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  1. I don't think the human had anything to do with why Guyver0 attacked. I admit though that some of my reasoning could be erroneous and directly contradictory to some of the facts in the manga that I can't remember rightly. The Creators put a guyver unit on their creation - a creation they controlled. The question is how they controlled it. Did the Creators just talk and expect to be obeyed, or like Alkanphel, did they have mental control over their creations? I go with that theory. Alkanphel can directly control any Zoa-form. So I believe the Creators could control their creations. So they could control the human. Then they stuck the Guyver unit on the human. The human is probably thinking 'all is good, all is right, I'm with the Gods' but the Unit feels the mental command and interprets it as an attack and bingo, mass slaughter of everything else sent to stop it. So yep, it's a form of defence mode but I do like Adolphus' suggestion of attack instinct being the only one left. Plus I thought there was a time, just after Sho got the unit where he was unconscious. So once Guyver0 began attacking back, and the Creators couldn't maintain mental control, they thought it 'rebelled' and did everything they could to stop it. Even if they thought it was defence mode, which they might, then the Unit really should have recognised others - those on the Creators - and not attacked them but I don't think they'd have destroyed Guyver0 unless they thought they were at risk. Having a bio-engineered super-weapon that you can't control is a pretty big risk.
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  2. Defense mode. Pretty sure that was confirmed. 0 is definitely my favourite Guyver. Wish we saw more of him, or what happened to his unit. I'd like to think Alky has it somewhere, but it is damaged? Or that's how Apollon came about, perhaps.
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  3. Humans are roughly half a million years old, but we've changed over the two million years due to various racial and regional factors causing a diverse gene pool. Human when first in existence were more closely resembling of the neanderthals about 500,000 years ago is when modern humans finally diverged from Neanderthal. We know that Waferdonus is older than Alky, but Alky is based some time after the first homo sapiens were created which means he's potentially 500,000. However, during his time period, there was no ice age, I believe a major ice age took place after he destroyed the interplanetary object hurtled at earth. So his age should be closer to that period when one of our ice ages hit the last half million years. There have been several. Roughly every 80 thousand years there was one, but get then nearest one next to the dawn of humanity, and you'll learn the answer.
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  4. Looks wise Alkanphel is very modern, so that puts him as being quite young - comparatively, which leads to a question of why other humans looked so primitive. So perhaps Alkanphel just remembers them. One of the implications I'm remembering though was that the Creators were here and created all sorts of life forms - lots of them! Some of which I believe went through several mass extinctions, which to me would imply that the Creators didn't like their first attempts and wiped them out. This is shown when Murakami is explaining the history of Chronos, which you could say is a human misconception of time but it also happens when Sho is in the ship in Mt Minakami. The ship shows him a lot of different life forms, including dinosaurs and life from the ice age about 10,000 years back. Then it shows him ape like humans. It's hard to say what they are. They could be Australopithecus afarensis which are about 3.5million years old. If you wanted to push it, you could say they were Homo erectus but I'd probably say Homo habilis. (yes, I went to Wiki for a quick time line search of human evolution.) The next page shows a bald modern human, but with a lot of species in the background, species that definitely have mass extinctions between them. Why do I bring this up? Just to say that the Creators were on Earth for a very long time and if they were responsible for one attempted mass extinction, then who's to say that they weren't responsible for the others? Whatever survives those mass extinctions has to be stronger than the others species that died. And that's what they wanted. (Which leads me to an off-topic and disturbing thought that there could have been several versions of Alkanphel or an Alkanphel type being to lead the others. T-Rex Alkanphel anyone?) What does this say about Alkanphel? I'd say that he's definitely not 3 million years old, unless they somehow came up with a modern human then had to evolve the rest, or the Creators evolved Alkanphel with the rest of the humans so that during Homo habilis' time, that's what he looked like. As has been said, it's difficult to say and I'd have to look through my manga a bit more to see more references. I know I'm forgetting some useful pages. Based simply off the way he looks, 300,000 years with the Ice Age that the asteriod caused being the most recent one, which doesn't necessarily fit with other evidence. But to take a bite at the cherry each way, you could say he's 2-3 million years old too but that makes him very young when he stopped the Asteriod. The implication from the what I got to check, is that it was a modern human with a Guyver that caused the Creators to leave. Which doesn't invalidate Alkanphel being 2-3million years old, just means that either they created him to be modern or they evolved him with the rest.
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