This is the discussion topic for the wiki article: Kamen Rider Kabuto

This will be part of my Project Toku Wiki (PTW). Seeing that it is impossible for me to convert all Japanese Tokusatsu related wiki pages to English, I will start by what ever I am watching. As I am currently watching Kabuto, I will update this page bit by bit as I progress with the show.

Already doing the cast of characters. Seeing that there are a lot of information regarding the characters, perhaps we should consider putting the cast of characters into a separate page?

What do you guys think?

Also, thanks to the Japanese wiki, I read spoilers which was not found in the English wiki. perhaps a warning should be placed?

oh dear, I'm sorry to hear it got spoiled dude.

I agree with you, we should use spoilers.

perhaps i can program a little box or something to use for spoilers.

and yes, we should definately use separate pages for large amounts of information. last time i tried to edit a large page, my computer swallowed the information and the page ended up blank XD

I was thinking of something similar to the Japanese wiki. "These page contains spoilers, please click the link to skip the spoilers" at the top of the page.

But you really can't help reading spoilers, since a wiki in itself is already a spoiler. Why else would anyone want to read the wiki in the first place but to find out about the series?

i think a wiki can contain lots of general information such as who plays what character etc...

a person might skim the page looking for something specific. a major plot spoiler of something that happens toward the end of a series should really be hidden. because a person won't know to hide their eyes from it because they will not be aware of it.

either it should be hidden or it should not be included.

Okay, made some minor research and it seems that the skip function is a template in the wiki. Just a small link in the top page warning you about spoilers and giving you the option to "skip" the spoiler which will put you somewhere in the bottom of the page where no spoilers are present.

Also, I was wondering how I should go about this page. Should I entirely remove anything that would have spoilers or just add the skip spoiler part?

oh, that's cool. to skip spoilers.

actually, Since i have seen Kabuto, I know what these spoilers are.

I think that the certain spoilers should just be left out.

oh, I think that perhaps we can have a spoiler free page if you think there are a lot of places where the spoiler is written.. we can have 2 pages. the pages are the same except one has teh spoilers one does not. one page is kamen_rider_kabuto and one is kamen_rider_kabuto_spoilerfree.

what do you think?

I don't know about having 2 set of pages since I'm only copying the Japanese wiki. Having 2 pages means additional time and effort from me. One thing is that some information requires a spoiler. Like how Kick and Punch hopper came about since they were introduced pretty late in the series. But I do agree about leaving out certain spoilers like who Hiyori's real identity is, but I'm not entirely sure as to the extent about the other spoilers. In the Japanese wiki, the skip spoiler link will put you directly to the cast/actors section. And since Project Toku Wiki involves copying the Japanese wiki, it might be easier if we just put a skip link.

well i will leave that to you then.

I trust your judgement and this is your project. I'm happy that i have provided sufficient alternatives for you to consider

Update:

Added a few more characters in the list of characters. Also move the list of characters into it's own page as it is too long.

Also, I only recently noticed, the Japanese wiki has this standard wiki warning on top of the page indicating an important discussion. Summary of discussion is to "reduce the summary of the subject".

I think I may be way over my head on this. Perhaps someone might be interested in cutting out any spoiler information after I'm done with this. Well in any case, I'll just continue as is, and let someone else modify this later.

either case, i think 1.7 in cast of characters should definately be removed.

Yup, removed it. I think I'm going to have to edit some of the info here. Already finished some of the characters omitting potential spoilers like Tadokoro being a Native and Misaki falling for a Worm Tsurugi. Feel free to edit should I miss something.

I'm going to re-edit the whole wiki once I'm done to limit the spoilers. As it is right now, the spoilers are just too blatant.

Finished the list of characters and is currently working on the main page. Already finished the Kabuto section with the exception of tools.

Feel free to edit the list of characters.

ok, I changed a little bit.

I just wrote 'spoilers to follow'

I think that is sufficient.

Added a few more info on the riders. Also, created a succession box template which you will see at the bottom of the page. Took me a little research to finish that, and I hope this would make it easier to navigate the Kamen Rider series. Already added the said template to the bottom page of Den-O and Kiva.

oh wow! nice one!

durendal, you are pretty good with coding. I'm impressed.

I added a little formatting to the table if that's ok. I hope you don't mind, feel free to change it back if that was specifically how you wanted it.

Thanks for that, I was actually trying to figure out how to do that.

Also, would it be alright if I add another template at the bottom of the page linking to the different rider series like the one they have in Wikipedia?

I'm almost done with this one. After I'm through with Kabuto, the next one on my list is Blade. Already seen episode 1, and will only watch episode 2 when I'm finished with this one.

dude, if you can add templates, you are more than welcome to.

I've editied the main page, I don't know if you noticed that, I want people to be aware of the work you are doing if they visit the site.

these are going to be the most substantial pages on our site.

edit:

also, I thought this kabuto page was getting a little large so i moved the section on the kamen riders into it's own page.

Woot! Done with the template. Had a little trouble copying from wikipedia since their universal template is too damn complicated. So I just improvised my own.

Just add {{KR navbox}} at the end of every KR page. This is going to be a lot of work.

that's a pretty awesome box!

so this will need to be updated when we get a new series?

I think that seems about right.

I'll add double to it now.

that'll save trouble in future.

Done with the Kabuto. I removed a lot of subsections as the information contained therein are irrelevant to the series itself.

Feel free to "mercilessly edit" the page. Now to move on to watching Blade.

Added pictures in the characters and pictures of the riders in both their forms. Check it out. I'm not sure what else to add to enhance the wiki.

I think better pictures are needed. I've asked bobby if he has any.

don't worry about that though, I'll deal with that part.

Ok then. The reason why I used those images is for symmetry, consistency and uniformity. We are talking about the pics in the rider pages right? I'll leave that to everyone else. I believe my work here is done.