page: Guyver

[*Jess♥]

didn't you already have them?

I know for sure that they were scanned in and at one point i think you were translating them.

they are the ones in the "new vdf2" folder. http://www.japan-legend.com/guyver_advocacy/New%20VDF2/

[durendal]

Ooh! I didn't know that folder existed. Thanks. As for the other works, I don't think I remember doing them. I know there were a few that I did, but some volumes for translation didn't include the data files. Now if only I manage to squeeze in more time at home so I could photoshop these to fit the wiki. It's been a long time since I heated up for a project like this.

[*Jess♥]

well image editing is my better skill so if you want me to prepare certain images for you, just let me know.

[durendal]

Well, if you insist, then I guess I will have to impose on you. I'm currently working on the technical data for the zoalords, and I noticed that some of the pictures of the Zoalords are either outdated or unclear. Additionally, black isn't really a background I would choose seeing that the wiki page is white.

As seen in this page: http://www.japan-legend.com/wiki/index.php?title=Zoalord I've re-used the images that were previously provided. Some zoalords doesn't even have their own image. Also, please feel free to change the term "Alternative" for the other zoalords as I'm currently at a loss at how to label them accordinly.

And lastly, do you think I should re-write the descriptions for the technical page of each zoalords to contain what is written on the Data files instead? These descriptions were only copied from the Japanese wiki.

[*Jess♥]

ok cool, I will continue what i had previously started. the imakarum image is obviously up to scratch, I'll concentrate on doing some suitable images for the zoalords.

I changed alternative to 'pseudo zoalords'. I chose that term because we have had the word 'pseudo' used before for the pseudo black hole. i think it accurately describes something that could be considered a zoalord but isn't quite the real deal.

I'm not sure if re-writing would be best.

i think if we have the translation of the data-files, then perhaps the translation can go on those data-files.

the technical bits for our wiki, I believe has different information? including observational data that is from looking at what happens in the manga and some comments that may be made by characters.

one thing I need to ask of you.

can you tell me what the words say next to cablarl brain mode, referring to his height.

I guess it's saying that it's his height minus the spikes, but i don't want to produce an image for the article before i know how tall he is and i can put my guyver 1 silhouette on him.

also, I could probably translate myself but after doing a fair few images, I feel like i don't want to be searching through kanji radicals right now.

[durendal]

Ah, no problem.

first is overall height (excluding spikes)

second is overall width (excluding spikes)

third is weight (before fusion)

[*Jess♥]

ok cool. hmm, i guess i can do that one now before i call it a day. it takes so long to do these

It was particularly challenging to do draglord!!!

working at that scale is tricky, and my new computer even has trouble when the actual image size is bigger than my house...

[durendal]

Ryuki, sorry, but some of the old images bothered me so I had to re-upload them with a more cleaner version, which removed the height comparison. The black background really bothered me since I thought that doesn't suit a page with white background. Anyway, I'm re-uploaded the images for the hyper zoanoid team 5 ( http://www.japan-legend.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hyper_Zoanoid_Team_5 ) along with Zx-tole. I hope you don't mind.

Also uploaded an image of Aptom in the lost numbers section (Aptom Trinity Blast and Evil Aptom).

[*Jess♥]

i'll admit the images are better and are more presentable.

if you request, I can do the height comparison on images.

i could do maybe 4 or 5 at a time.

it does sometimes take a while to clean them so if you have clean images, then could submit them all to me gradually for adding on the guyver 1 silhouette.

[durendal]

I don't think they need immediate attention. For the moment, I would like to concentrate on fixing the technical data, so the height chart can come later. I really don't want to impose on you since I can imagine how tricky those can be. Perhaps when I'm completely done with a certain page, then I'll make a request to have the images on that particular page to be done. But due to my short attention span, I tend to jump from page to page so it might take a while before I complete a page.

[*Jess♥]

actually, my measurements guide is up to 3 metres so it's no too tricky to simply size them up.

draglord was tricky because he was enormous.

and the others were tricky because i had to carefully clean round the edges.

[*Jess♥]

I was thinking, do you suppose the images are hard to see against a white background?

obviously, not an issue against black background, but now maybe it is.

what say you?

maybe a dash of simple colour on each figure. no fancy shading or whatnot.

just to make them stand out against he background.

[durendal]

You have a point about the white background, some images does seem to be pale. But a simple adjustment of the brightness and contrast might be able to fix this. Well, my only issue with the black background is due to the grainy appearance it produces. But with a larger image and better editing, I think it would be fine. I guess I didn't like the black background before when I was doing the zoanoid pages and noticed how poorly the quality was. But the guyver images looks crisp. Ideally, I think having a colored images would be the best, but unfortunately, the availability is very limited. If you asked me to choose between a shade of color or the current black background, I'd choose the black background if the images were as crisp as the guyvers, more so if we are using black and white images.

[*Jess♥]

i don't think it's the tone of the images that is the issue, rather it is the thickness of the lines.

I was mainly looking at the guyver zero image.

I actually agree with your decision to take the black backgrounds off.

let me do something to the guyver zero image to show you what i mean.

btw, I'm not suggesting we find replacement images. I'm suggesting that I add the matte colour to the images we currently have on there.

[durendal]

Looks good to me. But if we go that route, I'm afraid I won't be able to help you with the shading. My sense of color is really screwy. Unless of course we only use a simple gray toning. That I can pretty much do. Anyway, to help you out a little, I can upload images for non-existing ones, or the ones that needs new images, then I'll have to leave the rest to you, if you are fine with that arrangement.

[*Jess♥]

yeah that sounds good to me.

I never expected you to do any of that.

if you have clean images, that's more than enough.

i mean, cleaning the images is what takes most time as far as i'm concerned, so to have that already sorted, is a bonus.

i'm not sure if you are cleaning these yourself or if you got them from a different source, i noticed they are tend to be smaller than the ones that i uploaded. could be any reason for that, but if by any chance you are shrinking them, I think it better if they are not resized. i mean.. i don't know, maybe i'm wrong, the images i uploaded were over 1000 pixels high normally. but then again that could be due to the cropping i used. I tend to prefer a larger margin.

edit:

ok, just checked the size and i see where the image was come from.

the VDF. no problem.

I decided though, I want to redo the cleaning on the edges because there is some corruption that i can avoid if i do it by hand.

it'll take a bit longer and just make the outcome a little smoother.

but if you can do these quickly that great for now. it certainly makes the articles look so much better until i can get off my backside and do some work on the images.

[durendal]

Yup, I get the images from the VDF and edit them. At first I edit them using the magic wand tool in Photoshop, but I found that the edges doesn't quite look right if I did that. But on the most recent images (zoanoids), I manually edit the edges. And usually, the images I upload are larger than the ones that I replaced.

Is there a specific image that you want redone? Perhaps an example so that I won't repeat them later on.

[*Jess♥]

oh ok, then that would be excellent.

well actually the guyver zero image is the one i was looking at when i noticed.

it is due to the blasted magic wand of course. it is an awkward tool.

I realise now, that is why the image looked faint. because the magic wand tool had stripped the outer part of the lines.

[durendal]

Done. Re-uploaded the image. This time I didn't use the magic wand tool. Hopefully this would be better.

[*Jess♥]

i think you used the VDF2 version as well?

it looks very impressive now!!

such a fine image!

it's unfortunate we don't have a height for him, I cannot do an accurate guyver 1 silhouette.

I'll look forward to putting some matte colours on these though.

[durendal]

Ryuki, could you check the latest changes I've made in the guyver page? I've moved the "Guyver Gigantic" page to "Gigantic", so that I could use that page for the template of Sho's gigantic. However, my connection is very screwy at the moment and I can't view the wiki page. When I try to load the "Guyver Systems" only a white page appears. I'm not sure if the image I uploaded of the guyver gigantic is the cause of it, because it happened after I uploaded the image. That's also the reason why I uploaded the image twice. I was trying to make it similar to Gigantic Dark.

Thanks.

[*Jess♥]

looks like there is a major error with that file.

i cannot view the image, it throws me a blank page.

not sure what's happened. I'll need to look for way to clear it.

edit:

ok what i decided to do was to do a fresh file upload and name the resulting file as guyver gigantic. this overwrote the problem file.

the file i uploaded was actually yenstui but now that can be replaced with the correct image.

further edit:

it seems the guyver systems page had also become corrupt and was throwing me a blank page. i solved this by performing a rollback on your last edit.

I don't know what the issue is, but it is possible to review your edits by doing a history comparison.

final edit:

noticed 2 versions of the same file, one with a capital G and other with lower case g.

the second version was causing an issue also in the guyver gigantic page, so I have overwritten that file, then deleted it and replaced the image with hte one with a lower case G.

anyway, I restored all pages after clearing up the issue. it should be as you left it. only with a working (albeit wrong) image.

[durendal]

Thanks for that. I think it was during the upload the caused the file to be corrupt. I'll fix this later when I'm sure my connection is stable.

[durendal]

I've re-uploaded the image in the office since I have a much stronger connection. But it looks like the results were the same. All it showed was a blank white page. So I was thinking it was probably the size and resolution. Since I reduced the image size by 25%, it worked. May I inquire as to what is the maximum size or resolution the wiki allows? The original image I tried to upload had a resolution of 1154 x 1938 versus the 866 x 1454 that I just uploaded.

[*Jess♥]

i think it is possibly to do with filesize.

not the dimensions, but the actual mb filesize.

i'm really not sure to be honest.

I've never had an issue with it.

and i'm actually not sure how to check on these things. the wiki software is very unwieldy when it comes to admin actions and documentation.

edit:

i checked the website for mediawiki,

by default, php does not allow uploads of more than 2mb.

dimensions is not mentioned.

anyway, i did click on the historical link to the raw file you uploaded. actually the image file itself has uploaded to the server. the issue must be that the wiki software cannot handle it.

hell knows why.