A couple of Guyver questions, sciency stuff. I'd like to ask a couple of questions to get theories on them. I might ask these also on the general for

[*Chernaudi]

I'd like to ask a couple of questions to get theories on them.  There was some discussion in another topic about the aliens from Aliens and their acidic blood vs Guyvers, and I've always wondered that since in the Twilight Saga that vampire venom is supposed to be pretty acidic, what effect could it have on a Guyver or a zoanoid?  I know that if intro'd into a zoanoid, it'd probably kill them.  In Twilight, vampires and vampire hybrids have the ability to produce this venom.

 

Also, I wonder how powerful Gaster's plastic explosive stuff was.  This is sorta for my fan fic, because my character Camel can produce a plastic explosive that can be used like napalm or in projectiles, and it's 2-4 times more powerful than Gaster's stuff.

 

For reference, the RE factor of the following common conventional explosives compared to standard TNT are as follows.

 

Standard dynamite:  1.25

 

Gelignite (jellied dynamite):  Up to 1.6

 

RDX/Hexogen:  1.6

 

Nitropenta/PETN:  1.66

 

HMX/Octogen:  1.7

 

So compared to that, could we figure out how powerful Gaster's explosives were?

[*ScottmanXIII]

Big boom!?

[*Chernaudi]

There anything out there that stated how powerful those explosives were?  I haven't found anything on the subject anywhere I've looked.  Not even for Panadyne, who originally used the same explosives.

[*V Guyver]

Nope, we had math for elegan to some degree (how do you measure bio-electricity against regular? is it just the same but different source?) but gaster had no comparison, we just know how his process worked. Thancrux was the same principle as guyver's blades with advanced zoanoid muscles to help with his speed. While Derzerb was based around muscle and bone density, and his fire ability was not liquid based, but rather bodyheat based. 

Zxtole was the interesting one, he seemed he have advanced energy reserves for bio lasers and an emergency bio laser based on him absorbing heat and light from around him. I wonder if he restores his reserves over time simply by absorbing light and heat over time in regular forms.

Gastar, just what the heck is it with his compounds? they were most certainly hazardous as he had to keep them apart or they'd blow up, so they couldn't even be stored close to one another internally. 

[*Chernaudi]

So no info on the explosives that Gaster/Panadyne used?  So in my fan fic would I just have to say "2-4 times more powerful than that"?  I was also trying to compare that to something in real life to give a realistic gauge on it.  Could we maybe get an idea on that from stuff Panadyne or Gaster destroyed?  BTW, Camel's explosives are different, they're already mixed (aside from an igniter--within his body, the explosive is inert), and are much more powerful and versatile. 

 

Or how about the C-mode Libertus?  I don't think there's much data on their explosives either?

[*V Guyver]

Well in the case of Panadyne, similar to Gaster, two separate colored liquids combined for an explosion. Panadyne's attack only has a 2 US pints worth (946ml Metric) of liquid, but the explosive result seemed about as big as a mid sized apartment. 

Gaster's missiles actually have smaller explosions! But they are remote range guided weapons, so that makes sense. Also they likely have less liquids in them. But I bet that the destructive power the  his liquids when fired from his wrists are about as powerful if not more than Panadyne's. 

So what equals an apartment's worth of explosive material? 

[*Chernaudi]

3/4 or more of an apartment building in NYC was destroyed when members of the Weather Underground accidentally detonated dynamite when they were making nail bombs to be used in a terrorist attack. The bombs in question were concealed in 12 inch water pipes for transport and had several sticks of dynamite with nails packed around the bundles.

Also, in the Hyde Park bombing that the IRA did in 1982, a Morris Marina sedan had 25lbs of gelignite (jellied/plasticized dynamite, RE factor 1.6) with 30lbs of roofing nails packed in it's trunk. It destroyed or damaged everything in an area roughly the size of a soccer field.

So if Gaster's and Panadyne's explosives can do that much damage, and the Weather Underground nail bombs had maybe several pounds worth of dynamite in them, and 2 pints of explosives can do more damage than that, can we determine the RE factor of their liquid explosives from that?

[*V Guyver]

Yeah, if you can find the size explosion needed from TNT, you can pretty much do the math by explosion size/strength. There is a measuring chart for it. 

An example is in Nuclear Weapons, they use TNT as the measure. They also do this when mining or creating controlled construction like mount Rushmore which was done with precise mathematics and TNT. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_yield

Even the anti-terrorist guides use them as a guide along with car size. 



There's a lot of math involved, and I wish I had a better list, but I never researched explosives outside of bullet wield and gun construction. 

[*Chernaudi]

Normal dynamite is usually about 1.25 more powerful than TNT.  Gelignite is 1.6 times more powerful.  That means 25% and 60% more powerful respectively.  The problem with the Weather Underground nail bomb incident is that the whole basement of that townhouse was packed with explosives, including dynamite, pipe bombs, a 37mm HEAPI anti-tank shell, and several large nail bombs that were already assembled.

 

I wonder if there's something better to compare Panadyne's and Gaster's explosives to, like if we know how much of their stuff would do something, is there any common explosive that can do a similar damage yeild with a similar mass.

[*V Guyver]

Hmm, well a tank can be taken out by Gasters missiles. So if you must compare, it's probably comparable to C4, except in Gasters case it's a liquid filled missile. 

[*Chernaudi]

Then I'd have to say that Camel's explosive would be a lot more powerful. It allows him to blow apart a Enzyme II/Enzyme III apart with a .45ACP pistol bullet filled with his explosive. So I'd have to say about 2-4 times more powerful than HMX, and that his rockets can be a small version of the Russian "Father of all Bombs" air-fuel bomb. I wonder what could do that to an Enzyme II/III? Murakami's Zoanoid buster was basically a 23mm hand cannon.

Camel's weapon bullets can also injure or potentially kill things like Zoalords if they hit in the right places. The effect is similar to the Casull from Hellsing. Basically it an reduce a lot of creatures to gibs pretty easily.