Guyver unit cure the host of sickness?

[H222G981]

So, is the host even capable of getting sick?

 

If the host did get sick wouldn't the unit, when summoned.... purge what ever is ailing the host from their body? 

 

So if Agito or Sho somehow got sick with flu or Ebola. The unit would cure it almost immediately?....or are they 100% immune to disease as a side effect of already sharing a symbiotic bond with the unit?

Edited October 14, 2015 by ixtli

[RazorLaser]

The Guyver will cure/regenerate/repair the host in anyway AFTER activation.

 

If the host has previous injuries (scars for example, as seen in the 2005 series) the Guyver won't be able to repair that.

 

I remember there was an old thread about a host having cancer prior to activating a Guyver unit. Can't remember exactly what the conclusion was.

[Guyver0]

Yeah, I had posted the topic years ago that if someone had a prior ailment when they bioboosted for the first time, would it heal them?

I think the overall conclusion was no, but it would prevent it from worsening, however some made the argument that if the unit continuously repaired the damage that it would eventually recognize it as a threat and remove it.

[Cannibal]

My opinion is that the Control Metal is "smarter" than the human brain, because it can "store" the human brain inside. I think that the Control Metal will do whatever is better for the host. After the first bioboost It will not heal the scar, but will heal the broken bone (if that Control Metal will consider that the scar is OK for the host).

Edited October 16, 2015 by Cannibal

[The Crimson Guyver]

Yeah scars aren't that troublesome for the host, there is no risk to the host's life from the scars. But anything that is a life threatening matter the Control Metal will take things into its own "hands" as it were. It definitely enhances the muscles of the host. Look at how Sho changed in his physique over the years hes had his Unit. At first he was his scrawny teenage self and then later on he is all defined muscle. Even without putting on the armor for the rest of his life, his body has to be in such peak condition he could easily live to be over 100 years old.
But part of me thinks with the Bio Boosted armor a host can live for indefinitely.

[Sully]

Yeah scars aren't that troublesome for the host, there is no risk to the host's life from the scars. But anything that is a life threatening matter the Control Metal will take things into its own "hands" as it were. It definitely enhances the muscles of the host. Look at how Sho changed in his physique over the years hes had his Unit. At first he was his scrawny teenage self and then later on he is all defined muscle. Even without putting on the armor for the rest of his life, his body has to be in such peak condition he could easily live to be over 100 years old.

But part of me thinks with the Bio Boosted armor a host can live for indefinitely.

 

It's not that the scars are troublesome but that the Unit bothered to keep them that is the problem for the theory a Guyver unit is a cure all ills device. It's like saying the Unit would regrow an arm of a host that wasn't there when originally scanned. The Unit is a general race device. Not designed to only look at human dna and a body and know "hmm this arm is missing, I better grow a new one for the host, it'll like that!". The Guyver Unit Control medal has never once shown that level of A.I..

 

Ultimately the Control Medal isn't the only data store. We know the Unit itself, the biomaterial can store memory (look how Sho's clone was able to find his school etc). So there is a level of gens storing memory there too.

 

Sho change of physique is something you can't say is down to the unit but more likely down to how Takaya changed his drawing style over the years. Look at the Guyver 2, then the Original Guyver 2 and how the art changed between the original first book and the reprint 15 years later. Sho visually hasn't turned from a kid to a strong man, the changes are very minor and go more in tune with Takaya's increased level of detail over the years.

 

The theory that a Guyver is immortal is that the host is always returned health wise back to the state the host originally was in and bothered to remember that the scar of a host was still there. Because if it bothered to do that when it's not important to the function of the host it pointed to the fact the host was scanned and it's not dependant on just cloning a host and putting a memory back up inside the newly cloned brain (if you were cloned there simply wouldn't be a scar, it's excess useless data effectively). Then you've the Uranus who came to earth and had very very long lives. The Unit G is also equally long lived so it's most likely the reason as an already bioengineered creature to be the reason for the long lives of the Uranus.

[Cay]

I think that as long as the sickness will damage the hosts body it will heal it. 

They should still be able to get sick though.

[Sully]

I think that as long as the sickness will damage the hosts body it will heal it. 

They should still be able to get sick though.

 

Are you sure the Unit would activate on an already sick host?

[Guyver0]

I think that as long as the sickness will damage the hosts body it will heal it. 

They should still be able to get sick though.

 

Are you sure the Unit would activate on an already sick host?

How is the unit to know if the host is sick?

[Sully]

 

 

I think that as long as the sickness will damage the hosts body it will heal it. 

They should still be able to get sick though.

 

Are you sure the Unit would activate on an already sick host?

How is the unit to know if the host is sick?

 

 

The Unit scans a host on merger. It is fact that the Unit-G was not designed to work on humans, we're just lucky of the affect it has on us vs everything else out there in the Guyver Universe. It was a general tool pre-dating Humanity and possibly all but the most basic life on Earth. 

 

The Uranus brought this tool to Earth which was common place throughout the "Federation". 

 

These are the basics we know from the translation of Book 15 thanks to the flashback Imakarum witnessed. 

 

The Unit-G is designed so that it scans the host, merges and enhances (bio-boost) them and it does this by scanning the host and reading their DNA. It has countless millions of years of development behind it and is capable of reproducing a hosts memory even after the brain is destroyed yet will regrow a host perfectly the way they were scar tissue and all. Takaya didn't put that in the comics without reason. It explains limitations as well as why it is a very powerful bio-armour.

 

At this point I'll stop, as sickness can mean anything from flu, the runs, to cancer. All are different and have different causes, but read the above and then explain to me why a Unit will do what you think.

[Guyver0]

 

 

 

I think that as long as the sickness will damage the hosts body it will heal it. 

They should still be able to get sick though.

 

Are you sure the Unit would activate on an already sick host?

How is the unit to know if the host is sick?

 

 

The Unit scans a host on merger. It is fact that the Unit-G was not designed to work on humans, we're just lucky of the affect it has on us vs everything else out there in the Guyver Universe. It was a general tool pre-dating Humanity and possibly all but the most basic life on Earth. 

 

The Uranus brought this tool to Earth which was common place throughout the "Federation". 

 

These are the basics we know from the translation of Book 15 thanks to the flashback Imakarum witnessed. 

 

The Unit-G is designed so that it scans the host, merges and enhances (bio-boost) them and it does this by scanning the host and reading their DNA. It has countless millions of years of development behind it and is capable of reproducing a hosts memory even after the brain is destroyed yet will regrow a host perfectly the way they were scar tissue and all. Takaya didn't put that in the comics without reason. It explains limitations as well as why it is a very powerful bio-armour.

 

At this point I'll stop, as sickness can mean anything from flu, the runs, to cancer. All are different and have different causes, but read the above and then explain to me why a Unit will do what you think.

 

I never claimed it could remove sickness or illness.  Was just curious if the unit was sentient enough to realize something that is a threat to the hosts health and if it would remove it on it's own in time.  Also, I do realize the unit scans it's host and makes the proper adjustments accordingly, but even if it found the flu or cancer, would it be able to discern this as being something harmful?

[Sully]

I never claimed it could remove sickness or illness.  Was just curious if the unit was sentient enough to realize something that is a threat to the hosts health and if it would remove it on it's own in time.  Also, I do realize the unit scans it's host and makes the proper adjustments accordingly, but even if it found the flu or cancer, would it be able to discern this as being something harmful?

 

 

If you're talking of Cancer that was already attacking the host before activation, then the unit cannot cure it. The most it can do is keep it at it's present state.

 

The Control Medal has never shown itself to be advanced enough to know what is efectively useless data. Scar tissue isn't important to the welbeing of the host yet it reporduced it. As such it will not remove something that is efectively made by the hosts own body as how will it know the differance? Flu on the other than is an invading virus, even if the Unit doesn't instant cure (remove it) it the hosts own defenses will.

 

This now is theory, but I don't think if a host had an aggressive cancer that the Unit wouldn't activate in the first place as the host would scan to be defective. On the other hand it is quite possible to say that the Unit would prevent a cancer from growing and quite possibly the Unit is also the key to the Uranus very long lives.

Edited October 25, 2015 by Sully