McAvoy Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 So I take it that the second wave of ships from the last story is indeed the Creators. It does provide much greater insight to the Grakken mind than ever before.
guyverfanatic Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 I like the insight on the Grakken side. I can't wait to see the final product.
McAvoy Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Something I didn't notice until now. 12 Enforcer Kavzars. I know this will get a no comment... but from what I understand, there are 5 Enforcer Kavzar per battle fleet. This is from the second Guyver 4 story. Now if we include Enforcer Prime, we are up to 11 Enforcer Kavzars. So where the extra one come from? A personal body guard of a Creator? Also, could be elements of four or five battlefleets.
Sully Posted January 11, 2010 Author Posted January 11, 2010 Something I didn't notice until now. 12 Enforcer Kavzars. I know this will get a no comment... but from what I understand, there are 5 Enforcer Kavzar per battle fleet. Actually no, there should only be 1. Anything above that is because of the situation. In this case the Creators want to put the Grakken fleet down and out of action. They want to do it fast without great cost of human life. This is from the second Guyver 4 story. Now if we include Enforcer Prime, we are up to 11 Enforcer Kavzars. So where the extra one come from? A personal body guard of a Creator? Also, could be elements of four or five battlefleets. Prime isn't one of those 12 either. Enforcers are rarely if in fact never used has body guards for single Creators. They are mainly used to protect A LOT of Creators / Planets etc. Only one has that duty for the Assassin Guyver and that was only because the Warrior Guyver was concenred. To the Creators that is overkill enough. On the update front part 7 is already longer than 6 and only about a quater nearing a half complete.
Juggernought Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 On the update front part 7 is already longer than 6 and only about a quater nearing a half complete. wow...
McAvoy Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Impressive. Usually I don't ask this but, have an idea when you think it may be complete?
Sully Posted January 12, 2010 Author Posted January 12, 2010 Impressive. Usually I don't ask this but, have an idea when you think it may be complete? being burtally honest. Not a clue (basically it's like asking how long is a peice of string). But the end result will ne nice. There story has 3 phases really. Phase 1 is nearly there and reaching it's end point (not saying how that part of the story ends but you'll notice). Phase 1 will be the longest part of the story. Phase 2 will begin then and deal with some of P1's aftermath but will mainly begin the next battle. Phase 3 will be all basically coming to terms with the results of Phase 1 and 2 and will conclude the story from the view points of most of those that have taken part in all parts of 7 Days.
Weltall2 Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I don't know if anyone suggested this in the past. Brian Have you ever considered making a story revolving around the reflections of characters after a major battle, you know much like many tv shows and cartoon shows. It's just something I thought of to add more depth to the characters. It has the benifit of showing, the characters think about their actions and the results.
Sully Posted January 12, 2010 Author Posted January 12, 2010 I have, and there will be more insight to other characters events from their view at a later stage. But for 7 days part 7 the idea felt cheap to simply end it and then do a few flections considering the 6 parts before it.
Weltall2 Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I agree but for an after chapter it sounds like a good idea. Since & days is so huge it would be good to think about after chapter 7. Also many major events have occurred, and I think that would be a very jarring experience. That was my thought behind my story suggestion. I didn't mean for you to take it as the way the next chapter of 7 days should be written. I just thought it would be a good idea since so much chaos has occured, it would be good to see the effects on the characters.
Sully Posted January 13, 2010 Author Posted January 13, 2010 I aggree there that 7 Days is such a complex story that the next few character stories and stories will referance back to it for a long time to come. By the time 7 Day's is completed a lot of character will be changed, or have events change them on a personal level. that was part of the reason behind the name of the story. Almost everyone that went into had something removed from them in return on a real or personal level, so the cost of the story to all sides is huge. Dreadnought has lost his alligance with ACTF. Jenny has regained her sanity but lost the ability to command zoa-forms of Chronos (something that needs to be shown more in previous stories and will be used in the re-writes a litle more). The relationship between her and Jason is going to be very strained. She might have gained the powers of a Black Nova unit which is technically an upgrade. But it's not like she wanted it or will enjoy it any time soon. Which if you look at it another way is of huge cost to ACTF has they lost something has powerful has a Gigantic Guyver thanks to you know who. Chronos has lost it's top rank of leadership with but Alkanphel and Kron out of action for a long time to come. Bare in mind the time frames concerned. Dreadnought was in a cocoon a lot less time because he had a Matrix help which sought him out when damaged. Warrior Guyer Natasha hasn't got such a complete Matrix and also has the Darmon Crystals inside the cocoon with her. Has such her time inside that cocoon is going to be random. So for all 3 cocoons they could be in there for a long time. They are also very at danger inside those which means Chronos will have to guard them extreamely well. Given the chance that Dreadnought / Dark Nova / W'Kar etc could attack it that means a LOT of Chronos's heavy hitters will be close by in some way or another. Chronos also has lost a huge percentage of their Bio-Titans. it will take them a long time to recover that. ACTF too is in a simular situation to that of Chronos. They have lost a lot of their forces and equipment. They lost Dreadnought, Zeugma and Guardian (Faye) and too a lesser extent Elera. They have also not gained access to Zygote Guyver who has the potential to make an army of clone warriors. What they gained so far is Gilgamesh who doesn't make up for the loss. Yes they do have limited access to Dreadnought through the fact he still considers himself to owe the likes of Guyver US a lot. But it''s not the control they enjoyed before and they can't team him up with their newest heavy hitter Gilgamesh. Simply put he and Dreadnought have issues. When you consider all those and not just the events of what Part 7 will bring. You can see for a long time to come this story will shape everything else to come for a long long time.
Juggernought Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I'm curious to see if the Eliminator will show up at Chronos and provide either protection for Alkanphel or display some level of intelligence (via human host or sentient unit) that would enable it to aid Chronos in their darkest hour.
Sully Posted January 13, 2010 Author Posted January 13, 2010 I'm curious to see if the Eliminator will show up at Chronos and provide either protection for Alkanphel or display some level of intelligence (via human host or sentient unit) that would enable it to aid Chronos in their darkest hour. "No Comment :P"
McAvoy Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I aggree there that 7 Days is such a complex story that the next few character stories and stories will referance back to it for a long time to come. By the time 7 Day's is completed a lot of character will be changed, or have events change them on a personal level. that was part of the reason behind the name of the story. Almost everyone that went into had something removed from them in return on a real or personal level, so the cost of the story to all sides is huge. Dreadnought has lost his alligance with ACTF. Jenny has regained her sanity but lost the ability to command zoa-forms of Chronos (something that needs to be shown more in previous stories and will be used in the re-writes a litle more). The relationship between her and Jason is going to be very strained. She might have gained the powers of a Black Nova unit which is technically an upgrade. But it's not like she wanted it or will enjoy it any time soon. Which if you look at it another way is of huge cost to ACTF has they lost something has powerful has a Gigantic Guyver thanks to you know who. Chronos has lost it's top rank of leadership with but Alkanphel and Kron out of action for a long time to come. Bare in mind the time frames concerned. Dreadnought was in a cocoon a lot less time because he had a Matrix help which sought him out when damaged. Warrior Guyer Natasha hasn't got such a complete Matrix and also has the Darmon Crystals inside the cocoon with her. Has such her time inside that cocoon is going to be random. So for all 3 cocoons they could be in there for a long time. They are also very at danger inside those which means Chronos will have to guard them extreamely well. Given the chance that Dreadnought / Dark Nova / W'Kar etc could attack it that means a LOT of Chronos's heavy hitters will be close by in some way or another. Chronos also has lost a huge percentage of their Bio-Titans. it will take them a long time to recover that. ACTF too is in a simular situation to that of Chronos. They have lost a lot of their forces and equipment. They lost Dreadnought, Zeugma and Guardian (Faye) and too a lesser extent Elera. They have also not gained access to Zygote Guyver who has the potential to make an army of clone warriors. What they gained so far is Gilgamesh who doesn't make up for the loss. Yes they do have limited access to Dreadnought through the fact he still considers himself to owe the likes of Guyver US a lot. But it''s not the control they enjoyed before and they can't team him up with their newest heavy hitter Gilgamesh. Simply put he and Dreadnought have issues. When you consider all those and not just the events of what Part 7 will bring. You can see for a long time to come this story will shape everything else to come for a long long time. Interesting you left out Zeus. But that may have been a brain fart. But if he is gone, then that's a heavy loss for many concerned even with his power grabbing focus. For Chronos, it's a pretty big gap in the heavy hitters. I mean, the ACTF either part of them or potential allies are: Dreadnought, W'Kar, Angel, Zeugma, Gilgamesh and Dark Nova. Where as Chronos has: Guyver Powered Zerebubuse, Warrior Guyver Vamore, and Tonnin. They may have Elminator or Enforcer Prime. On top of the fact that with reduced forces on both sides, i wouldn't be suprised that in the aftermath, that Chronos and ACTF come up with an uneasy cease fire for the time being.
Sully Posted January 14, 2010 Author Posted January 14, 2010 Interesting you left out Zeus. But that may have been a brain fart. But if he is gone, then that's a heavy loss for many concerned even with his power grabbing focus. No Comment (I'm getting back to form on those!) For Chronos, it's a pretty big gap in the heavy hitters. I mean, the ACTF either part of them or potential allies are: Dreadnought, W'Kar, Angel, Zeugma, Gilgamesh and Dark Nova. Where as Chronos has: Guyver Powered Zerebubuse, Warrior Guyver Vamore, and Tonnin. They may have Elminator or Enforcer Prime. On top of the fact that with reduced forces on both sides, i wouldn't be suprised that in the aftermath, that Chronos and ACTF come up with an uneasy cease fire for the time being. I wouldn't exactly put W'kar down has an ACTF ally. Everything he's done so far has being for his own amusement. He's yet to go and outright kill someone important (Kron is still alive for example though that would mostly be down to W'Kar not knowing he needed to destroy the head too!). The chances of W'Kar respecting Carter in anyway is also very small. Angel has per Alan's fiction is also getting to the point where she needs a break from it all. Dreadnought will not exactly be in the "lets attack Chronos mood" for awhile either along with Zeumga (ACTF did try and steal zoa-tech from Elera and maybe from Zuegma). So unless Chronos does something to make it personal e.g. attack Dreadnought to provoke him they will not be in danger from him for awhile. If you think about it logically has well. Dreadnought's next target won't be Alkanphel etc. It'll be the thing that gives him the most to fear about in the short term. Elminator would be the obvious target for him has Fiona will not be someone he'd be prepared to lose a second time. So that would be another reason why he's not going to go running off to attack Chronos unless they do something to make the loss of Fiona seem smaller to what they could do to him / other people he cares about. Problem for Dreanought is Eliminator isn't eaxactly stupid and isn't going to get bored. It will strike when it's ready. That leaves ACTF with Gilgamesh and Dark Nova (if she's avilable) for a preemtive attack on Chronos (going by events to 7 days part 6 - remember you've not seen the changes of part 7 yet).
guyverfanatic Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Interesting... I can't wait to see how things pan out.
Juggernought Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I wouldn't be surprised if after it is all said and done and there is an uneasy alliance between Dreadnought (and his crew) and Chronos; with Chronos trying to rebuild its armies to tackle the Creators, Dreadnought has more free time to play guyver tag with Fiona, and then the ACTF turns out to be the "next aggressor". You do have Primitive Guyver there with his own plans and Carter seems to be a big part of it.
McAvoy Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 I do not know about that. I mean Dreadnought's main motivation to take down Chronos is definitely complicated. I mean he got Fiona and killed Alkanphel. Maybe not the same ones that he knew but good enough. ACTF betrayed him. After Story 7 Dreadnought may see the world in a different light especially His view on Chronos.
Sully Posted January 20, 2010 Author Posted January 20, 2010 9011 words now. Still not finished though.. In fact still a decent bit off.
guyverfanatic Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 I can't wait to see the finished product.
Sully Posted January 27, 2010 Author Posted January 27, 2010 ACTF HQ – Washington DCDreadnought had by this time being battling the Grakken in Australia for half a day. Has of yet they had not seen any attempts to attack the USA. General Carter though had two issues. First was to allow his army a chance to recover. In that front he had some very good fortune. The Guyver 1’s partner Mituzki had being given a Unit G by Agito. The unit was named Apothecary for it’s ability to heal others. According to the Warrior Guyver 2 this Unit was of the same type made by a Matrix in an alternative universe. Basically it had no real fire power but amazing durability and the ability to heal others. Thanks to this Mitzuki was able to reduce loses significantly to the ACTF army and only minor injury’s where being treated in medical facilities. There was some limitations to this though, if the person was dead for a long period of time they where beyond help. For those that died during the Bio-Titan attack on the base a few days ago they could not be saved. Thanks to this the main loss to ACTF was in damaged or destroyed Armours. Dr Drake thankfully had already transferred a lot of information needed to the reformed US Army Corps of Engineers. Over the last few months since Chronos had being driven out they had being putting lot of finishing work to factories in Detroit that would soon be mass producing the Green V2 battle armours. This would free him up for a project which he now worked on deep within the building converting the power systems of four particle cannons deep within the bowels of the HQ itself into part of a defence mechanism for the infected Turbo unit. The next problem was a mixture of moral and diplomacy. Dreadnought had not just left. He left with a large percentage of the heavy hitters. But Jason wasn’t a bad person and he knew himself that if he asked Jason and treated him right then he would help out. He’d have to think carefully though before involving him on a mission. Most importantly he would have to make sure that if he got Jason’s help that he not team him or the group that where with him in anyway with Redmond or his group. Having that loss effected moral. He needed to show his army they didn’t depend on the Warrior Guyver much when he was with them, even less when he was Dreadnought. They where the backbone of this resistance and they still had help from other sources. Outside the building now patrolled Battle Guyver, Guyver 1, Aceaer Guyver US and Apothecary Guyver. Gilgamesh, Guyver Merc and Guyver 5 made up the alternative team who now rested. Cyber Guyver helped Dr Drake with his project. The Chinese host of Guyver 11 Mai slept counting herself lucky that her past was not being used against her by the ACTF for actions against the Chinese Guyvers. Amuro and Stephen where the reserve Warrior Guyvers. Both where in the canteen chatting with friends, as usual they chatted about anything that came to mind and being guys that meant the new Chinese Guyver who Eric couldn’t help but find attractive. Amuro who wasn’t quite used to their crude humour didn’t how Eric ever hoped to not just bed Zeugma but now a Chinese Guyver who couldn’t speak English. But he listened away has Stephen and his friends laughed away at Eric’s expense. “Sean, do you think Jason has a chance against those Grakken?” asked Apothecary Guyver. “I know Jason, he’s a headstrong fool at times. But he never gives up and will never surrenders,” said Guyver US. Though he thought of one time Warrior Guyver did surrender but that was only because Chronos had Jenny under their control. Let’s be honest it would be a mighty cold bastard who could kill his own sister and that wasn’t Jason. “Why did he leave?” asked Guyver 1. “You’ve not be told?” responded Aceaer Guyver US. “No, the General was extremely busy according to Cornel Storm. Even the Cornel didn’t have much time only asking us to go on patrol with Cori and you.” “They’ve being busy trying to get the army organised since the army’s retreat from Australia. Jason freeked out after finding what he believed was evidence of ACTF trying to make something from Elera’s blood.” : Another snipped part of the fiction. This is much later on in the story from the last and is on page 17/18. So far 10844 words. To give you guys some hint, this is a build up to the end of phase of of the story and the start to phase 2. Also this is more like draft 1. There is very little action wrote. Only talked of. That will be added in later has it was tyring to come up with action fights with the Grakken that bogged down the story in the first place. Though the story is a little boring now thanks to it being missing. Keeping focused though on the end goal. This will be the single biggest part of 7 days. In fact I could make it an 8 parter easy but feel by this stage it's best to simply finish this story off properly and altogether.
Juggernought Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 Oooo...ever closer to the final big moment...can't wait. Hmm i wonder if we'll see Gilgamesh in action or at least in a fight vs Dreadnought
guyverfanatic Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 Good stuff. I can't wait to read it all.
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