Question regarding Super Saiyan 3...

[*PrimalNemesis]

I have a question for the Advocacy in regards to Super Saiyan 3. With Goku achieving god form and the way it has affected his body do you suppose it could now be possible for him to finally be able to sustain Super Saiyan 3 without having his stamina being completely drained? Would his new divine ki have any impact on the form perhaps?

[Matt Bellamy]

It's too hard to say at this point.

 

I mean, the only references we have about "God Super Saiyan" (blue hair) is from the latest movie, and we don't know just how far he can go, since Goku is a bit of an idiot, and doesn't like to fight at full power.

 

We don't even know if he CAN go "God Super Saiyan 2", let alone "God Super Saiyan 3".

 

The only real reference to his power from the Frieza movie, is that his normal state seems to be equal to about when he first became a Super Saiyan to fight Frieza ( and not his power level when he fought Cell). We don't really know how exactly powerful his "God Super Saiyan" form is, nor how equal it is to any of his previous forms. He might now be like Gohan, in that he can't use his other forms anymore, but maybe doesn't even need to. We don't know.

 

And even then, Super Saiyan 3 was mostly used situation-ally. He never really got "Too Tired" from using it too much, even at full strength. Yes, it took him a while to transform into it when it was first showed off... But later was shown just popping right into it.

[Shin Mefilas]

I have a question for the Advocacy in regards to Super Saiyan 3. With Goku achieving god form and the way it has affected his body do you suppose it could now be possible for him to finally be able to sustain Super Saiyan 3 without having his stamina being completely drained? Would his new divine ki have any impact on the form perhaps?

Going by what I know its been stated that Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are the same as ascended and ultra forms (when Vegeta and Trunks bulked up) from the Cell saga. They are forced transformations, not natural ones like the normal super saiyan form. The down side of these forms is that your are literately forcing yourself to get stronger and in the process put more strain on your body. Super Saiyan 3 is the end result of that idea. It drastically increases Goku's power but at the same time requires 100% of his stamina to maintain it. It burns bright but also burns out rapidly. Simply put you can only achieve the form by going to the absolute limit. In the cannon using this form has as always drained Goku so completely that if he used it for to long in is mortal body he could be left powerless or pass out. Something that never happens with any other super saiyan forms. While he might be able to train to the point that he could spend more time in the form he can never master it (or SS2 for that matter) the same way he did with normal super saiyan. Its similer to Might Guy's Eight Gates or even the Kaio-Ken.

Going by what Akira Toriyama has said in interviews Goku is never going to use ether SS2 or 3 again after his fight with Beerus. They didnt really help much against Buu and they were useless against the God of Destruction. Akira Toriyama also stated that Goku was going to focus on mastering his normal super saiyan form farther. Which could mean that Goku is learning to access the power of his SS2 and 3 forms without the need to transform into them.

With the coming of his new Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form we will likely never see the old forms again. Just like Vegeta and Trunks's ascended forms from the Cell saga.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Sabbac

[*PrimalNemesis]

I have a question for the Advocacy in regards to Super Saiyan 3. With Goku achieving god form and the way it has affected his body do you suppose it could now be possible for him to finally be able to sustain Super Saiyan 3 without having his stamina being completely drained? Would his new divine ki have any impact on the form perhaps?

Going by what I know its been stated that Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are the same as ascended and ultra forms (when Vegeta and Trunks bulked up) from the Cell saga. They are forced transformations, not natural ones like the normal super saiyan form. The down side of these forms is that your are literately forcing yourself to get stronger and in the process put more strain on your body. Super Saiyan 3 is the end result of that idea. It drastically increases Goku's power but at the same time requires 100% of his stamina to maintain it. It burns bright but also burns out rapidly. Simply put you can only achieve the form by going to the absolute limit. In the cannon using this form has as always drained Goku so completely that if he used it for to long in is mortal body he could be left powerless or pass out. Something that never happens with any other super saiyan forms. While he might be able to train to the point that he could spend more time in the form he can never master it (or SS2 for that matter) the same way he did with normal super saiyan. Its similer to Might Guy's Eight Gates or even the Kaio-Ken.

Going by what Akira Toriyama has said in interviews Goku is never going to use ether SS2 or 3 again after his fight with Beerus. They didnt really help much against Buu and they were useless against the God of Destruction. Akira Toriyama also stated that Goku was going to focus on mastering his normal super saiyan form farther. Which could mean that Goku is learning to access the power of his SS2 and 3 forms without the need to transform into them.

With the coming of his new Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form we will likely never see the old forms again. Just like Vegeta and Trunks's ascended forms from the Cell saga.

Do you think Goku and Vegeta will achieve new godly forms eventually? Do you also think any other saiyans might be able to achieve god form in the future? I know super saiyan 4 is not a part of the official cannon, but do you think that hypothetically that Goku and Vegeta could combine their godly ki into those forms?

[Shin Mefilas]

Well unlike SS2 and 3 Super Saiyan 4 was a true natural transformation so its not unreasonable to think that if a saiyan had god ki that they could combine it with that form. New god forms are more then likely but who knows after they take on Frieza they are going to a whole new universe, anythings possible.

 

As for the other getting god forms? I have no idea poor Gohan has been on a downward slide since the Buu saga started and it dosent look like its going to let up. Goten and Trunks maybe but then they almost never take anything seriously.

[*ScottmanXIII]

I hope that after I have passed a few Dan grades my hair turns Gold and I aquire flight.

It the mean time I'll keep traning hard towards my 1st Dan :-)

[Shin Mefilas]

I hope that after I have passed a few Dan grades my hair turns Gold and I aquire flight.

It the mean time I'll keep traning hard towards my 1st Dan :-)

 

Sorry but that golden haired stuff is only for fighting mad alien monkey men and their half-human offspring. Flight however isent.

 

Good luck to you by the way.