A Question about the Reaper

[Vengeance]

So I was bored and looked up some information about a Guyver that I personally like alot known as Reaper Guyver. Everything seemed the same as always until I clicked on his Creator Datafile and it listed him as a Eve Type Darmon Energy Battle Unit. Darmon? As in the evil crystal that made Jenny run a complete muck right?

Does this mean that the Reaper unit is based on what the Creators know of the Darmon Crystal or perhaps is this an attempt at harnessing its power? Im curious about the ties between this unit and the crystal. Any thoughts/help?

[Juggernought]

I think Darmon was an ancient being of great strength and incredibly dangerous...i believe even the creators feared it. More than likely his main power was energy draining and in a variety of forms and effects. Crystallite's crystal and the Reaper Guyver were all based off this power.

[sonarelite]

If you think about it the warrior guyver units have the darmon system as a backup incase their hyper space link's are down and broken, Just look at the life force guyver his HSL was broken so his unit went to the backup system which was the darmon system.

To survive for him he had to drain the life force from any living being. Im guessing the creators when they saw how it worked in the life force guyver they went and built more units with the darmon as either a backup or a main system component.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Just a little aside for you, sonarelite, right from the Life-Force Guyver's DF:

Description: The subject is a prototype Warrior Class Controller Unit, designed by the now deseased Creator Solom. The unit was the fourth attempt by Solom to create the ultimate Warrior Unit and combined the previous units, the Shadow Unit, Battle Unit and Turbo Unit, into one powerful unit type he called the "Warrior Unit". The subject was hoped to be the final step in Solom's Warrior Unit project, but it developed a serious flaw in a test against the Guyver Supreme. The Unit suffered a complete failure of the its HSL energy system. The Guyver Supreme, was a Test Unit that had faced the three previous Units and had managed to defeat all three in limited test combat. That was until this subject. Though the HSL system had failed. Solom had designed a backup energy system based on the Dark Being Darmon. Using this system, the Guyver Supreme was defeated when his energy was drained by the subject. The host then turned truly Guyver and went on the rampage. Stopped only by the power of Zeugma, with a specialized remover designed by Solom, who then recovered the Unit. It was then improved on for the final 5th generation unit, now called Warrior Guyver. Today this unit has returned and is acitve on the human world, Earth. This Unit is regarded as the final building step towards the Warrior Unit. Once its Remover is rediscovered, it is the priority of the Creator Empire to capture and study this subject and finally recover from the original loss of the Warrior Unit and the lose of it's Creator, Solom.

As you can see, you are mostly right, save for the fact that it was the failure of the HSL system in LFG that in turn allowed the Darmon draining system to activate to allow LFG to compensate for its lack of available power and energy reserves. Both WG and Assassin Guyver (Isis) were witnesses to its hunger and drive (ouch.)

As for what Juggs said about who and what Darmon actually was, we can only ponder and wait for an answer from Sully, Matt, and their pantheon from on high

[largo]

If you think about it the warrior guyver units have the darmon system as a backup incase their hyper space link's are down and broken, Just look at the life force guyver his HSL was broken so his unit went to the backup system which was the darmon system.

To survive for him he had to drain the life force from any living being. Im guessing the creators when they saw how it worked in the life force guyver they went and built more units with the darmon as either a backup or a main system component.

But what about WG when his HSL was down I wonder why his back up system didn't activate? Is it due to the damage his control medal received?

[OnyxPhoenix]

In WG's case, Largo, here's a passage from his DF:

-Another unique feature of this units special Control Medal type is its ability to handle damage. The Warrior Unit reverted to a power downed form while its Control Medal repaired itself from damages sustained seemingly from a power overload, in this form the Warrior Guyvers powers are reduced to the level of a standard Guyvers.

Just recall for a moment, WG's HSL never went off-line. It was his control medal reducing the number of functions it could do so that it could repair the damage that had been done to it by having to control all of that gravitational energy thrown at him from both the remaining Zoalords and the newly-made Guyvers. Although it is composed of 4 partial C-medals to form the more powerful parallel processing unit needed to control all of the abilities and power that WG has, it just barely held on to all that power given to WG, long enough for WG to give the Guyver Zoalord a taste of his own medicine, yeah, but it still left WG in bad shape from the power overload, as mentioned above. When he got back from Time War, he could not disengage the armor, and he was again powered down, with only one set of swords, and his shoulder guards were different, again noting the powered-down state. The HSL was probably working overtime to supply the energy needed to help with the repairs. I think WG was in that state for a few days, maybe a week, when Chronos caught him, and then, Cyber Guyver Green attacked him. During that fight, WG soon came back to full strength, and whupped CGG into oblivion, although he did cause G2 (a revived Risker) to gain his new speed and enhanced durability by accident when CGG's remnants landed on him, then merged with him moments later. That's my take on it. Drop some info if something clicks.

[McAvoy]

That's a good answer however you have to remember how the HSL works. The HSL in Warrior Guyver did not fail, but it was probably deactivated. Remember that the HSL system supplies energy to the unit with a top off point, something like a gas tank always being full. But if the control medal had a power overload, the conttrol medal couldn't handle the energies that was supplied to it, so it deactivated it until the control medal was back up and running.

Remember that the Warrior Guyver couldn't teleport nor could he use shielding and his regeneration was severely limited. So by that point, the Powered Down Warrior Guyver was at the power level of a normal Guyver, so that just the bio boost process and the bio energy reserves alone allowed Warrior Guyver to sustain the reduced power level.

There are theories that the great enemy of the Creators that rivaled the Guyver Zoalord is the Darmon energy being. This was mentioned around the same time the Life Force Guyver was introduced. Crystallite is an extreme version of both Reaper and Life Force Guyver. Imagine what a true Darmon being would be.

[exscaped_pyscho]

It is possible that instead of being completly shut down, the HSL was just powered down like the rest. Since WG was still on par with a regular guyver he was still being bio boosted to some extent. Without any type of HSL he would have fallen unconscious within a day being as a human can only withstand the bio boost process for so long without some other type of power enhancement coming in somewhere. It could have easily been a safe guard that prevented WG from teleporting. Maybe because the unit couldn't utilize that area of the control medal do to damage in that area or perhaps pathways leading in and out of the Bio Boost control area within the control medal? That would be my geuss.

Also from what I've gathered throughout the fics. Darmon is some uber being the Creator either made or found. I think, in my opinion, that mankind was an attempt to either counter Darmon or perhaps defend against another threat of that level. Also in All Things Change story line Cori hints that there is some super secret thingy hidden on earth that is incredible powerful or somehow dangerous. My guess is that's Darmon. Crystalite was mearly infected by a Darmon Crystal imagine what Darmon itself would be capable of. That is if Darmon is a singular being. Darmon could be the name of some other race, only the gods of the WG universe could tell.

Here's some further speculation from me. Darmon is ment to be the big baddy that WG goes up against for the final showdown before the Fics end. Like the Emperor in Return of the Jedi, only no Vader to throw this dude down a giant shaft. Hey I wonder is Jason will get to do the Jedi Ghost thing like Vader, Yoda, and Obiwan did....that'd be like so cool....I go into the girls locker room.........okay the geeky kid in me has been tied up and thrown back into his cage...sorry about that!

[McAvoy]

It is possible that the Darmon being may be the big and bad for the fic and possibly Alkanphel will join forces with Deadnought to help him out or something.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Very interesting theory, psycho. I'll keep it under my hat for further research (heh, heh, heh) in the future.

[Juggernought]

Or the unit could be drawing off jason's own bio energy and diverted the HSL to heal its damages. During this powered down period, jason still behaved as if he was like any normal human, the armor just happened to be on him with no gradual loss of energy.

[McAvoy]

Remember that he was as powerful as a normal Guyver when he was in that state. He had little to no shielding, no teleportation and his regeneration was severely limited. His HSL was powered down because of the fact that the control medal itself was damaged, without the copntrol medal working efficiently the HSL would probably have fried Jason.

The reason why he never went into Daromon mode was because this is a designed feature for the HSL to turn off in case the control medal was damaged or overloaded. Very much like it is a design feature if the HSL permemently fails the Darmon backup is activated.

[exscaped_pyscho]

Here's another thought. Resently I learned that the HSL is active while the host isn't bio boosted at all. This means that the main HSL within the CM could very well have been shut down while the CM underwent repairs; Leaving the host based HSL active and maintaining the power level of a regular guyver. Also the entire control medal could have been offline throughout the repair process, since the WG unit's also have various sub processors through out the bio armor itself.

So to break it down: The CM is completly offline while undergoing repairs, the bio boost process is active at the level of a standard guyver because of the host based HSL, and the armor remains stable because of the sub processors through out the unit preventing the armor from eating the host alive and going rogue.

Food for thought: Since the host never gets hungry or thirsty and doesn't physically tire even without the armor active the host would also possess unlimited stamina if they were to utilize an Aceare unit with their armor inactive (if that is even possible).