A Gigantic Question

[Shenzon]

I don't know if this question has come up before but, any science speculations on what would happen if a Gigantic unit was controlling a Relic while it was destroyed along with the Gigantic? Could it be possible for the Gigantic to come out in the end with a third control medal or maybe an even more powerful armor with a lot more durablility? I was thinking that it could be possible that if not a third control medal, that maybe his current two would find a way of integrating the armor of the new Relic into itself somehow.

I know this has never been brought up in the manga or anime so its all scientific speculations. Any curious ideas?

[McAvoy]

It's all speculation, though I personally believe with the third control medal layer already there on the main host control medal, it might make any additional control medal additions impossible. We do not know that the Navigation spheres can shange their shape or size, so this would be pure speculation.

However, if i were to guess if it was remotely possible, it could be that additional components could be added to the armor or the Gigantic unit self deactivates while the host unit creates a new second Gigantic armor.

[*zeo]

I would say no on the basis that the nature of the host CM link to the Relic CM is basically an extension of the host consciousness as the two Relic CM's link with the host CM. But this would prevent linking with more than one Relic set of CM's as then the host mind would be split between the two.

At the very least the link with the second Relic would be weaker.

We actually do know that Relic CM's can change form to an extent since we did see the two Relic CM's go back to back and merge together to form a single large two sided CM that then formed the Gigantic Cocoon.

Also the Relic CM that formed the Gigantic also didn't completely merge with the host CM, rather only enough of it seems to have been used to form the outer third ring of the Gigantic CM, which also shows a change in form, but the two Relic CM's were much larger.

Combined with the link with the Cocoon, which stays in hyper space when not in use, suggests the remainder of the Relic CM's reside inside the Cocoon and thus not all of it was needed to create the Gigantic. Though this last bit is speculation the fact the Cocoon can go back and forth from Hyper Space leaves little doubt that this is the case.

So any additional Relic CM's would basically be redundant and not add to the Gigantic. After all there is only one host mind for all of them to link to.

It could be for example that a Guyver may not be able to pilot a Relic while using the Gigantic, especially since we have seen the normal CM seems to need to expose itself when linking up with the Relic CM's. But it already does that when it links up with the Gigantic CM ring, so it can't extend any further.

However this is not to say the idea is impossible, just unlikely.

Creator technology is adaptable, being living technology does have its advantages after all. So there is a remote possibility that your idea could be possible but I think it would require quite a bit of will power from the host to pull it off.

But even if the Gigantic did manage to link up with another set of Relic CM's, they would most likely be used to form something else besides merging with the Gigantic.

Perhaps instead merging with the Cocoon to form a different type of Upgrade like personal ship instead of just a Cocoon as it is now?

[Shenzon]

What about instead of adding another Control Medal, the current Gigantic unit just absorbed the armor for a more powerful Gigantic Unit? Maybe increase the power of the shoulder pods, laser orbs, gravity abilities, or maybe just overall armor durability?

But what you said about the Control Medal being already extended Zeo1234, I completely forgot about that. So yeah, it would make sense if a host using the Gigantic couldn't connect with a Relic. But also like you said too, Creator Tech is adaptable and being living technology, who knows what would happen.

This was something that just popped into my mind as I was wondering when Dreadnought was merged with the Relic before Alkanphel destroyed it in Strange World.

[*zeo]

What about instead of adding another Control Medal, the current Gigantic unit just absorbed the armor for a more powerful Gigantic Unit?

Unit's conform to their specific design and specifications. For example when G1 absorbed the Rogue Clone Monster, despite the monster being larger than G1 and apparently strong enough to pin G1's arms the unit just slurped it up with zero net difference afterward.

So it wouldn't do any good to just absorb the mass of another Relic, besides it would probably need to merge with the Relic CM to encorporate the Relic organism just like it was done with the Gigantic.

Besides the Gigantic has already shown in the Manga that it can grow to about 60 meters tall, so there really isn't a need for something like that since the Gigantic can already enhance itself when needed.

[McAvoy]

I agree with zeo. The only way I could see something like that happening is if the Relic may have extra stuff the original one did not have. After all, everyone upgrades their stuff right? So it might add to that.

Or if you are dead set on it, you could make the Gigantic armor become even bigger to allow for additional stuff. Additional gravity orbs, head laser orbs, a bigger shoulder pod, maybe sort of connected in a way. also, a fourth ring. I was perosnally messing with the idea a long time ago, on a what if and if the Grakken could form a Gigantic cocoon. Fourth layered control medal, 20 feet tall, seven or eight hyper sensory orbs, huge hyper sensory spike, four gravity control orbs for each chest plate for a total of five. That sort of thing.

In the end it's all speculation, maybe we'll see something in the manga depending on what Agito plans on doing with the dead Relic's control medals.

[Aranor]

I agree, merging two of the same ship together will give you no advantage other than small differences within two. Spec wise if be of no advantage. However if the ship is different from the one the gigantic came from it might offer some advantage. For instance, Sho merging with the ancient relic, should he merge with a updated war ship might offer a new layer of strength. Or perhaps merging with a different form of ship, science vessel, scout ship, might be able to combine with the rest of the CM's speculated to reside within the coccoon to reform the gigantic. Making the third layer bigger with the two vessels combined. A scout ship might offer more or better senses. A science vessel perhaps the ability to grow new units. That would be something.

[McAvoy]

I agree with additional new technology from a state of the art vessel, even a scout/science vessel similar to the Relic the Gigantic armor was created, might add new weapons and abilities to the armor.

This is again all speculation, for all we know the Gigantic armor may be permanent.