. And to have the ability to create so much units they must have enslaved worlds where theses parasites originated from...?? Quote
Guyver_Astray Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Here's a question i was wondering about, how is it that creators bond the parasitic creatures to bio mechanical components...like the process. And to have the ability to create so much units they must have enslaved worlds where theses parasites originated from...?? I wonder what the parasites looked like without the components. Quote
Juggernought Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Since there are individual units, i envisioned them as being similar in kind to the symbiots from the marvel universe...much like venom in the original "goo" form. but of course they would look different, perhaps starfish/squid like in appearance and mannerisms just surviving until a host is nearby to be bonded to. And they could reproduce via self replication. Since essentially all of them are the same with no difference until the creators get their hands on them and change them. But i do believe they also have some level of sentience, the guyvers can communicate via telepathy, whether or not this was introduced by the creators or it happens naturally is yet to be seen. Quote
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