host energy

[danielkey25]

hello new here.

as the titel says host energy meaning the human body runs on ATP and that is created by food however when reading about guyver a host doesnt need to eat when wearing the suit so how does the host and the armor get energy if the armor is organic cells then they also need ATP to work organic cells need energy thus ATP but if the guyver doesnt eat his body will not create ATP and the number of mucle cells are increased to max muscle density to increase strength since those cell are made from the armor cells where the DNA is changed to the host DNA it also will run on ATP more cells more energy need more need from food.human body''s need and use ATP so how does the armor and host get energy without food.

[Juggernought]

Both the unit and host receive a constant stream of energy from the boost dimension/hyperspace. Even though the bio energy of the host is incorporated in the unit systems it isn't expended unless the guyver uses it's weapons, otherwise just having it equipped without fighting, the host can remain boosted for quite a long time without suffering from starvation, thirst, sleep etc.

[Zoaknight]

I wonder how long a human being can remain bio-boosted for...In a traditional guyver unit of course, not a WG unit

[danielkey25]

so basicly energy is energy so the cells of the host and the armor can even run on thermal or kinetic energy.

well after i posted this question i started to think when you break it down to basic ATP transports electrons (like wires in your wall where electrons move true makeing a constant and direct transport connection to everything in your house ATP is a wireless transport) basicly a empty battery ADP gets charged ATP and that charge is used and becomes ADP again but a human cell needs food and oxygen to make ATP so reading all over the internet about the guyver unit alot say that the unit is even part of your every cell meaning something is added to your cell so if the host cell and the armor cell recieve energy from another dimension and dont need to eat to make energy then maybe what is inside the cells of the armor and becomes part of your cells is basicly a new battery that connects to every part of the cell (so you dont need ATP) then that battery recieves a constant charge when the armor is on providing the energy need when the armor is off ATP becomes the energy again.

i dont know another way to explain it maybe what is added to the cells is wgat gives ATP a extra charge for the energy need basicly becoming ATP+.

if the armor runs on your energy then as soon as you wear the armor energy use is doubled becouse the armor cells also need energy no energy cells dont work. well i do have two theorys about the creation and blueprint of the bio armor (i will write about that soon).

[Juggernought]

I wonder how long a human being can remain bio-boosted for...In a traditional guyver unit of course, not a WG unit

Pretty much there would be no limit, if the guyver didn't expend energy. But i think it would be limited because of the host. Even though there would be no need for such things, because of habit and maybe instinct the host would want to eat, sleep and do other things. It's like in the warrior guyver fanfic where Jason and Cori were underwater looking for the warrior prototypes and they encountered a shark. In their guyver forms they could never be hurt by it but that fear was still there and very real. It took a moment to realize that they couldn't be hurt by it.

[danielkey25]

i had a thought human cells need oxygen and glucose to make energy glucose you get from food however it seems that the digestive system an stomach get shrunk so you wont get glucose from that but cells need it for energy or they wont work.

and with the increase of cells when wearing the armor you need to be able to produce enough energy. the amount of oxygen is increased thanks to the armor but you need glucose since there is no food how will cells make ATP to work and if there was a alternate way you would not need oxygen. the only answer for now i can think of is that the armor produces glucose true matter conversion similar how a nanofactory will work by manipulating atoms the suit goes a step up and uses the building blocks of atoms protons neutrons and electrons to form the atoms it need to form the molecules to form glucose

that way the host cells and guyver unit cells have enough energy indefenitly.

the suit systems can run on the host energy becouse for example using the megasmasher once will put you in a coma it will use every ATP in your body and still wont be enough these systems get there energy from the orb in the waist.

also can someone explain what genetic changes are made to the host becouse the only thing i can think of is the things on his back i dont see any other reason to manipulate and change the host dna.

[Juggernought]

Over all the guyver unit makes its host's body super efficient. Nothing is wasted and everything is either optimized to it's utmost potential or presumably removed to make way for the guyver's own organisms. I don't think the host body is maintained and fed in the same way as you know it now, once equipped i think the unit and the host receives all they need from the energy siphoned from hyperspace.

Nothing of the host dna is actually changed i believe. It's just that it brings out the full potential of the human body without having it processed into a zoanoid which would have been the next step according to the Creators/Chronos' plans. The Guyver is a human/alien hybrid. So while at base it still remains human, once bio boosted they can't be seen as fully human either as now guyver components have been added to the mix to create a totally new kind of being in one instant.

[*zeo]

The Guyver can regenerate the host from just a few cells and no intake of surrounding matter. So clearly the unit has the ability to directly convert energy into matter and is siphoning enough energy to restore the mass of the host in a pretty short period of time. This is extremely beyond the needs of simply feeding the cells of the host body.

So the unit should easily be able to keep the required bio-chemical balance needed to keep the host cells functioning and thus biologically there is no need to ever de-activate the unit beyond the psychological needs of the host. In fact every cell of the host body is infused with energy during the Bio-Boost.

But the problem is the Bio-Boost only infuses power during the initial activation and the siphoning process is a secondary feature that doesn't provide as much power and thus when using weapons it can temporarily drain the unit until given time to replenish its reserves. Even the Gigantic seems to have this limit and needs to be careful not to use too much energy all at once.

My working theory on how this all works is that from what is known about the Guyver unit is that the organism can naturally Bio-Boost and it is this feature that lets it increase the power of the host, along with its ability to merge with any life form. With the CM preventing it from completely consuming the host.

When the Creators found Earth though, they specifically state there was something special about it and my theory is that Earth had the same properties as the world the Bio-Boosted Organism came from and thus all life on Earth also has a natural potential to Bio-Boost. This in turn explains why humans Bio-Boost 10x more than the Creators do with the Guyver Unit, because of the greater compatibility and the ability to tap and store even more power.

This theory also explains zoanoids and their ability to increase their mass when they transform, using the Bio-Boost to fuel the transformation but unlike the Guyver they can't infuse additional power into every cell and may even waste energy powering the transformation. Additionally the Bio-Boost only occurs with a associated mass change. So basically less efficient.

But also explains why the Guyver's initial Bio-Boost seems to provide the most power, even instantly healing wounds. Like when Agito Stole the Gigantic from Sho, it was heavily damaged but fully repaired the instant it activated around G3. Even though it did not spend enough time in the boost dimension to fully recharge itself. So there is a limit to how much energy the Boost Dimension provides, even though it is still massive. But works with the fan fic need to explain why something like the Exceed can't be a daily affair because of the limits of how much energy can be drawn from the Boost Dimension at any one time.

Just a theory though but seems to fit everything...