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i guess they don't call it gigantic for nothing.

I understand but the fact is if the language center is destroyed most likely your conscious mind would follow. All your examples point to the fact that each person language center is still intact. A blind, deaf and mute person can be self aware? Yes they all still have function language center that allow them to communicate with other people through any means that they a taught IE brail and sign language. When you interface with your conscious is it not a voice, in whatever language you speak, in which you communicate and internalize whatever it is you are thinking. I did not say the CM could not store short term memory I said it has a hard time doing so. When Sho had his CM ripped out he could not readily remember what had happen to him. The case with his father is similar brain destroyed CM took control killed father. Sho regain consciousness didn’t really understand what had happen, the emotional trauma came from the his and the CM inability to piece together the bits of short term information that were floating around. So with verbal assistance from aptom his brain was able to reconstruct a the bit of information implanted by the CM upon regeneration of his brain.

"Consciousness means the possibility of reporting one’s experience and of co-operating with other people. Consciousness is common knowledge; when being conscious I can share my experiences with other people, and be convinced that the others understand what I say. In fact, even the word consciousness has its origin in Latin words “con” and “scire”, the former one having the meaning of “together” and the latter one “to know”, it is: to know together. However, if consciousness was only individually present and a private faculty, how might then the sharing of experience and common knowledge be possible" As for sperated hemisphere, most corpus callosotomy patients in a sense do have two minds due the lack of data tranfer between both hemispheres. However they are still able to communicate their feelings and thoughts with others. Babies are hard wired for speech and it may come as no surprise why child, who are for all intincive perposeis "normal", can pick up a language or languages easy. However until a child can understand and precieve itself as being consicense through the sharing of information via language with others; it is no surprise that most humans cannot remember past 3-4 years of age. As for the CM I believe that it stores or maps all LONG TERM by recording all host neural connections from long-term potentiation (LTP) or as I Have dubbed it LTP mapping. LTP mapping is the CM recording the chemical strength of all the neural synapses in the brain, which occur when a memory is stored long term. It also updates or records new ones each bio boosting. The fact that a Guyver host has a hard time remembering their own death or whenever they suffer damage to the brain means that the CM has a difficult time storing short term memory. As for wanted a G-unit i would only want the one i dreamed up in my fan fic(when i'm done i'll post it; i did a Lucas and wrote it from the end to begining ). However a point you guys forgot was with a G unit come all the bad stuff like chronos and them killing your family or friends or making you kill them. If i would have to endure such pain i in order to get a Guyver unit i say no. However if there was a Chronos i this world and i had to fight i would say yes.

Hey Guys i just like to Say i'm back.....been a while hey Zeo i see you still here debating and such. Hope we can still debate like we use too . By the way what happen to all the old threads i was looking for them where i posted and they are all gone. On this topic I would just like to add that what we perceive as human conscious can be routed back to the language center of the human brain. More than likely if someone were to destroy or damage the left hemisphere of your brain; your human consciousness would be severely damaged or completely eliminated.

I feel that Warrior Guyver Vamore should not have the power level that he apparently has (this is from information that I had written for a previous topic discussing BEP (Bio-energy potential) and APP (Applied Power potential). The reason being we all know that a Low Level (non-hyper) zoanoid is Stronger than a human this is why. For Zoanoid to transform into a Zoanoid the BEP must be tapped in order to initiate and sustain the Transformation of the zoinoid, this is all a result of the zoanoid processing procedure along with the Genetic code that will define the type of low-level zoanoid to be created. When a Human begins the transformation into a Low level Zoaniod the BEP or Bio-energy is partial drained to initiate the transformation (can be seen by the Glowing eyes or the Glow of bio-energy off the subject) once the transformation is complete the subject has substantially grown in size. The size is the Key to the Low Level Zoanoid. Due to the size increase, muscle mass is also increased which produces the Low Level Zoanoid power which is approximately 15-25 men, so though the genetic manipulation and the ability to Tap the Host BEP the transformation can be achieved and sustain. Low Level Zoanoid do not have APP, which is used to produce and fire Bio-weapons. Low Level Zoanoids that have Bio weapons are the result of a chemical reaction though the manipulation of the genetic code of that Zoanoid Class and any other weapons the Zoanoid may have are only added appendices used to impale a enemy and this is because of the genetics not Bio-energy. Now when a Human is Bio-boosted (key word BIO-BOOSTED) the BEP or bio-energy is not used to initiate or sustain transformation into the Guyver, it does what its secondary name implies, it BIO-BOOSTS the BEP and also unlocks the APP. The unit magnifies the BEP (bio-energy) to produce the unit inherent physical strength. The Guyver also uses the APP but the APP is a direct a affect of the BEP so the Guyvers APP is also Multiplied but the APP alone is not enough to produce a bio weapon even though this is enhanced by the Guyver unit. To produce the Energy needed there is a need for the Bio-weapon component such as infrared laser Orbs, gravity Orbs and mega-smashers, these components manipulate and magnifies the APP energy to the specific use of that component, this is how the Guyver can use its Bio-weapons but the bio-technology though what this is achieve is unknown to us. When a Low Level zoanoid attempts to bio-boost the zoanoid will undoubtedly will be stronger than any low level zoanoid but not stronger than a standard Guyver. The reason being is that when bio boosting as a zoanoid form the BEP is being used to initiate and sustain the transformation of the zoanoid thus his BEP is lower than a normally human (almost half but not for sure on how much is really left). This results in a weaker Guyver because Guyver strength is all base a pond the BEP of the Host, in other words the Guyver has less to work with. The Zoanoid would be better off if he or she bio-boosted as a human. I f you think other wise answer back.

Maybe Sean was just a schizophrenic and he had a side that wanted to just kill people and was in denial so he used that unit as a scapegoat

sounds like another good one Sully!!!!

If that was so the sensor orbs would be stationary and would not need to move to detect a object.

Interesting theory, still when the Host is conscious the Guyver eye plates are the primary visual sense. While sensor orbs help the host detect what the host cannot see. If what u say is true, the host sensor orbs would never have to swivel because he/she would always have an exact positions of everything around him/her at all times within the limitations of the Sensor orbs. Now when the host is unconscious and the unit is in self-defense mode, the Control medal uses the sensor Orbs to give the Control medal its Visual perception. Prime ex. When Sho was fighting his father his eye plates were melted leaving him nearly blind, than his brain was destroyed. So the possibility of the unit using the host own eyes was impossible. Still the unit knew exactly where EnzymeII was during the rest of the fight. One more ex. Is when GuyverI and GuyverIII had there little test of strength at chronos Japan. When Sho woke up his vision was like, he had just opened his eyes after being asleep. Hope this answers your Question

I don't get what your trying to say because the zoalord that became the Guyver zoalord was infact created by the creators. Also this Zoalord was sort of a low level zoalord nothing on the scale of Zeugma and kron.

Well I was not a part of this forum when you guys discussed this but for the most part I was right on my estimate that I made but I thought that Alk fully healed was 30x, not 40x (But like I said Dread did have to power boost to fight him in the alternate universe). Well what I'm getting at is Dreadnought could never hope to beat him if that was to happen nor could the Creators.

well it was a little estimate on what we know about the guyver zoalord. Just read my first post of this topic

Ok i was right about two and pretty close on the other two. So if Alk got his hands a warrior unit what level would he be than is it 16000x????

I think your right Cause dreadnought did have to power boost to beat him in the alternate Universe when he was healed by the matrix.

ok So could someone Give me some Numbers to take a look at so we come up with a conclusion on what Warrior Guyver Alk would be?????

Look at some power levels: If the Guyver Zoalord was 200x than the zoalord before bonding with the unit was 2x. So if Zeugma and Kron made up for Alk and Zeugma is 22.5x than kron must had been around 7-8x(estimate). So fully healed Alk was around 30x full zoalord form. Now if a warrior unit was to bond with Alk it would fully heal him. We know a warrior unit boost around 4x whatever the host already has we are looking at a 12000x WG-Alk. Please correct if i'm wrong on this one.

Ummm..... are u reading the post... Our theory is that we are going with, is that the host personality dictates the unit's appearance so if Risker's unit looks evil and we know that Risker wasn't the statue of good will than the unit must have manifested this into the appearance of his unit

Because of where the swords are placed, the top one appears longer then the one below it, so if the bottom one misses by an inch, then the top one will fix that. Then theres always the fact that it could just be for appearance meant to make him look intimtating (Sp?) The reason I believe Sho has only one set is the fact that (If you look at it from the appearance side of things) is that he isn't meant to look intimtating. Then why would a Unit-G want to look intimidating if each unit is the same, This just leads me to believe that it is the personality of the host that affects the unit-G, Sho?s and Agito;s personalities are very different and each unit appearance fit's the both of them perfect.

Ok so does this dictate the placement or number of weapons ie. Vibration blade sonic emitters.

I have to disagree because the Dormant G unit itself is not specified to a class it was a mere space suit and psychic enhancer and on top of that the creator where not a military race, if that was the case they would not have developed zoanoids and Zoalords for a army to fight there wars

My theory is that the guyver different physical appearance is due to the personality and physical attibutes of the host, seeing how every dormant unit G is the same size and shape. please share your thoughts

No, Nova black does not posses the gravity draining shielding system. The reason being is that system was a last minute add on when creator Solom found on Hpa'Tus Vulcan ship during the Warrior and Nova Trials that the Nova black design was superior in strength and had greater gravitational force so he implemented that system as last ditch effort to protect his unit from the Immense gravitational power. So knowing this we can see that the Creator solom felt that strength wasn't everything but that a good defense is the best Offence.

I agree. we know that Humans only use about 10% of their brains so i see the Guyvers as Keys to unlock the potential of itz host and even more so with warrior Guyvers the Creator made them to amplife their physic power so the same goes for a human it can unlock that hiden power. Now whether they have discover this ability is another story