McAvoy Posted October 31, 2003 Posted October 31, 2003 I agree with you Grendel. If you think about it, the Grakkens happened after the Guyver Zoalord. Whatever happened to the great threat that warranted such a being like Alkanphel and Zeugma, is perhaps gone or held at bay. But what if this ultimate enemy that Alknbaphel was supposed to face was the Darmon being? Think about it, in All Thinks Change Part 1, there was a discription of a being that was a greater threat than that of a Guyver Zoalord. Now if I were to guess, the being at that time was around the power of Alkanphel, since, if Darmon was stronger, they would make more Alkanphels. No, they stayed with one, which makes me believe the original Darmon being is around the Zeugma lower rnage to the Alkanphel upper range power level. Though if Crystalite with a small fragment can make a 4x chracter equal to a 25x character, then the Darmon being (based on pre-Warrior Project units) could produce a 1x Guyver to a 40x Guyver or more. Then imagine if he got hold of more advanced and more powerful units. But this is just a theory, since it took Psi Guyver a mere fragment of the Hunter's crystal to produce Crystalite. So the Darmon being could do the same. Perhaps, Darmon is purely a 40x character without a unit, which is far more likely, so therefore, merging with a even a Guyver unit, would make him far more powerful than a Guyver Zoalord could ever be.
Azaar Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 Sith Guyver wrote: All right, I'm stupid. Could you explain what Darmon is and these orange Kavzars please? Also how they may be the big villan? I think my mind has left me, so please bear with me. The orange Kavzar have been making a few appearances over the course of the WG fics. Who controls them has yet to be determined, although there are numerous rumors and opinions regarding them. Darmon, a bit more has been established about: Life-Force Guyver was the first Warrior Unit to have a Darmon-based energy draining system (yeah, Darmon was evidently some sort of energy vampire or something, at least from what I've read so far), and it took over when LFG's HSL system bombed out during the Supreme Test against Guyver Supreme. Reaper Guyver also has a Darmon-based energy draining system that functions through the scythe that Reaper Guyver carries with him (I think it works even without the scythe, but the scythe does make it more powerful, sorta like Ninja Guyver's HSL enhancements through his power sword). McAvoy wrote: I agree with you Grendel. If you think about it, the Grakkens happened after the Guyver Zoalord. Whatever happened to the great threat that warranted such a being like Alkanphel and Zeugma, is perhaps gone or held at bay. But what if this ultimate enemy that Alknbaphel was supposed to face was the Darmon being? Think about it, in All Thinks Change Part 1, there was a discription of a being that was a greater threat than that of a Guyver Zoalord. Now if I were to guess, the being at that time was around the power of Alkanphel, since, if Darmon was stronger, they would make more Alkanphels. No, they stayed with one, which makes me believe the original Darmon being is around the Zeugma lower rnage to the Alkanphel upper range power level. Though if Crystalite with a small fragment can make a 4x chracter equal to a 25x character, then the Darmon being (based on pre-Warrior Project units) could produce a 1x Guyver to a 40x Guyver or more. Then imagine if he got hold of more advanced and more powerful units. But this is just a theory, since it took Psi Guyver a mere fragment of the Hunter's crystal to produce Crystalite. So the Darmon being could do the same. Perhaps, Darmon is purely a 40x character without a unit, which is far more likely, so therefore, merging with a even a Guyver unit, would make him far more powerful than a Guyver Zoalord could ever be. Heh, I was wondering when you'd show up, McAvoy. I figured you'd have chipped in by now. I won't argue with the reasoning here, but I still think Darmon could be the threat. There are always possibilities, and the chance that Darmon might eventually (if not already) obtain a Unit-G is a possibility worth considering. Makes you wonder, though... perhaps it wasn't solely the fear of a Guyver Zoalord appearing when the Creators left Earth the first time, but also perhaps the fear of Darmon getting a Unit-G and activating it. If that were the case, then McAvoy's calculations seem pretty consistent.
Sully Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 (edited) It is worth pointing out the WG units have the Darmon system as a backup power system. Life Force Guyver did have an HSL until it failed badly thanks to Supreame. Then that all Warrior Units have that same backup system. Edited November 1, 2003 by Guest
Azaar Posted November 1, 2003 Posted November 1, 2003 Huh... I'd thought that LFG was the first to have Darmon's energy-draining system in addition to the HSL. Now I have to wonder if the 2nd and 3rd Warrior Unit prototypes also had Darmon energy-draining capabilities or not...
Guest Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 If you check, i think you will find that One of the creators told Jason that his warrior unit would revert to its life-draining technique should its HSL fail. It would fill him with hate and stuff for his enimies, driving him to absorb thier bio-energy. Now that I think about it... looking at the creator track record, I'll be money that they were tampering with this Darmon life form and got themselves in trouble.
McAvoy Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 I wonder if all the HSL equipped Guyvers have a backup Darmon unit. If not then somewhere along the line, Solom decided to put such a backup in one of the units. Then again if you think about it, probably around in the 2nd or 3rd Warrior Prototypes, Solom switched from the WG2 design to the WG1 design, which could mean he thought of the Darmon backup system way back in the say. On the other hand, he must have prototyped design on some unit, maybe after the Shadow unit G-3, to make it viable. You just don't blindly put a untested design as a backup, because what if the HSL did fail, and the backup failed as well? What would the point of having a backup if it did not work in the first place? End of my little rant. It is clearly evident now that the Darmon lifeform is older than the WG Project if they were deciding to base the backup system on it. This supports the idea that the Great Threat that was discribed in All Things Change Part 1, as the Darmon Lifeform they were talking about.
Matt Bellamy Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 I wonder if all the HSL equipped Guyvers have a backup Darmon unit. If not then somewhere along the line, Solom decided to put such a backup in one of the units. Then again if you think about it, probably around in the 2nd or 3rd Warrior Prototypes, Solom switched from the WG2 design to the WG1 design, which could mean he thought of the Darmon backup system way back in the say. On the other hand, he must have prototyped design on some unit, maybe after the Shadow unit G-3, to make it viable. You just don't blindly put a untested design as a backup, because what if the HSL did fail, and the backup failed as well? What would the point of having a backup if it did not work in the first place? End of my little rant.It is clearly evident now that the Darmon lifeform is older than the WG Project if they were deciding to base the backup system on it. This supports the idea that the Great Threat that was discribed in All Things Change Part 1, as the Darmon Lifeform they were talking about. Well we've seen what happens when the back up power system in a WG unit does when it cannot get any power. Remember when Life Force Guyver was found? He was basically a corpse, until somethign with bio-energy got close enough, and he was brought back to life.
Azaar Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 Now that I think about it... looking at the creator track record, I'll be money that they were tampering with this Darmon life form and got themselves in trouble. This is the main reason I'm betting on Darmon being a precursor to Hunter and (indirectly) Crystalite, as well as Life-Force Guyver and Reaper Guyver. Although, in Hunter's case, the Grakkens certainly didn't help matters, but even so, the Creators still made things much worse by toying with him again (since Hunter was originally Creator tech anyway). I wonder if all the HSL equipped Guyvers have a backup Darmon unit. If not then somewhere along the line, Solom decided to put such a backup in one of the units. Then again if you think about it, probably around in the 2nd or 3rd Warrior Prototypes, Solom switched from the WG2 design to the WG1 design, which could mean he thought of the Darmon backup system way back in the say. On the other hand, he must have prototyped design on some unit, maybe after the Shadow unit G-3, to make it viable. You just don't blindly put a untested design as a backup, because what if the HSL did fail, and the backup failed as well? What would the point of having a backup if it did not work in the first place? End of my little rant. I dunno if all the HSL-equipped Guyvers have the Darmon backup. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, though, to discover that Solom added the Darmon backup in either the 2nd or 3rd WG prototypes.
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