Mirabilis Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Why do people suck so much at debating? I've learned to keep my mouth shut most of the time because people will attack you with an indignation and malice it's unreal! I mean, it's gotten to a point to where I can't even agree to disagree respectively, without people trying to make false accusations against me, borderline slander me, call me the worst names in the book and so on. When all I did was disagree. So I stopped engaging in debates for a long time, all it would turn into a name calling contest. However, recently many people have been posting things on my fb regarding how horrible a political party is. Today, I finally had it. Some of my fb friends were bashing one party while claiming there's to be perfect little intelligent enlightened angels. I am apart of neither party, and presented the idea that both might be biased and corrupt. I don't believe in the two party system, because in the end, you still end up with crap. Well, as you can imagine, that created a fire storm. I had four or five guys commenting on me, making fun of me, trolling me, accusing me of things and so on. I attempted to actually have a rational debate with them but this is how it went (and how it usually goes for me).I made a claim, and they wanted evidence to back up the claim. I made a slight correction in the claim as it was a generalization, and posted a video uploaded to YouTube as a quick and easy source for all. Immediately, I have them all over me, and the source is considered unacceptable to them. Well, I pointed out that if it was a video advocating their position it would be acceptable to them. They then proceeded to say "Yeah, because it's right". (I'm generalizing and paraphrasing here but that's pretty much what they said).So I then, provided 5 different internet sources, including several from pew research. Well, again those were dismissed because they didn't like the source, and didn't supply any reason or counter argument, just a "You're stupid, learn to debate, those sources are drenn!". Well, I then asked for a rebuttal, or for a counter argument and would be open to it. Got nothing, but more accusations, bullying and so on. I then provided two more sources, and the behavior continued. Till I finally gave up. They did nothing! They made fun of me, acted as if they were the most intelligent specimen in the planet, the greatest product of evolution.I mean, these guys even went into my FB page, and hunted down statuses from a year ago, copied it and printed it on the status, and made fun of me for my status! These guys were like 38-60 too! I couldn't believe it!I don't know. This is why I don't like debating with people that much; at least not my inferiors. I enjoy good debates, or conversations to expand my knowledge. Older people than me who have a lot to share. I like to see things from different perspectives and learn new point of views. I like people who can treat me like a human being and agree to disagree. But this...this whole "I'm right you're wrong, because I say so" crap. IT's getting out of hand. The worst part, is they accused me of not knowing how to debate, when I was the one providing all the sources, and info and they just dismissed it because it was convenient! 1 Quote
H222G981 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I agree....and I can relate. Kind of reminds me as of why I don't bother debating with anyone. I stay out of religious and political debates, racism, and sexual orientation. A lot of people can't see past their beliefs and opinions. When you don't share the same beliefs or opinion and there are 3-6 people that do. You become their punching bag and they verbally abuse you in the debate. Just something I've given up trying to do. People don't have that open mind like you and I do. 1 Quote
*Jess♥ Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I don't suck at debating. . . . you're wrong 100% and I'll never back down and won't even listen to anything you have to say about it. 1 Quote
Mirabilis Posted May 20, 2015 Author Posted May 20, 2015 lol You're one of the few people I actually enjoy discussing things with Ryuki! But here's an update on things and I'm not sure how to handle this. Like I mentioned above, some random person I don't even know, scrolled through my fb page (I didn't know it was open to public view) and screenshot a status of mine and posted it in the debate and proceeded to make fun of me. I reported it to FB as this really bothered me, but their system has no actual customer service or anything. Just a report feature and an auto response I guess. Well, they found nothing wrong with what the guy did, but I don't see how. That's my own personal stuff.I had to go back and reset all of my things. I don't know what to do now, and I really want that pic of me taking down. I don't get the report feature of FB. I mean, people report things all the time and it seems like they always get those things taken down, but any time I report something that seems like a legitimate issue, it's ignored. Does anyone know of any other way to go about this? Maybe call the authorities or something? I don't know, but like I said, this really upset me and bothered me, that a complete stranger would do that to me. Quote
H222G981 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I can empathize. I've been trolled and flamed on Facebook many times....which is why I don't have one anymore because I got tired of it. Did you block those people? Quote
*Jess♥ Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 a picture of you, is kind of like your intellectual property. it's your face. if you want it removed, they should remove it. keep reporting it to facebook until you get what you want. 2 Quote
Mirabilis Posted May 21, 2015 Author Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) No Jupiter I didn't, because I want to make sure that that screenshot of my status is removed before I do.I mean I'll keep reporting it, but won't fb just tell me the same thing? Would they really remove it if it's just me reporting it over and over again? Edited May 21, 2015 by Mirabilis Quote
H222G981 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 No Jupiter I didn't, because I want to make sure that that screenshot of my status is removed before I do.I mean I'll keep reporting it, but won't fb just tell me the same thing? Would they really remove it if it's just me reporting it over and over again? Like Yuki said. Just keep reporting it and giving them hell over it before they actually do something about it. I would give them hell and throw a bitch fit until they did something about it. I hope this gets resolved in the near future. Sounds like Facebook has gotten much worse since I shut mine down. No reasons to reactivate mine after hearing what you're going through. 1 Quote
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