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If they can, I think I found the one Aptom got the high frequency spear from!

It hasn't been named yet but it appears right here: http://www.japan-leg..._Valkyria/162/6 and http://www.japan-leg..._Valkyria/162/7

Also there appears a Hyper-Zoanoid in that same chapter who has a bio blaster for his torso: http://www.japan-leg...Valkyria/162/13 , but Aptom uses that exact shape for a bio blaster 3 volumes before that: http://www.japan-leg...heritance/147/5

I'm definitely believing Aptom absorbed these Hyper-Zoanoids while Khan had control over him, but only if Hypers are able to be replicated. If they can be I think he absorbed those two.

What's everyone's opinion on this?

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I think these are really interesting observations but I also want to point some things out that I think are important.

when aptom is imprisoned by khan, he is evil aptom, he has the high frequency lance. it does not look like the one in the picture you showed. in that picture, it appears to be a high frequency sword. I guess it can work in the same way, but the images of the two are very different.

the beam weapon is also very similar. on first glance I was like " wow, that is a pretty good point!" but then I looked at it some more. the surface of the inside of the 'shell' of the weapon looks different. the one aptom uses has a bony ridged structure, the one on the large zoanoid looks to be more ribbed.

I think it is interesting to look at this though. it lends to the idea that zoanoids can use similar 'plug-in's.

I always remember what our translations told us about vamore. that his lasers are not part of his original genetic code, they are put in as extras. it's almost like there is a specific genetic code for these lasers that are spliced into his DNA.

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I'm just now noticing the difference between the insides of the shell on Aptom's arm and the Hyper who's entire torso is just a massive bio-blaster, now that you've mentioned it. lol.

The main similarity for the Hyper's high frequency blade and Evil Aptom's lance is the size of it. Thancrus' blades are his hands, and Zerebebuth (powered) claws come just out of his hand. However this Hyper's blade makes up the entire forearm and then some, just like the lance Evil Aptom used.

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I know what would be interesting. if you could identify parts on chaos aptom or the group of zoanoids he absorbed, that look the same as the other zoanoids you've presented from the american base.

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Technically cloning and viral replication should be able to reproduce ANY zoanoid, unless they are a genetic chimera (meaning different body parts have different DNA).

Chronos genetic science already goes waaaaaay beyond this. They can go in an restructure DNA in order to create different creatures out of a person. RNA copies DNA. Why you couldn't modify a normal human to be a genetic match of a hyper candidate, and then perform the same zoamodifications I don't know. It would seem like more work, but it should still be doable

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i was under the impression that hypers were tailored to the individual, but could be replicated albeit a weaker version than the original, unsure where i got the info could be wrong but i thought thats how it is.

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Technically cloning and viral replication should be able to reproduce ANY zoanoid, unless they are a genetic chimera (meaning different body parts have different DNA).

Chronos genetic science already goes waaaaaay beyond this. They can go in an restructure DNA in order to create different creatures out of a person. RNA copies DNA. Why you couldn't modify a normal human to be a genetic match of a hyper candidate, and then perform the same zoamodifications I don't know. It would seem like more work, but it should still be doable

a lot of people give Cronos too much credit. they are standing on the shoulders of giants. if this were not the case, I am certain we would have already seen all of this, cloning, multiple high level hyper zoanoids etc.

it's one thing giving a regular office worker a computer with access to email and spreadsheet packages etc and asking him to print out a cash flow forecast. It's a completely different thing asking him to write a software package by himself or troubleshoot the software he is using.

cronos are using a system the uranus developed, within the parameters that the uranus defined. there's no reason to believe they are knowledgeable enough to work outside the boundaries of the zoanoid adjustment system.

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That is a good point. It would explain how Dr Balcus was able to create the first zoanoids and Lords centuries ago... by picking up existing creator tech and putting it to use.

On the other hand, they have succeeded in re-creating creator tech in modern tech equivalents. They've built mechanical processing tanks for instance, and turned the dead sea into one huge processing facility.

They've also demonstrated enough working knowledge of DNA to work with hyperzoanoids, and insert weapons. They may do mix and match, but they must've learned enough mix and match to mix and match the human genome. Perhaps Gelpess (if that is the correct name of the lost number that took the shape of Mitsuki) was an attempt of a human disguise zoanoid, capable of mixing around it's human side for disguise purposes just as Aptom mixes around his zoanoid side.

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also wasnt there a thancrus type that assasinated somebody in xday?? even if it wasnt an exact copy its still damn close.also thers danaplus from cloud gate and the identical to danaplus that guyot killed after guyver 2 females battle with powered zerbebuth? although we never saw his abilities so cant be sure was a physical twin though.

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that thancrus type was not completely canon. it was an insert with the max factory models back in the 90s.

but aside from that, yes there have been alternate incarnations of certain zoanoids.

we have seen zerbebuth revision of course.

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lol i completely forgot zerbebuth, or should that be zerbebuths, still there all not exactly direct replications though so its still a debatable point, my favourite kind :yay:

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