Guyver Immortality

[exscaped_pyscho]

I was wondering how does the Guyver Immortality work? In the Fan Fictions Guyvers are said to age very little or not at all. Would the host of a Guyver unit age normally when unarmored and then revert to their previous biological age when they bio boosted again? Or would they simpley stop aging all together, rather they are bio boosted or not? It's been a question that's been nagging at me for awhile now. Any input on this subject would be appreciated.

[*zeo]

This has been asked before but unfortunately there really isn't an answer yet.

Theories range from the Guyver Unit constantly regenerating the host to the unit altering the host in such a way that they no longer age.

While others have debated what would happen if the host eventually died, which ended up suggesting the unit would prevent aging as part of preserving itself by keeping the host alive and healthy.

The idea that the unit may simply restore the host to the state they were in when they first bonded has also been thrown around, but it all is just speculation since neither of the Guyvers in the Manga have lived long enough to draw any conclusions yet.

There are many possibilities though so feel free to speculate.

I personally think the unit just prevents degeneration and so the host is free to grow up but won't grow old.

[Juggernought]

Do you think the organism realises that if it allows its host to age to full maturity it could have access to more bio energy? (such as the case of Sho who is still a teenager)

[*zeo]

Personally, I believe the unit already places the host into peak potential when it goes on the host. Which would explain why Sho seems to get the most height increase out of the three known hosts.

But the unit wasn't designed as a weapon, the CM itself is artificial creation of the Creators, and I doubt the Creators experimented on themselves. So that means it is unlikely that the CM would consider bio-energy potential.

However it may be programmed with a cut off for how long to allow the host to age, as extending ones life does make sense.

[exscaped_pyscho]

Here's a brain twister. What would happen to the Guyver unit if the host was allowed to age and die? Would the unit reconstruct the host essentially resurrecting them? Would it return to a dormant state awaiting a new host? Or would it simple cease to exist? There's also the possiblity it would continue to follow the host in the higher demension for the rest of time.

[sonarelite]

I have a couple of ideas about what would happen to the guyver unit,

Option A - If the host died then the unit would maybe cease to function as their is no bio energy coming from the host body. Or in GWOTG's site in one of the stories cant remember which, I remember Shendal ( The chick from the future ) saying that in her future when all guyvers were killed or destroyed that the warrior unit ( W'Kar ) killed itself and host. When its function was properly fullfilled.

Option B - The unit continuos to function like its in self defence mode protecting itself and its now dead host.

These are all I can think of for now, If I have more I'll post later.

[Juggernought]

Also in GWOTG, Necro W'kar is an example of the unit being active even though the host was dead. Since the dead body can no longer produce bio-energy it resorted to siphoning the energy that comes from freshly killed enemies. My reasoning as for the other units such as the regular and warrior units etc, either they'd develop a way of demerging from the host upon moment of death so they could rebond with another living being or they would "die" with the host and remain bonded just unable to be recalled from the boost dimension and the organisms remain dormant within the dead host's body until another factor such as the matrix or a unit remover recalls them.

Essenstially the guyver organims is geared to survival for as long as possible. So more than likely it would find a way to continue to exist.

[sonarelite]

Here's a thought the unit in the warrior guyver 2 universe story part 1 when the warrior guyver and the guyver US and the stephen cain of that universe and there squad found a crashed relic, warrior guyver + guyver US and stephen cain entered the relic those three found a dormant warrior guyver and the body of dead creator.

Maybe when a host is about to die the unit has a kind of self removal mechanism, like the unit is using a unit remover on itself before the host dies.

And before the unit can sustain any damage before the host dies.

[Takara]

Well this depends. If you mean, the host didn't have the unit active and was about to die, thus the unit removed itself, then... that wouldn't make much sense. When the unit is active, if the host dies it just regenerates them and brings them back to life. So if the host were dying, I'm sure if the unit did activate it would just save their life. So, as sonarelite did, I'll list what I think might happen.

Option A: The host dies but the unit doesn't stop functioning, because even without bio-energy from the host, which it doesn't draw upon when in the boost dimension, it still has the energy within HyperSpace to sustain itself.

Option B: The host dies and the unit auto-activates in recognition of one of its main directives; protect the life of the host. It would probably be a safety feature; if the host's life ends, or the signal from the 'Telepathy Growths' cuts out, the armor will activate in their last known coordinates.

This second one is what I personally believe would happen.

[sonarelite]

What I meant was that the unit was from the creator, that the creator was wearing that unit just before the creator died.

Who knows what happens when a creator dies I dont or I might have some idea like I said above the unit self removes itself from its creator host.

But I understand what was said above but we were I think talking about Human Guyver Immortality and not Creator Guyver Immortality.

As I understand creators are either small round metallic orb like beings, or as some like to think maybe like energy beings, using guyvers to themselves humanoid forms. So creator are immortal anyways with or without guyver units, unless the are killed.

As being humans we can be killed to easily.

These are my thoughts at present and can change later

[Juggernought]

I think the unit was still on the creator in that story. It was just as dead as its host. Something like this is also present in GWOTG. Some kind of disease affected units in a relic i believe and Greg got infected and was dying, even though he and the unit eventually recovered. I also think in the more continued and updated fics that Allen has, on Anubis' planet there were reported guyver corpse all over the place. Anubis must have found a way to halt their regenerative properties or caused something to affect the control medals themselves.

[exscaped_pyscho]

Although it wasn't explicitly discribed in the story, I just figured the Creator hadn't bonded to the unit yet and was trying to when he was killed. Otherwise the Warrior Unit would have regenerated the host, unless a unit remover had been added to the equation. But this always did leave the question, if he wasn't bonded to the unit how did he pilot the vessel? And if he wasn't piloting the vessel then who was? And where'd they go?

[McAvoy]

It is possible that, in the Warrior Guyver 2 universe, that Creator was not wearing the armor. Though unlikely considering how the Creators are in that universe. But on the other hand Creators are different than a human. It is possible that a fatal wound to them is a scratch to us in comparison. That like XT, when they are bonded they have two forms the unit has to regenerate. The Guyver armor itself, and the host, not total merger.

Of course that story was written ten years ago, with very limited knowledge on the subject.

[exscaped_pyscho]

It's also a possibility that the guyver units act like an aceaer on a creator. This would explain what happened to the pilot and how the creator war killed. Another possibility is that the ship was on a auto pilot like setting and the creator was unarmored, and his death was so sudden that the unit couldn't activate in time to preserve the host, thusly it was rendered dormant do to the death of it's host. Although I find it unlikely that this is the case. I think there is some other explenation that hasn't been thought of yet. Likewise I would also find it unlikely that Alkanphel had in his possession a Warrior Unit Remover, otherwise why would he have left the unit? Also why wouldn't the ship have been in his complete control if he had been in the command center? This is a real brain twister.