gelionlegends Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Well, like I asked in the subject, what is really the differences as I think someone posted during a topic that a Zoalord is just a Hyper Zoanoid with a Zoa-Crystal? But I would have thought a Zoalord would be far more complex to better use a Zoa-Crystal than any of the Hyper Zoanoids, plus does the crystal grant them the psionic powers or are they created during the processing of the Zoalord form? If so, what is the basic powers of a Zoalord since if the crystal doesn't grant them such psionic powers then maybe it is enhancing them and one trait pending on each Zoalord mutates to become something powerful and unique and possibly reflecting Alkanphel in some way? But when you come to think about it a little it would seem that all Zoalords, barring Alkanphel, are all possibly being designed around the Zoa-Crystals as in Guyot and Imakarum both are gravity Zoalords and use the same Zoa-Crystal. You would think that they would have made Imakarum into a different type of Zoalord but they didn't. It was as if the Zoa-Crystal, while enhancing the psionic powers, only has one element alignment and for that one it's gravity. So perhaps the Hyper Zoanoids are more like test beds for different designs for possible Zoalords, or not? Quote
Juggernought Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Protozoalords or also known as Prototype zoalords are the test subjects for the true zoalord battle form and powers. Hyper zoanoids and in the WG world, the neo hyper zoanoids are pretty much the ultimate forms for all zoanoids under the Overlord zoaform. As for the control crystals they regulate a zoalord's power and makes the powers they naturally possess more efficient and readily accessible. As each zoalord has a special ability or affinity for a certain kind of power, so that crystal is tailored to that kind of zoalord....Imakurum was able to receive the crystal from Guyot because he was the test body for Guyot's final form. Guyot is able to survive without a crystal, but also without it he has very little power and probably is only as strong as a human now, or a little over that provided he doesn't overtax himself. Quote
gelionlegends Posted February 16, 2009 Author Posted February 16, 2009 Hmm. . . Well, I took a look at the data file for the Overlords and it really reminds me of a zoanthrope from Tyranids Warhammer 40k, as they rely on their psychic power as their body is really weak when compared to the other creatures. Like Hyper and Neo Hyper Zoanoids are all more physical and have only limited telepathy to help them talk with a Zoalord. You would think some effort would be made in enhancing the durability and regeneration plus their energy levels replenishing as rapidly so that they are likely to last longer when and if they need to fight. Those Zoa-Crystals I always thought that they were only one lot of 12 main crystals created from Alkanphels own crystals and thus represented a focus for each of his powers, thus less stress on each crystal when he use more than one power. So if it was just his own crystal then it would become damaged as he has all the powers that the 12 zoalords that are made inside him but each focuses on one of his powers. Assuming that being the case then wouldn't the Zoalord be tailored to the crystal rather than the other way around as I am not sure if it's cannon or not that creating a Zoa-Crystal isn't very easy, like Zoanoids, and so retuning a Zoa-Crystal to fit a new or replacement Zoalord could be dangerous in either it being destroyed or not working as well as it could and did. Though if you, or someone, could find that "Zoalords are just Hyper Zoanoids" comment it would fit with what you have said about Guyot without his Zoa-Crystal is little better than a primitive Zoanoid. Though this is speculation as we know that Guyot is alive but how powerful he is now that he doesn't has the crystal Who can say? But from what was seen the proto-Zoalords, even without a main crystal like a full Zoalord's, were very dangerous to other zoanoid types. Though I would think from this that a Zoalord without his main crystal would be more powerful than most hyper zoanoids but more prone to losing stamina faster than a Hyper Zoanoids, since from what I am now thinking the crystal adds a massive boost to the energy and stamina besides the psi powers. So that would mean that a Zoalord is being designed to rely on a Zoa-Crystal grown from "Alkanphel's own" to achive its type's full potential and with out it it's just a Hyper Zoanoid? Quote
*zeo Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 The Zoa-Crystals are officially all created from Archanphel's, singular/not plural! Barcus and Archanphel basically took Archanphel's Zoa-Crystal and took some shavings/samples, which they then cultivated into whole crystals to which Barcus was granted the first one and Waferdanos the second, etc. as Barcus was charged with fulfilling the original plan of the Creators to create a total of 12 Zoalords, with Archanphel as the sole Master Zoalord. Unfortunately, no details have ever been given on how Zoalord's are processed, we only know Waferdanos was never processed because he was never human to begin with. Barcus found him on an island by the same name in which he was literally the forest of the land. Possessing Subjecti, humanoid vine like plant creatures that Waferdanos can create from his body at will and serve him in the same way Zoanoids server Zoalords. Barcus senses Waferdanos had power near that of a Zoalord, combined with his status as a divine being (as far as Barcus is concerned since both he and Archanphel were directly created by the Creators) that he decided to give him one of the Crystals. Planted into the forehead of Waferdanos humanoid like Avatar body the Zoa-Crystal reacted to him by converting his mass, including the Subjecti, into energy and compressing him into the more humanoid hairy form first seen in the Manga. Though we know of no incident in which Waferdanos controlled any zoanoids, his status as Zoalord would indicate that he could and thus we can state this ability is derived from the Zoa-Crystal, since he is the sole example that we know who was never processed. While the Zoa-Crytal itself is stated as being a means to store vast amounts of energy and is the secret to the Zoalord's power but as noted Zoalord's abilities do vary with the few exceptions like Archanphel who appears to have all abilities at his disposal. I would thus suggest that the ability to generate psycho-waves (this is what they call the mental waves that Zoalord's use to control other beings), the Barrier Shield, Zoa-Crystal Energy Beam, and flight are all abilities derived from the Zoa-Crystal because these abilities are demonstrated both in Zoalord battle form and their human form. Additionally, as a storage vessel of immense amounts of energy allows the Zoa-Crystal to sustain the life of the Zoalord from what would otherwise be fatale wounds until the energy of the Zoa-Crystal is exhaused. For example Purg'stal had depleted most of his power by the time the rogue Zoalord's assassinated him, Yentsei though still had energy when he was sliced in half by his own dimensional slice portal and thus survived until he finally did deplete his crystal. Though apparently this is limited to sustaining life as regeneration appears hardly enhanced, if at all. All that stated, I would say Zoalord's are optimized similar to Hyper Zoanoids but without the Zoa-Crystal Hyper Zoanoid's do not have the means to properly regulate their power and thus have a higher risk of burning themselves out. Thus the probable difference between a full Zoalord and a Proto-Zoalord is the Proto-Zoalord is only given a false crystal that grants the abilities of a Zoalord but does not possess the same level of energy storage and efficiency. Thus a Proto-Zoalord suffers the same problems as a Hyper Zoanoid like the Libertus or Enzyme III's that have metabolism's that run so fast and hard that they literally burn out and shorten their lifespans to just a few years. . . The lack of energy reserves being the biggest difference, since full Zoalords can draw power from their crystals but Hypers Zoanoids and even Proto-Zoalords must draw that power solely from their bodies. Btw, Murikami was Guyot's test-body, meaning Barcus used Murikami to test the design he was going to give Guyot. This was why Guyot was able to effect Murikami's crystal to the point he was able to immobilize him and even shatter his crystal. So Murikami was already attuned to Guyot's crystal and thus made the perfect raw material for Archanphel to create Imakarum from Murikami's body. However, Imakarum possess greater gravitational powers than Guyot and a wider range of abilities. Examples include the ability to fly, even into space, while in human form and utilizing his gravitational powers without having to fully transform. Imakarum also stated his gravity points were greater than Guyot's and thus unlike Guyot he did not completely exhaust himself when he created the Zoalard Black Hole attack, though it still drained him considerably. Imakarum is also capable of generating that swirling vortex attack that Archanphel used on Aptom the first time they met, combined with the fact Archanphel is trusting Imakarum to complete his mission and thus made him the aire apparent to Archanphel that Imakarum may possess a similar wide range of abilities as Archanphel now and may just favor his old gravitational abilities but until he is again engaged in battle that part remains just my conjecture at the moment. Finally, another factor that may be involved is the shape of the Zoa-Crystals, they aren't the same! Combined with how different the Zoalord battle form abilities appear to be suggests that they are indeed specialized for specific ability types. Purg'stal's crystal for example was more diamond shaped. Quote
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