Toku Warrior

Trust me dude, that's been noticed and discussed ever since the episode that sword was used up until the end of the series. Actually, neither the Decade summoned Emperor Kiva not the Prince Wataru Kiva had to use the pump action in the Decade series. Anyone else but me notice this one little thing with Kiva in KR Decade? In World Arc 2, Kiva's World, Kiva didn't have the Zanvat Sword but in the the 14th world arc, Rider Taisen World, Kiva had the Zanvat sword. Anyone else notice that little missed concept?

It's a good marketing strategy and it looks cool in kids eyes.

Let's see: To try and copy their Rider powers To possibly brainwash them and make them serve Daishocker Torture them just because they resisted Daishockers rule Keep them alive as possible food sources for their Kaijin army or as test dummies for new Kaijin forms Something like that.

Decade can be but he doesn't always use another Riders' powers or forms unless he really has to....or unless he just needs to really prove a point. He fights a lot of his battles in his own form until he needs to switch tactics. As for Kiva, yes and no. Yes because he has 5 other power up forms besides his standard suit but for Garulu, Basshaa and Dogga, the Arms Monsters are more in control of the fight as their spirits are infused into Watarus' body. If anything, Wataru overly abuses Emperor form. I was always wishing they would have used the Emperor Bat more than they did and I do agree with you about the Zanvat Sword. I think Kiva was the only Rider besides Hibiki (I think, someone correct me if I'm wrong) in the Heisei era who had a monstrous form that he could use in battle. I don't count Shin from the Showa era as he is a monster Rider.

That might be a fun idea. When Ryoutarou and Wataru piss off Kero, Neos holds him back and vice-versa. That sounds really fun.

All 4 of them are pretty calm minded in tough situations though Neos is usually the first to lose his temper. Though he's not as snappy as Kero might be.

Well, I liked both the Kabuto and Den-O series to an extent but I will say this. Both Kabuto and Den-O are power-up whores in the rider world.

Ok, Spectre, once I finish the chapter I'll post it so you can add that part then Tales can do the usual edits from there. Tales, just make that stuff into a side chapter that can be placed between World Arc 1 and World Arc 2. This way, people can read the Prologue, Arc 1 and Side Chapter 1 before we get to Arc 2. You already know the basic jist on how Shadow, Ghoul and Magnus act by having read their stories. Use them in that side story as needed. Let me know if ya need any info for Neos to help ya with it.

Actually, to my knowledge, I think it's between both Blade and DiEnd. DiEnd is always one step ahead of his opponent but he gets over confident a lot so it's a 50/50 shot with him. He did do a good job at getting a one up on Jyumenki and taking his Gaga Armlet away from him. Blade was clever yet stupid by

Spectre, I think we should just keep basic talk about the chapters in this thread and move things that don't particulary pertain to the chapters, such as discussions of villains and the cards, to other threads. Make a thread for Daishocker discussion and then a thread for random info.

not all the power ups come from the sky. Take Blade for example. He had to use things created for his basic Rider system just to draw out the power of the cards and upgrade his suit. the only Riders to get power ups from the sky are really just Kabuto and.....well, just Kabuto. Den-O's powerups come in the forms of add-ons for the Liner Belt. Not sure with Hibiki. Kiva, Kivat and Tetsulot are living entities which help in his transformation. Agito, his powers are granted to him by his sheer will and with the help of the Overlord of Light. Kuuga, he just evolves as he gets better. Faiz, technology that he carries in briefcases. Remember Tales, a lot of us watch the Heisei series carefully so if you make a point on one thing people will pick it apart and make sure to counter your points with their own. I'm not meaning any disrespect but as you protect those that are the Showa Riders I protect the Heisei Riders as I'm more familiar with them than I am with the Showa's. Of course, this debate can be considered biased in anyones view as people like things that others don't and hate things that others do. In a way I'm like Ryuki, I can't stand to watch a lot fo the older series from that timeframe.

Yeah, they're mainly set for CH.3. They're the same as the ones I posted a long while back but just edited with the man boss not being a evil Kiva. It'll be something slightly different. Once I get to CH.4 I'll do more planning as I want to be sure I can end CH.3 properly to make it transition into CH.4 without any problem. Of course, I can't remember what world is set after Shadow's. Which world is set for World 2?

Yes, you'd be correct on that Durendal. Spectre - Good point. Very true and I can't believe that part slipped my mind.

Make a seperate thread for the Daishocker issue. I also won't be releasing CH.3 in 2 parts but as 1 single chapter. Nearing the Shadow World entry but I won't be doing anymore writing until tomorrow.

Ok, just saying that it's focused on a Japanese person isn't fully correct. It has nothing to do with a single nationality or country. Yes, Kamen Rider is from Japan but it takes a few things from a lot of other different cultures when going through its story. Kiva is not mimicing the Japanese as a whole, he's mimicing a small portion of HUMANITY as a whole, not just a single nationality. I can understand that he reminds you of a way that you used to be and you don't like that but that's saying you hate every single person in the world that is like that. Every person is different and each individule can only take so much mental truama and stress before the snap and have a complete break down. Every Rider series of the Heisei Era has allowed a main Rider to take on the persona of a lot of different stereotypes that people find themselves labeled as. The original Kuuga was and Agito were kind and caring people who fouoght for others and note themselves. Ryuki fought to stop the fighting, he was basically a pacifist in a way but not a total one in the sense that he wouildn't fight unless he actually had to in order to protect the innocent or another Rider from a wrongful attack. Faiz and Decade are both pricks but have geniun hearts. their rough outer exterior hides a more nobel side of their persona. Typical common city person in some ways. Can't really talk about Hibiki as I have not watched that series. Kabuto was the stuck up asshole who had good intentions but had a hard time showing his true feelings to someone. He believed he was better. A type of aristocrat. Blade personafies the gullable yet determined person. Someone who believes in people and that can lead to his downfall but he still gives every person the benefit of the dought. Den-O and Kiva are both timid people but their true strength comes from the moment when they are truely needed most. Den-O suffers from bad luck or he is just never in the right place at the right time. This is why he lack maturity which he later developes. Kiva is more of the anit-social hero as he doesn't like to be around people for afraid of not being accepted and being hurt. He does get over this in the end and continues on with being shy and timid but not as bad as he used to be.

I think what Ryuki was getting at about Wataru as a character is that he represents a small portion of humanity. The kind that just breaks down and and acts in ways that they think might be better if they weren't there. That's why Wataru went back. He thought if he wasn't around then none of what had currently happened (Mio's death, Taiga wanting to kill him, Mio even becoming the next Fangire Queen & Kengo's persona change) would not have happened. His intentions were at first the cowards way but after meeting his parents and having Otoya literally verbally knock some sense in him by sacrificing himself for Maya by reducing his own lifespan by using Kivat's father and the Dark Kiva suit, Wataru changed and realized the errors of his previous decisions. I'm not making excuses for Wataru but I'm clearly pointing out a fact that some people may not clearly realize the aspects of his outcasted life as a Fandiri and being a Fandiri Rider. He was basically the worst kind of person life has to offer in being a total recluse but even a total recluse has at least a couple of friends. A recluse, given the chance, can do great things. The only major drawback on Kiva itself is what Durendal pointed out with the series' poor writing of the characters. Jirou and Otoya were actually the best characters as in 1986 it was still the Showa Era. This being made clear, men of their calibur were slightly more arrogant (which is portrayed by Jirous attitude most of the time). So all-n-all with Wataru: Beginning of series - total useless wimp middle of series - a more reliable person near the end of the series - back to being a wimp and basically a coward just before the end of the series - Otoya helps Wataru realize the truth about life, returing Wataru back to his reliable self end of series - Wataru is still slightly timid but he's more reliable than what he used to be

WARNING - THIS POST MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR PAST SERIES Well Ryoutarou always had badluck so he never got into many long lasting friendships which means less room to grow (note that I'm going by character-wise and note by story written-wise). Even though it takes him literaly the whole series, he does indeed mature and even goes as far as to learn to fight on his own without Momo-tachi so as to protect them from fading away. This led to Momotarous showing him how to use a sword. Indeed, Kotarou, his grandson and the New Den-O, is more mature acting than he is but he hasn't gone through nearly as much as Ryoutarou has. Don't get me wrong, I like the Den-O series but it's note in my fav 4 of Heisei Era series. Now for Kiva. Wataru always lived a secluded life style which only gained him one friend in Shizuka. Later in the series though he does mature and does tend to try and fight without summoning the Kiva suit until he gets to a point he knows he'll need it. Adding Kengo, Megumi and Keisuke as his friends throughtout the series also helps him. Of course, nothing helps one mature like loosing a friend which is what happened when Kengo found out that Wataru lied to him. The main drawback is that after Bishop made his dormant Fangire blood go wild, thus making Kiva Emperor go sadisitic on both Megumi and Keisuke, caused him to revert to his anti-social ways. Now he did get his maturity back once Otoya finally got through that thick head of his (yes, going back in time to erase yourself is a stupid thing to do and it slightly ruined Kiva's popularity). In the end of the series, more like the final 4 episodes, Wataru really shined as a Rider. The thing is with both the series of Den-O and Kiva, the sub-Riders (IXA, Saga, Dark Kiva, Zeronos, Gaoh and New Den-O) were given the mature manly feeling from the get go but we got to see their softer sides as the series progressed (with the exception of Gaoh as he was just a straight out dick and killed anyone he wanted). Now here's something else, the Heisei Riders tend to have one thing in common with the Showa Riders, half of them are actually from their enemy lines. The Showa Riders were all Cyborgs. Well most of the Heisei Rider were either monsters, evolved humans or ordinary humans. Kuuga - Ordinary human who used the Arcle Agito - Ordinary human who evolved into the next step of human evolution, Agito Ryuki - Ordinary human that fought other worldly monsters that came from a girls imagination Faiz - A monster that rebeled against his kind, being that they were humanities next evolutionary step, and fought to protect humanity Blade - Ordianry human who, at the end, became the one thing he was fighting against to save his friend and humanity Hibiki - a human who became an oni Kabuto - A human with a scientific Rider system created by aliens Den-O - a time traveling Rider who uses futuristic technology and his own special status as a singularity point to fight Imagine, using 5 to take on 5 laternate forms Kiva - A human/fangire half-breed who fought both humans and fangires alike to save both Decade - a human who uses the powers of the previous 9 to save both their worlds and his own I've run out of time so can the admins check this post and make sure to fix it as I'm getting kicked off the computer again for the rest of the day.

True, I really only take so long as I said that I want it to come out good but I also must wrestle control of my computer from my family as my computer is faster than theirs is so they use mine more and usually keep the internet on it. With the internet on my comp, I have to constantly give up control periodically. I'll be in the middle of working on a project and then right when I'm in the middle of getting to a good part that will take time to complete my step-dad will come in and kick me off for hours on end just to go on Face Book or check up on sports scores. And this is when I only have 2-3 hours before I have to go to work. I'm getting to the point of only putting the internet in my room in the early morning hours and in the late evening....around 2-4 hours at a time before I go to bed or for a couple of hours after I get home in the morning from work. This way I can work undisturbed by their kicking me off. Anyway, my rant is done....going back to work on CH.3.

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Ok, it's time for an update. CH.3 (A.K.A. Episode 2) is now at the point where Tsukasa is with Goro in Goro's world viewer. So I'm almost at the point where Tsukasa is almost about to enter Shadow's world. Once I get to Shadow's world I'll make another update. I'm taking this chapter much slower that the other two as I want it to be good so I have to think of good filler descriptions that go between planned points.....like i did with CH.2.

That's be a good idea. Also, I was rewatching some of the press conference that they had for KR Decade's promotion and I remeber one of the exec's saying that Ishimori-san once said that "Kamen Rider is a hero that changes with the era's, so it will never die." That being said it makes me think not so harshly on the Heisei Riders as they are Riders meant more for today's viewer than those of the our older generation. By saying that none of the Riders of the Heisei era are strong like those of the Showa, calling them a bunch of girly men, it can be seen as a bit biased in ones view. Maybe the actors chosen now-a-days don't mind the roles as they watched the older shows when they were kids themselve. It's the older actors that may not want to come onto the series because they might feel it's to low for their acting pool record, maybe they never liked the Rider series to begin with, or maybe something entirely different. No offense Tales, but to say the Showa Riders are 'men' who look down upon the 'girly men' which are the Heisei Riders is, to me at least, slightly biased. It is your opinion which you are entitled to but putting it like that can be a little harsh. Just because a series of a certain genre that you used to watch isn't like it used to be is not reason to say that the older heroes look down upon the newer ones. The series as a whole has just changed with the times to meet the newer audience's demands and taste in the type of hero. It could be said that the newer era of Rider is more like the Western version of a hero as American children like flashy things and most Japanese kids also seem to follow this slight trend. The older Rider wasn't as nearly as flashy but it could be considered more 'kiddy' with some of its story lines yet so can the newer Rider with their power ups and special effects. I mean no argument to start but this is something I just finally realized. Whether a Japanese person feels this way or views this topic in a totally different manner is just that, it's up to the person. You are right in that we definitely need more than just one Japanese person to reply to those questions so that we could have a more widened view on it.

Where'd you hear that at? I'd like to know where you got that tidbit from.

I think it is from what I can tell. There's only 1 more episode to the series so unless Toei pulls a rabbit out of their ass then it may just be a movie only form.....like how it's being shown that KR Kivala may only be a series ending form.

I actually like the design for the KR Kivala suit. It's meant to be more feminine so maybe her powers and abilities are more like those of the Showa Riders and she will rely on melee combat skills instead of external weapons like the Heisei Riders depend on a lot of the time. Besides, it looks like it's a one time Rider thing so we may never see KR Kivala again. But it also looks like almost all of the original Heisei Rider actors are returning for the series finale. We already have Kenzaki and Wataru (original) and you know Momotarous is gonna come back one last time. The original Kuuga ain't coming back as Yuusuke is still there. Now all we need is the original Hibiki, Takumi, Shouichi, Tendou and Kidou to come back and it'd almost be perfect.

Well of course it does. It is done like the monsters are from the Showa series....that or the monster artists are running out of ideas.