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Differences between male and female Guyvers
Moonraker One replied to Enzyme-eternal's topic in Philosophy
The female zoanoid thing is a bit off topic since there are other threads for that. But here's a thought: if the zoanoid optimization process made women sterile, why wouldn't it make males sterile? And we know male zoanoids aren't sterile, because after the Creators left, Murakami said that the zoanoid DNA became diluted over time due to zoanoids mating with ordinary, non-processed humans. That, and the fact that the Creators were looking for bioweapons. Why wouldn't they want reproducible bioweapons? I personally think it's just because all of the Zoalords (Guyot doesn't count since he's no longer with them) grew up before the modern era of "gender equality." So, if the optimization process really did sterilize females, it would be a huge detriment to the creators. Because I think they'd want to be able to have a male gregole and a female gregole have a few babies who are also gregoles, just as an example. But back to the topic, I believe that the unit is smart enough to realize what works with your body and what doesn't, otherwise it'd kill all the helpful bacteria in your body and you'd have a problem. I believe if it is smart enough to know what "good bacteria" are, it knows to keep the fetus alive. And even if its natural reaction would be "it's feeding off her blood, kill it," her will power would overcome that, just as Sho's will power kept the unit from attaching to him after he killed his father. -
Differences between male and female Guyvers
Moonraker One replied to Enzyme-eternal's topic in Philosophy
I would like to believe that if the Guyver truly is a "instant human remodeling system" as the VDF points out, that it would stop the compounding effects that lead to aging (because aging is caused by things building on top of other things, a compounding effect). It wouldn't be hard for a Guyver to do so, because in a situation of a compounding effect, all you have to do is stop one of the processes and the entire process as a whole comes to a stop. However, it's only been at most three years since the start of the manga; I'm even willing to go as far as four, although I don't really think it's longer than three. That isn't what's important. What is important is that, since it's only been three years at most, we're not going to notice a significant change in how Sho or Agito look if they were aging naturally without a Guyver unit. So all we have is conjecture. I would like to believe that the Guyver stops the processes of aging in your human form, but for all we know, you could still be aging in your human form and simply be brought back to the way you were. That would lend credence to the theory that bioboosting would be harmful to a pregnant woman, since the "data" that was her baby would be eliminated. But, if it doesn't do it that way, and it truly eliminates aging in your human form, that would mean it doesn't "save state" you completely, and that would mean the possibility exists that it wouldn't do anything bad to the baby. As per a question, even if the Creators do not "mate" like we do, they would have to reproduce some way, even if it is asexual reproduction. Think about it; if you are not organic in some way, the Guyver cannot bond with you. So, they'd have to be organic. Organic beings reproduce two ways: Asexually, and Sexually. Asexual reproduction is one parent producing offspring, as opposed to sexual reproduction where two parents are required to produce an offspring. Even if they create offspring inside their bodies that are exact clones of the original creator, they would still have to deal somehow with the unit and how would it affect the offspring. However, if you think about it, Asexual reproduction (the only alternative to sexual reproduction) would require them to put contingency programming into the unit more so than sexual reproduction, because asexual reproduction means the Creators would have no gender, and each being would be capable of reproducing. In that instance, they would not have "males" or "females," because you only have genders if your species undergoes sexual reproduction." So if they don't mate, which means they don't have sexual reproduction, they would all be one gender (because bacteria that reproduce asexually don't have gender), and that would mean they would DEFINITELY have to put programming in to deal with it. But if they do mate-which would create a situation in which one gender would not need such programming-then the organisms would probably think to make it possible for a pregnant female to bioboost without harming the baby. I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong, because until we get info from Takaya, there is no "right" answer. I'm just trying to convince people that it is POSSIBLE. -
Differences between male and female Guyvers
Moonraker One replied to Enzyme-eternal's topic in Philosophy
Both of you bring up a very good point. It doesn't necessarily have to be a living computer, because it could be a crystalline computer matrix like you said, but the point is, it is still a computer. It would have to be some kind of computer in order to process and store data. So it would have to have some form of programming to know how to do what it does. And, per the other statement, you're right, it isn't entirely impossible that the Creators only wore it in such situations as they were in space or on a hazardous alien planet. However, since accidents happen, what if one of the creators' female beings injured, for instance, her leg while pregnant. It isn't an injury that would affect the baby, but since she's used to bioboosting to immediately remove the injury (which is what Sho did when Aptom impaled him in the cave, he bioboosted to immediately remove the injury), she bioboosts. Then what? I'm convinced the Creators had SOME kind of system in place that would allow a female to bioboost and not cause detrimental harm to the baby. It would just make sense that a species that advanced would do something like that. Because if you have females of your species who cannot bioboost for several months while a fetus is developing, that is a period in which many bad things could happen. And I refuse to believe that a species THAT advanced as to create life on Earth, would not find SOME way of dealing with that particular issue. -
Differences between male and female Guyvers
Moonraker One replied to Enzyme-eternal's topic in Philosophy
Here's a thought. The control medal would have to be a living computer. To know how to store information about the host and what form to store it in, and to know exactly what form the weapons are in, and how to use them, and especially hyper-defense mode, it would have to be a living computer programmed how to do what it does. This fact must be true, because how else would it know how to do what it does? It has to have some kind of programming. Knowing this, certainly the Creators would program the units to properly deal with the issue of a bioboosted pregnant woman. If you think about it, it really isn't a complicated issue to think about. -
Differences between male and female Guyvers
Moonraker One replied to Enzyme-eternal's topic in Philosophy
I like the idea that the woman would bioboost, and the baby would be stored in a protective shell of booster tissue in the boost dimension, fed by energy. And another thing, we have to stop thinking of the parasite as the main entity here. Yes, the parasite itself is what does 99 percent of a Guyver's functions, but remember, the parasite has a mind of its own and the control medal is what's suppressing that. If the control medal is capable of adapting to almost any situation-like Murakami said it was-then certainly it can find SOME way of protecting the baby if the mother wants it protected. Here's an idea: maybe the unit would develop the fetus' internal organs as if the woman were already nine months pregnant, and the unit would keep her from disengaging until it sensed through what she was seeing and hearing that she was out of danger, because she would have to give birth shortly after disengaging the unit. -
Differences between male and female Guyvers
Moonraker One replied to Enzyme-eternal's topic in Philosophy
In the end, though, I highly doubt any of this discussion will matter because Takaya is probably never going to touch on the subject. I had several ideas, though. The idea of the woman's desire to protect the baby, if she thought the unit would harm it, would probably be strong enough to prevent bioboosting. But here's a thought: what if the woman thought the Guyver would serve as the ultimate protection? What if she thought, "hey, it can prevent me from dying. I can bioboost, and it will prevent my baby from miscarrying!" Think about it this way: how did Sho gain each of his weapons in the new anime? He wanted something that would help him in a certain situation, and the control medal responded. Why couldn't the woman think, "My baby MUST live until I can give birth to it, it MUST be protected," and the unit would protect the fetus as well? The point of debate here should not be, "DOES it do this or not?" because we're never going to get an answer to solidify one side or the other. Rather, we should be focused on, "This is a possibility, DOES it make sense?" Maybe the unit would atrophy all of the reproductive tissue, but put the fetus in a special casing of biobooster tissue, fed with energy from the boost dimension? Or maybe if a woman bioboosts during her pregnancy, the unit fully develops the fetus into an infant, so that it'll be as if she were nine months in already when she goes back to human form? -
Differences between male and female Guyvers
Moonraker One replied to Enzyme-eternal's topic in Philosophy
I would imagine that since the Guyver enhances the host's physical strength one hundred times, it would only matter if the male Guyver was dramatically more powerful before bioboosting than the female was before bioboosting. Lisker would probably be more physically powerful than this female Guyver, because hey, his arms weren't small. But I'm willing to bet Sho would probably be almost equal to this female Guyver in physical strength because Sho is no Dave Batista. And about the pregnant woman with a Guyver thing, I highly doubt Takaya will touch on such a thing or explain what would happen. But here's how I would imagine it. Maybe if the woman who had the unit had just had sex, then bioboosting right then would act as a morning-after pill kind of effect. However, if the woman was somewhere about seven or eight months pregnant, where the fetus had already developed a beating heart and brain wave patterns, perhaps the Guyver would somehow recognize that since it has parts of the DNA of it's host, it's an offspring of the host, and it would surround it with biobooster tissue and protect and feed it until the woman went back to her human form. Or maybe it would simply see it feeding off the blood supply of the host and kill it as a harmful parasite. We aren't going to know. But, I'd hope the former of those two options.