Andersong Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 I'm wondering, I haven't seen Alkanphel in action, the manga's I have don't show alkanphel yet, i was wondering if someone could tell me his Abilities, power and techniques
guyverfanatic Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 (edited) Hmmm, lemme try and name a few off hand.... Telepathy (duh) Teleportation Strength - 40,000 men or 40x a guyver (full strength) Zoal-crystal beam Ultimate attack is a meteor attack, which is powerful enough to destory a moon. Cyclone attack (the one he used on Aptom in book 7) Weather abilities like lightning Gravity bullets BTW, get the Japanese graphic novels (tankoubon) at www.sasugabooks.com Edited November 29, 2004 by Guest
Andersong Posted November 29, 2004 Author Posted November 29, 2004 Awesome, althought can you explain them in detail?
guyverfanatic Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 Telepathy -used to control lower zoalords, zoanoids, and humans Teleportation - go from one place and appear in another Strength - speaks for itself Shielding - Alk has the ability to warp space around him to protect himself from attacks Zoa-crystal beam - laser beam shot from zoacrystal in his forehead Ultimate Attack - Alk's ultimate attack is a metero attack in which he summons all his energy and rams into the target with raw energy surrounding him. Capable of multi-gigaton explosion Weather abilities - Not too sure about this, but Alk can summon lightening to strike down his enemies. Cyclone blast -a energy blast in the shape of a cyclone gravity bullets - a gravity blast in the shape of a bullet Well, I think that is right.
*Jess♥ Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 The only ones that are certain are:- Telepathy, Teleportation, Shielding, Cyclone blast . These are the abilities we have seen him use. The following, im not so sure... Strength (where did you get your figures from are they in the art book? its just that i've never seen them listed anywhere) Ultimate Attack (this is a use of his sheilding and velocity to repel the giant moon rock) The following..... Zoa-crystal beam (we haven't seen him use this. this is an assumption) Weather abilities (again only an assumption) gravity bullets (assumption) .....are all assumed to be in his powers as the other zoalords have these abilities. however, balcus could have instilled different characteristics by using his imagination and coming up with new attacks that were not originally put into alkanphel. For example, balcus had to warn alkanphel about the black hole attack. alkanphel did not know about it.
guyverfanatic Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 The following, im not so sure...Strength (where did you get your figures from are they in the art book? its just that i've never seen them listed anywhere) Ultimate Attack (this is a use of his sheilding and velocity to repel the giant moon rock) The following..... Zoa-crystal beam (we haven't seen him use this. this is an assumption) Weather abilities (again only an assumption) gravity bullets (assumption) .....are all assumed to be in his powers as the other zoalords have these abilities. however, balcus could have instilled different characteristics by using his imagination and coming up with new attacks that were not originally put into alkanphel. For example, balcus had to warn alkanphel about the black hole attack. alkanphel did not know about it. Well, I think Zeo mentioned that Alkanphel at his fullest is 40x (guyver) strength. As for his ultimate attack, it's in book 15. Well, yes the others were assumptions since Balcus did use Alk's zoacrystal's to create his fellow zoalords. So I guess their powers are variations of what Alk can do. *shrugs* Hopefully the others can point out more stuff....
*zeo Posted November 29, 2004 Posted November 29, 2004 guyverfanatic, the 40x rating is for the fan fic power estimate, this is the official only Guyver section of the board. I understand the confusion but please be more careful in the future when giving out figures. It can be argued both ways on what abilities Alkanphel does and does not have. All we know for certain at this point is despite his weakened condition he is still the most powerful Zoalord and has a wide range of abilities yet to be revealed. drag-5 is correct on the abilities so far demonstrated. I'll just add that at his prime Alkanphel's ultimate attack pulverized a moon the Creators sent hurtling towards Earth, but a good sized chunk did get past him and sent the world into an ice age. This however did show that Alkanphel once had the power to cause enough destruction as to wipe out all life on the planet in a single attack if he had so wished. Additionally he has demonstrated enough telekinetic and/or spacial warping capability as to be able to redirect Guyver Mega Smashers a full 180 degrees which he demonstrated when he redirected a total of 3 mega smasher beams back towards G1 and G3 in the Manga. Besides that he has also piloted the Ark without the assistance of the other Zoalords, which as far as we know none of the other Zoalords can claim to do without the support of the other Zoalords.
guyverfanatic Posted November 30, 2004 Posted November 30, 2004 guyverfanatic, the 40x rating is for the fan fic power estimate, this is the official only Guyver section of the board. I understand the confusion but please be more careful in the future when giving out figures.It can be argued both ways on what abilities Alkanphel does and does not have. All we know for certain at this point is despite his weakened condition he is still the most powerful Zoalord and has a wide range of abilities yet to be revealed. drag-5 is correct on the abilities so far demonstrated. I'll just add that at his prime Alkanphel's ultimate attack pulverized a moon the Creators sent hurtling towards Earth, but a good sized chunk did get past him and sent the world into an ice age. This however did show that Alkanphel once had the power to cause enough destruction as to wipe out all life on the planet in a single attack if he had so wished. Additionally he has demonstrated enough telekinetic and/or spacial warping capability as to be able to redirect Guyver Mega Smashers a full 180 degrees which he demonstrated when he redirected a total of 3 mega smasher beams back towards G1 and G3 in the Manga. Besides that he has also piloted the Ark without the assistance of the other Zoalords, which as far as we know none of the other Zoalords can claim to do without the support of the other Zoalords. I stand corrected on his power range. Anywho, you are right about his abilities, hopefully we get to see more of qhat he is capable of in future volumes of The Guyver.
McAvoy Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 Valcus also once stated in one of the earlier books that even if all the other 11 zoalords working as one to defeat him, would not beat him. Whether or not that includes strength or abilities is not known. Though I generally think of him right now in his weakened state as a 20x character.
jedi-guyver Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 I would have to think that is far too high McAvoy. 4x seems far more likely in his weakend state, not 20x, thats a fan-fiction power range.
*Jess♥ Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 I believe when balcus said that all 11 would not beat him, he was implying that alkanphel s zoa crystals are implanted in them all. this means that he has some form of control over their actions coz they are in effect part of his body.
*zeo Posted December 9, 2004 Posted December 9, 2004 Well to some extent Alkanphel can influence the other Zoalords, after all he was made to be the head Zoalord. But Guyot trying to kill him with a black hole attack clearly shows that a strong will can still disobey him. So I actually lean towards McAvoy's estimate jedi-guyver, and btw the 4x is also a fan fic estimate as no actual estimate has been given by Takaya. Remember Alkanphel fought Guyot in his humanoid form and did not transform until he was hit by the Black Hole attack. Up to that point it looked like Guyot would not stand a chance against him. Then there is Guyot's own examples of power, he got hit by a single Mega Smash while in his full battle form and it took him a full day to recover while Alkanphel under similar circumstances was able to redirected three Mega Smasher beams back at the Guyvers with just a wave of his hand. Not to mention the statement that even all 11 Zoalords would not be able to stand against Alkanphel. True, Balcus may be exaggerating, after all he is Alkanphel's most trusted follower next to Imakarum. But the stunt Alkanphel pulled with piloting the Ark all by his lonesome shows his power exceeds 4x at the very least. Since it normally takes all 12 Zoalords to pilot the Ark. It's only his failing health and increasing need to rest that makes him seem weaker than he is but every time he does demonstrate his power it is clearly far beyond the capabilities of any of the other Zoalords. So even though he is far from his prime I think it would be a mistake to underestimate his remaining power.
Raven Posted December 9, 2004 Posted December 9, 2004 This might be a stupid question, but did the zoa-crystals that Alk gave to his Zaolords ever grow back? I mean, if you look at pictures from Alk, there are no "holes" where the crystals would have been (not that I know where they were on his body in the first place, but you know what I mean). Or maybe I'm just as blind as a mole Or maybe his body compensated and the wounds just healed without re-growing the crystals? ... Any ideas?
*Jess♥ Posted December 9, 2004 Posted December 9, 2004 I have been wondering that same thing for a very long time....... my thoughts were that they were in side his body. maybe like internal organs or something. either that or he gave birth to them! now theres a picture you'll cherish! good point about the black hole attack zeo. although mebbe thatwas coz he was human form? i mean when he was zoaform gyro just stood there riveted while alkanphel plucked the crystal out of his head. on the very same note murakami had the same riveting effect on the team five. obviously the zoalords full authrority is felt only when in battle form...
Guest Posted December 9, 2004 Posted December 9, 2004 When Alkanphel fought Guyver 0, we didn't see any zoacrystal in the shape of the ones in the other zoalords forhead. Well, there are a few exceptions, the perl for one, and I guess the Guyot shard is kinda like one of the oversized chest crystals. It's possible that these were pulled for the humans, then regrown. I don't like the regrowing thing because the whole point to Murikami's protozoa crystal is that Chronos was incapable of recreating a true zoacrystal-that like a guyver unit, zoacrystals were in limited numbers. I kinda like the idea of Alkanphel pulling the crystals from the outside though, like plucking seeds. That's a great image. I'm wondering how he would get the idea to tear himself open and go fishing for crystals? Maybe he would be 'feeling' the power sources inside him.
*zeo Posted December 10, 2004 Posted December 10, 2004 good point about the black hole attack zeo. although mebbe thatwas coz he was human form? i mean when he was zoaform gyro just stood there riveted while alkanphel plucked the crystal out of his head... Alkanphel riveted everyone, even Guyot felt it he just was able to resist it long enough to fire the black hole attack. The only one not riveted, as you put it, was Aptom and Alkanphel promptly tried to obliterate him for it. Zoalord Telepathy is not limited to their battle form as all the Zoalords have demonstrated the ability to control zoaforms without transforming themselves first. Though it is possible that Alkanphels telepathy is even stronger in his battle form, so that could have played a factor but Guyot was too weak at that point for us to be sure. The main reason Guyot just stood their later was because he had nothing left to fight with. He had used up most of his power creating the black hole attack and so could no longer resist Alkanphel's superior power. As for the origin of the Zoacrystals, it could very well be that the Crystals shapes were changed to reflect the specific powers and abilities of each Zoalord so they would no longer resemble the ones on Alkanphel, but until the exact process is revealed we can only guess at how Alkanphel managed it.
Guest Posted December 14, 2004 Posted December 14, 2004 Has anyone else ever thought why the creators didn't bother making all zoaforms as powerful as Alkanphel? If your trying to create an army to fight your wars for you, surely you want that army to be as powerful as possible? Why create an inferior army of zoanoids when you could create an army of zoalords as powerful as alkanphel? I'm probably going to answer my own question here but do you think Alkanphel was an after thought. A zoaform only made possible at the last minute after thousands of years of tweaking humans and zoanoids? Or was Alkanphels processing so long and difficult for the creators, that they decided to only create one prototype? What do you think guys?
Guest Posted December 14, 2004 Posted December 14, 2004 Zoalord's, or at least most zoalords have a major drawback. They seem to use up all their energy very quickly. This meens they can do something very cool, then must revert to human form. Alkanphel maybe different though, who knows. Alkanphel was also designed as a general for all zoanoids. It may be that his powers encompass the various types of zoa in order to understand those he controls, to feel the abilities sort of thing. Perhaps he is meant to add onto the abilities of those he commands. Kind of setting an example. When he orders his bioblasters to fire a salvo, he adds onto it; when he orders the sonics to fire a salvo, he screams too. Then again, foot soldiers are dispensable, generals need to defend themselves.
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