Guest Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 I have trouble reading your data files perhaps you could either change your backround from that really bright white to something darker. Also in your discription of your characters it might be better if you limited their bios to one or two short paragraphs (like five or at the most six sentences per paragraph). Just a piece of advice. Remember short and sweet. By the way is anyone else having the same problem?
guyverfanatic Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 I'm not having any problems reading the text, maybe you should highlight the text to read it better, that's what I do to read my friends' blog.
TheGuyversWill Posted December 4, 2003 Posted December 4, 2003 Well I guess I should reply to this, since someone was nice enough to post on my board. The Data files aren?t just meant to be like, say the warrior guyver data files. Unlike the Warrior Guyver fan fiction, the characters presented within my data file section, don?t have an entire fan fiction to cover their bio's. So instead, we try to give a quick summery of everything that?s ever happened in their respective lives. Now considering many of these characters have been around for nearly 7 years, ya got to put some length into them. As to the font base, well the white background is ideal for the site. My last site had a black background, and that was no longer pleasing. Funny thing is, people complained about the same thing last time, just in reverse. And thank you for taking the time to give them a look. I should have several new data files up within the next week. check back often?
Guest Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 Yeah I mean the DF's are cool and all but my problem is with the clash between the dark BR of the DF' and the white surrounding them. But they are quite neat and innovative.
Guest Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 First off you really need to do something about the Guyver-1 sytle character popping up repeatedly at the top of the page. It is very distracting as eyes are drawn to movement and it keeps doing it like 10 times a second. If there is some way for you to make that animation run slower I think it would be better page for it. Other then that I don't really like the characters datafiles and if they were in a fic would call it extreme use of a Mary Sue to the point it starts to become annoying and insulting. For example your being so presumptious as to declare the Kal-El Guyver "As powerful as the Christian God' in his datafile. I highly doubt that and I don't really care for you making the comparison. I suspect I'm not the only one who would/does feel that way.
TheGuyversWill Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 First off, thanks for your comments. I would like to note that the animated gif at the top of the page takes about 20 to 30 seconds to run through. It starts out with the two G1 styled units popping up, followed by a banner that says "The Guyver Strike Force".. Then that banner fades to show you a "GSF" logo. The GSF logo stands for about 10 seconds, before doing a camera shake, then pausing again for another 10 seconds, before doing another camera shake, then fading back and looping. If you dont see it like this, its the fault of the warrior guyver.com server, and its slow speeds. Refresh the page until you see it like this, you might like it better. Next, whats a Mary Sue? Kal-El isnt even close to being that powerful, and I doubt I would have referred to him in such a sense. Though I might have made mention of a character called "The Kousotsu". Kousotsu is an omnidimensional non linear being, a being merged with the very core of existence, at one with all points in time and space, at a singular point. This is about as close as one could come to being god in a scientific sense. If this offends you, I am sorry, but it is the way the character was designed. Anything else? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay so I looked up the term ?Mary Sue? and I would like to note, not all of us can be trekies. To start off, if you?re reading the data files, of course you?re going to come off with the impression that each character is focused on more so than another. This is suppose to just involve these singular characters. What you have to understand, is that from these characters mainly came about as a result of plot based role play. Within these plots anything and everything will happen. Perhaps if you would have taken the chance to read over the history of the group, you would be aware of this fact. The GSF started off as poor little girls, hookin? on the side of the street for some fresh cash, and through their evolution became one of the most powerful forces the world, in which they exist in, had ever seen. I would like to point out that most stories have an apparent Mary Sue, now not all of these ?Marry Sues? are bad. For example, within the warrior Guyver fan fiction, Jason O?Conner ends up being the main man, getting the chick, getting the ultra powerful upgrade and the like, but that?s the point of it. A story is suppose to have a main character, and that?s the person you?re suppose to focus on. The characters within the GSF, while very powerful, don?t happen to be the most perfect of beings, if you would have taken a look at GuyverUnit99, you might have noticed that he came from a long line of failures. Trials and tribulations are meant to occur, but sometimes you just have this hero that wont quit, who does everything by the book, and stands by his word, every story usually has at least one of these, I mean, look at Sho. Even within the world of Guyver we find such characters quite prevalent, while Sho might not be the greatest of fighters, the story centers around him, I mean, he did get the Gigantic upgrade, he does have a really cute girlfriend, he was the first to receive a Guyver. I bet those little zoanoids he kills daily sure think he?s quite the ?Mary Sue?. What I don?t get, is if the concept of having a main character, that the majority of a writing is going to focus on offends you, how could you be a fan of modern literature at all? In closing? I stress in closing.. Mary Sue?s exist within all points of literature, having a bad Mary Sue is another thing though. Read the entirety of a work before you get offend by that fact that someone just compared their character to a fictional god that you bow down before. Some of us tend to worship advents, while others choose Buda.
Kaiser Dragoon Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Ok I could be stepping into uncharted waters but what the hell, its all about making waves. I would like to note, not all of us can be trekies First off I understand the fact that you do not follow the Star Trek series, I do not care for it much either, but come on, no need to throw that cheap shot in there about everyone not being able to be Trekies, I'm sure you can illustrate your point without resorting to comments like that. What I don?t get, is if the concept of having a main character, that the majority of a writing is going to focus on offends you, how could you be a fan of modern literature at all? I don't know about you TheGuyversWill but how can you be so presumptuous to make a statement such as that? FOG3 is not by any means degrading your entire storyline, but I believe FOG3 is referring to the obvious comparison to the religious context of it. In case you have not noticed there are people out there who are not only religious but Christian as well, and to refer characters in a context like that has to be met with the more the obvious reaction that people will not like the idea and please tell me I'm reading this out of context. Read the entirety of a work before you get offend by that fact that someone just compared their character to a fictional god that you bow down before. Did you just say that the Christian God is fictional? Now I don't know how in world you can make that call without turning this into a very big and nasty mud slinging event of is there a Christian God or not. As for your last quip Some of us tend to worship advents, while others choose Buda. Now would you be in that order that worships Advents from that statement or was that another cheap shot to those who do believe in a higher power? Or am I assuming too much and that you do choose Buda?Therefore in my closing, I respect the fact that you may not "believe" in a Christian God, but to be ignorant in such a way that you dismiss the idea entirely is disappointing to come from what I believed was an intelligent human being. So I'll leave you to go bow down and worship youre beloved Advents or was it Buda? *Edit* It has been brought to my attention that the profile link on TheGuyversWill is different from his actual website so I must make retractions to some of my statements involving inaccessable links and have removed such material accordingly.
TheGuyversWill Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 First off I understand the fact that you do not follow the Star Trek series, I do not care for it much either, but come on, no need to throw that cheap shot in there about everyone not being able to be Trekies, I'm sure you can illustrate your point without resorting to comments like that. I am a major trekie to a certain extent. I've seen most every episode, except the new enterprise.. The term Mary Sue, as I understand it, Comes from a rare novel done within the name of Star Trek. Wesley Crusher himself being modeled after Gene Rodenberry(sp) would be a nice example of such a term. I don't know about you TheGuyversWill but how can you be so presumptuous to make a statement such as that? FOG3 is not by any means degrading your entire storyline, by the way I attempted on numerous occasions to access this infamous RPG board itself to see these events and so far have been denied access every time, Sorry, I haven?t updated my profile in quite some time. Perhaps you should look at the front page of "WarriorGuyver.com" there has been a new site added to it. http://www.warriorguyver.com/gsf/ would be a more direct link. GuyverUnit99 has been listed under the Data files, and the History should show you most of that. I'll be adding more RP's along the way, as well as data files. Right now I?m working on the Guyver fan Archive though. Did you just say that the Christian God is fictional? Now I don't know how in world you can make that call without turning this into a very big and nasty mud slinging event of is there a Christian God or not. As for your last quip Yes I?m saying the Christian God is fictional. If you have a problem with that, go talk to Zeus, and while you're at it, throw a line to Herra if you would. Oh and one more thing, where can I find information on the example of GuyverUnit99 because I can't seem to find him within your Roster list? Covered this, check out the front page of warriorguyver.com Therefore in my closing, I respect the fact that you may not "believe" in a Christian God, but to be ignorant in such a way that you dismiss the idea entirely is disappointing to come from what I believed was an intelligent human being. So I'll leave you to go bow down and worship you?re beloved Advents or was it Buda? Would it have been better if I said Hebrew god? or perhaps some south American deity? I don?t bow to Buda, I'm just saying, Some people don?t believe in advents, some people don?t believe in Hinduism, some people don?t believe in ancient Mayan culture. Religion in itself is a basis for the hierarchy of a civilization to press morals upon the ignorant and unknowing. It has been this way since the dawn of man. These morals might be "Go sacrifice your first born to the sun god, as to provide us a good harvest next year" or "Accept that a man was the son of god, or be damned to eternal hell". Take your pick, I aint buying that sour milk.
Kaiser Dragoon Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Hmm I wonder how this will last before the admins lock the topic Yes I?m saying the Christian God is fictional. If you have a problem with that, go talk to Zeus, and while you're at it, throw a line to Herra if you would. Oh I have no problem at all I was just curious, so you don't believe in a Christian God and by going by your line of thought looks like there isn't any religion you believe in, I personally take no offence to this but unless you can give concise proof that there is no such thing as a high being it remains an open case. As for the updating of your profile thanks, now I wonder how many others did the same as me? I will go talk to Zeus, and while you're at it, throw a line to Herra see how she's doing for all anyone knows they could still very well exist. Maybe they might know more about this they might have a more open mindset...
Guest Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Making friends already eh Will? *Prods his way with a grin* As for my piece in this; sad to say. A lot of those "Ultra powerful godlike beat down everyone" type characters have earned that reputation and outright power. I've seen most of them RPing and outright in action anyways; minus a select few and to say the least; nothing is really over exaggerated (Dunno iffen I spelt that right or not, but oh well). As for saying the profiles are to long...? Eh...sorry, but there not. Those, in a lotta peoples eyes that have seen a lot of the stuff that Will can do, seem rather short. This I know from personal experience and such. *Twitch* More then experience for that matter. Anyways; that's my part..
Guest Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 (edited) Before this discusion becomes any more, well anymore you know what, but for the sake of having to use a word I will choose "heated". I would like to ask has anyone here actually spoken to someone who is a Christain, and I don't mean someone who simply says they are a Christian I am speaking about someone who really does follow the religion, who really believes in it because before I say anything else or this goes any further someone who has plz raise they're hand. EDIT: I'am speaking fanaticly Sith. Edited December 11, 2003 by Guest
Guest Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 (edited) Do you mean fanatically, or just your average practacing Christian (Which I am)? Everyone is entitled to their own views. I don't denounce anyone elses diety or higher power and I don't impose mine on others; who knows they may be right. And whats not to say that a higher power just introduced all these other religions just for a variety in worshipers. And as much as I'd like to continue I'll stop here; I'm not going to get into a philisophical debate here; If you'd like to PM me. And Will, They're great Data Files and Rpgs. I have no problem with them. Edit: I stand corrected Sparky. Edited December 14, 2003 by Guest
TheGuyversWill Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 Thanks for your comments everyone.. No more flaming or I'll be forced to lock the topic! I know, I know, I started it.. but yeah.. we can have a reasonable discussion without becoming too irrational. Anyways, My mother happens to be an evangelist, I call her a sheep to her face!
teknoguyver Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 Ok this topic is way off base. i thought we were talking about the data files and the lay out of the site. anyway this is a guyver message board people. once again this is a "Guyver Message Board." we're mostly here to talk about how much we all like guyver along with some other animes. this is not the place for the never ending argument of who's god is real and who's isn't. so i ask you all to step back and look for some common ground like say...guyver? personally i could careless who you worship and why. each person is different, has a different histroy, and a different reason for doing things. if we were all the same life would be boring. so in closeing "you be you and i'll be me, but we'll walk down this road together." fair enough?
Guest Posted December 13, 2003 Posted December 13, 2003 I don't know how this happend either teknoguyver. I appoligize if somehow my question should have been worded differently; but truthfully I can't imagine how this disscussion got so off topic. Oh and by the way FOG3, Kaiser Dragoon. You guys are the mods for crying out loud you should know by now the rules for disscussion in each forum, and what is to be disscused in each one accordingly. This is really pathetic I meran this is the first and only messageboard I have been on and I have already learned the rule pretty quickly with only a few reprimands. Anyway back on the topic I love the site Guyverswill and keep up the good work. And to everyone including Guyverswill that was involved in that debate lighten up. This is how wars start, and I like wars (note this is not sarchasm). Oh and Guyverswill would you consider working on some different Guyver designs I mean I think the ones you have are neat. However I think there should be characters with more graphic detail to them.
TheGuyversWill Posted December 13, 2003 Posted December 13, 2003 Okay, if you?ll notice there are no rules on this portion of the message board. The only rule I really like for this part of the board would be ?No double posting?. Otherwise, debates and the like are great. I mean it is suppose to be a message board dedicated to the Guyver Strike Force. Being that is the case, such topics as ?Your character claims to be God? is a great topic to discuss. The feelings, and personal understanding of each and every aspect of the character are up for debate. I?m cool with this, as long as we don?t start cursing at one another in vulgar displays. As far as the Guyver designs go, One of my friends is working on a new picture for Spider Guyver. Brian is suppose to be coloring a picture I drew ages ago for Kal-El, but who knows when that will be done. Any further alterations to the picture designs are up for grabs. Perhaps if I had a talented artist who would like to contribute some work, I could change the other pictures. As always, thanks for your comments, and I look forward to future ones; Will PS: I should have some more updates for the site coming soon, so check back regularly. PSS: This one would be going out to FOG3, if you would like to see more information on the way these characters interact with one another in a story format, check out the archive section of the site. The Role plays in the center column partially cover the creation of a separate Guyver unit, one that would become ?Guyver-Kousotsu? ( She was to be named after the one who ?made? her. )
Kaiser Dragoon Posted December 13, 2003 Posted December 13, 2003 Oh and by the way FOG3, Kaiser Dragoon. You guys are the mods for crying out loud Weltall2, I am far from a mod, I "fell from grace" quite a while ago. I understand the rules of the forum and my original post was in response to what Will originally said, but I recognize what Tekno is saying and agree with him on what he said. I do however look forward to seeing these pictures of Spider Guyver just out of curiosity.
Guest Posted December 17, 2003 Posted December 17, 2003 Oh and by the way FOG3, Kaiser Dragoon. You guys are the mods for crying out loud you should know by now the rules for disscussion in each forum, and what is to be disscused in each one accordingly. This is really pathetic I meran this is the first and only messageboard I have been on and I have already learned the rule pretty quickly with only a few reprimands. A) Since when did I become a mod? As much as I might like to be one Sully's never asked, even though I sort of single handedly caused the Guyver Scientist section of the board to come into existence. B) I was offering suggestions to improve the data files as I saw them when I wrote the post. C) Don't strawman me. How is offering suggestions wrong here? After all that was what you started the thread to do, no? Your personal suggestions yes but it didn't seem that necessary to start a new thread for each person's suggestions. D)Yes, if were going to debate possible mary-sue a seperate thread would be good but I didn't exactly eexpect people to be commenting on what I stated as an opinion. TheGuyversWill, your right the gif just wasn't loading properly for me. It just looped the first part where they popped up and didn't proceed which as you can imagine gets a little annoying after a while. Okay your right you were comparing this Kousotsu to the Christian God. It wasn't very clear what you were actually saying and as it was in Kal-El's datafile and you didn't make it that clear you were talking about another character or who Kousotsu was I figured you must be talking about the person the datafile was about. My mistake. I still think that isn't the best analogy. You can say god-like or godesque or something of the kind without aggravating people but to compare it to the diety of the biggest religion on the planet is asking for trouble. I'll look at that archive later. Wish me luck on my final. And may you have a good day.
WarriorZoalord Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 Hey TGW Just in case you don't know, you might want to check out the GuyverUnit99 Data File, the picture is overlapping some of the text so it's hard to read.
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