Zagam Vs. Dreadnought

[Guest]

I was just wondering, does Dreadnought have any capabilities that would level the playing field between himself and Zagam?

[Sully]

Zagam = GWOTG character.....

Dreadnought = WG-Fic....

They would have to meet first and the fates prevent that. Since Dreadnought did live in the GWOTG for all of 2 stories before getting slapped around the place by Anubis guess away.

[Guest]

Understood sir.

Would anyone like to theorize?

[jedi-guyver]

Quantum time since Zagam cant use any time based attacks with the red matrix and quantum fusion because Dreaghnot could absorb him then destory himself, killing them both.

[Guest]

I'm inclined to agree. There's nothing else that can really happen. While quantum time & fusion would be affective arn't these abilitys affected by proximity to a W'kar element?

If not would the red matrix cause a problem with the fusion?

[*zeo]

Basically the Matrix has trouble working within proximity to the W'Kar element because of the intense multi-dimensional energy disrupts the Matrix quantum energy field. But neither Zagam nor the Red Matrix posses a W'Kar Element.

Btw, just a hint but try comparing Zagam's and Dreadnought's DF's and seeing how they differ before theorizing how they could fight each other.

I.E.> The rules for fusion for one.

Also quantum time is not the only difference

[Guest]

So we overlooked quantum reflection? Because everything else I've read paints a picture that Dreadnought wouldn't survive. Also would Zagam's "DIMENSIONAL MAELTROM" produce a similar effect as the energy given off by the W'kar element for disrupting the blue matrix?

[jedi-guyver]

Dreadnought could use Quantum reflection, then the duplicate could fuse with Zagam. Then when the duplicate ceased to be so would Zagam

[Kaiser Dragoon]

Dreadnought could use Quantum reflection, then the duplicate could fuse with Zagam. Then when the duplicate ceased to be so would Zagam

Interesting concept, I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it'll be put into use sometime in the future....

[*zeo]

Not likely since Zagam and Dreadnought are not likely to meet any time soon. Remember they exist in two seperate fics that operate independantly from each other. I'm only entertaining this debate under a what if category since so many readers are wondering about it.

But you are still missing stuff from the Data File. Nice idea though jedi-guyver but you're not paying attention to the rules of quantum fusion. Read between the lines.

As for the Dimensional Maeltrom attack, it would not effect the Matrix powers like the W'Kar element. The attack is simply as it is described in Zagam's data file. This by no means Dreadnought would not need to dodge that attack right quick cause nothing short of his top shielding could protect him from it but that's better than most characters in the fic since few can shield against a dimensional attack.

[Guest]

"Quantum Fusion: Subject can use his Matrix to temporarily transform a being into their quintessential essence and thus absorb that being into himself, adding that being's powers and abilities to his own. This allows subject to bypass his own limitations but can only use this ability for up to 15 minutes before the fusion destabilizes and the being returns to its original state. This ability can also be combined with power boost to maximize effect. The subject can also experience a partial increase to his own bio-boost power if fusion occurs with a genetically compatible being. "

Am I supposed to infer that either Zagam's Red Matrix can prevent the transformation into his quintissential essence, or that Zagam's Matrix and Lycanlord DNA would make a fusion incompatable?

[*zeo]

This was noted in a previous topic, and should come at no surprise that beings close to Dreadnought's own power can resist the process. None of his abilities are without limits after all. Zagam is beyond Dreadnought's power so would have to be tricked into allowing fusion for that idea to work, which is not even remotely likely.

[Guest]

NO way! I thought dreadnought was the most powerful guyver.Is it because zagam's red matrix is more superior than that of dreadnought 's or was his armour created to surpase dreadnought's abilities?

[McAvoy]

Zagam used to be Dreadnought and he is beyond that of Dreadnought. So in some sort of twiested way Dreadnought could be considered the most powerful Guyver. Though right now Anubis holds that title.

Zagam possesses Lycanlord blood which IMO is like a Zoaform, so it increases Zagam's human form's bio energy level. The Red Matrix has it's own energy source, but has a few limitations. Whereas the Blue Matrix possesses no energy source though it can use outside energy sources, and the only limitation is that it can not work near a W'Kar element and it's limited by the amount of energy it can use at any given time.

[*zeo]

NO way! I thought dreadnought was the most powerful guyver.Is it because zagam's red matrix is more superior than that of dreadnought 's or was his armour created to surpase dreadnought's abilities?

McAvoy is correct, please read the Data Files. It is fairly obvious Zagam is more powerful despite the loss of a few abilities.

[Guest]

Thanks for leading me in the right direction Zeo.