ALASTOR1472670251 Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 VS Let's say that both have two years of experience with their Unity-G. The fight takes place in a Desert. Who would win if they fight each other in a fight to the death ? Quote
guyverfanatic Posted July 14, 2013 Posted July 14, 2013 Personally, I think Angel because of her more advanced unit. Quote
largo Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 I'd have to go with Angel as well. We have a pretty good idea of what Dark Nova is capable of but we still have yet to see Angel really go all out. Quote
*zeo Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 I'd just point out that neither Angel or Dark Nova are as powerful as they are simply because of how advance their units are... Power through Advance technology is how the Warrior Units scale... but Angel is as powerful as she is now because her unit altered her to be a more powerful host. So like a Zoa-Guyver is much more powerful than a normal human hosted unit would have been. While Dark Nova is similarly enhanced, using a singularity in her case to boost power levels... Though, she is more advance than she started as Black Nova... Since the Dark Nova upgrade includes Warrior tech but the technologies of both are also different because Angel's unit is a design trying to attempt to replace the Enforcer Kavzars, as a easier to create alternative. So there's some apples to oranges differences in this comparison... Btw, Angel winning doesn't necessarily mean she will live... Dark Nova's singularity will become a full black hole if containment is breached and destroy everything in her vicinity... Though, the duration of a black hole varies according to its size/mass... since black holes lose energy over time, Hawking Radiation... they eventually evaporate to the point they are no longer dense enough to be a singularity. Meaning they would explode like a nova... Energy release will vary upon size/mass of the black hole and smaller black holes will evaporate faster than larger ones, basically a snowball effect. So micro black holes can last nano-seconds, while a black hole with the mass of a Super Air Carrier can last around 10 years and one with the mass of a mountain that was created during the birth of the universe would be expiring just about now... So bigger scales to longer significantly... Though, in the Guyver universe, the Black Hole Weapon Sho used just evaporated... So Takaya may have a different idea on how it works but then again that weapon was firing a artificial black hole or simply didn't have enough mass for a big explosion... But worse case this means killing Dark Nova could be very bad news for anyone within a few thousand miles of her... And that's assuming the black hole isn't close enough to Earth to slurp it up and increase its mass... Mind, also the adjusted power scale of the story... Since we adjusted for the Gigantic being much more powerful than originally estimated... So the high power characters aren't as exceedingly more powerful than the Gigantic anymore. Quote
McAvoy Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 Keep in mind that Angel has the same technology as an Enforcer Kavzar so she can auto teleport like a Warrior Guyver. I do not know if it is as efficient and fast as a WG though. Dark Nova also has inferior regeneration rates as Angel. So damage could easily build up quicker than it would Angel. Quote
*zeo Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Even the WG auto escape teleport system has its limits, anything that can effect hyper space and higher dimensions in general would be a threat... The effects of a black hole up close and personal would definitely qualify... Small black holes for example have stronger sheering effect around it than big black holes as the transition point spreads out further for smaller black holes... though that's real black holes, artificial ones would be a lot less dangerous to teleporters. Remember the last time DN's CM almost lost control of the singularity for example, and she was the weaker Black Nova back then, it created a lot of dangerous effects in the general area and that was only a partial exposure... if she had completely lost containment it would have been a lot worse. While DN's regeneration may be slower than Angel's but they go back and forth on what defensive capabilities they have advantages over... Like DN can withstand more unshielded for example. One of the reasons why DN's regeneration is slower is because she's incredibly dense and has more total mass to regenerate... Mind though that the density makes her harder to hurt and the extra natural mass means it's easier for the momentum enhancers to boost physical attack power. While DN's Gravity Field Matrix may not be the equal of WG's but it's still very powerful and properly utilized could pose a serious problem for Angel... Mind, most of Angel's power is EM energy based and DN's Gravity Shield is strong enough to manipulate all EM around her to the point of being able to use it as a cloak, which would effectively shield her from all EM based attacks as well... though, similarly, DN's Lightning Storm Flash should have little effect on Angel... Quote
McAvoy Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 My point is that Angel can recover from a fatal attack like a Warrior Guyver can unlike Dark Nova. Quote
*zeo Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 My point is that Angel can recover from a fatal attack like a Warrior Guyver can unlike Dark Nova. Aside from worrying about losing containment on the singularity, Dark Nova is also pretty hard to kill... Mind that the Dark Nova upgrade came from a universe where the Nova project was completed and acquired some warrior tech. So her CM is enhanced now and isn't as easy to destroy as other Nova units anymore... besides, her base durability is higher because of her density and ability to absorb the energy of attacks... Quote
Sully Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Dark Nova upgrade came from a universe where the Nova project was completed and acquired some warrior tech... To be exact, "borrow" some Warrior Tech or in otherwords stole. Read between the lines and it is the reason in the Strange Worlds story the Warrior Project and Nova Projects wiped each other out (one side stealing from the other). Quote
ALASTOR1472670251 Posted December 31, 2014 Author Posted December 31, 2014 Personally, I think Angel because of her more advanced unit. I read here http://www.warriorguyver.com/oldsite3/datafiles/dfactf/darknovaguyver.htm Dark Nova can slowing time to 1/1000 normal so if Angel Guyvers Speed levels is: Run=0 to 7,500 MPH / Fly=0-39,000 MPH she will become run=7 mph and fly=39 mph and Dark Nova will become run=3,750,000 mph and fly 45,000,000 mph so Dark Nova should win...right ? Here are the data file about Angel Guyver http://www.warriorguyver.com/oldsite3/datafiles/dfedf/angel.htm Quote
*zeo Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Personally, I think Angel because of her more advanced unit. I read here http://www.warriorguyver.com/oldsite3/datafiles/dfactf/darknovaguyver.htm Dark Nova can slowing time to 1/1000 normal so if Angel Guyvers Speed levels is: Run=0 to 7,500 MPH / Fly=0-39,000 MPH she will become run=7 mph and fly=39 mph and Dark Nova will become run=3,750,000 mph and fly 45,000,000 mph so Dark Nova should win...right ? Here are the data file about Angel Guyver http://www.warriorguyver.com/oldsite3/datafiles/dfedf/angel.htm Well, the time dilation would definitely give an advantage but not necessarily a clear one... 1) Time dilation is a range limited effect, only up to about 300 meters... and as a side effect of using her full shields it means it can only be used in situations that she would be fully shielded and limit her combat options to what she can do while fully shielded... 2) Angel can temporarily double her normal speed and while on Earth she can use her EM powers to accelerate through the Earth's EM field up to near light speed, along with the ability to teleport, escape into Hyper Space when in danger, and use Worm Holes for FTL... So unless she stays still too long or focuses too much on hand to hand battle then she may not have to worry about the time dilation effect too much... Mind, Angel's EM powers does mean she has a fair bit of ranged attack abilities and as long as she stays outside of the 300 meters range of the effect then she can maintain her full speed... 3) Angel has plasma wings that can be used offensively, along with her own shields that can keep most attacks away from her physical body, and that means it's a bit harder to take advantage of her in hand to hand, even with a huge speed advantage... So, it's something Angel would have to watch out for but doesn't mean DN would win automatically... Quote
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