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Okay, because I'm sad and lonely and always wanted a Guyver unit that I got to wondering...most passenger planes cruise at about 500 mph *ish*. . . and a standard Guyver has a top flight speed of 300 mph. . . ANYWAY back to my point. . . although relatively small, compared to any manned flight capable aircraft, would a Guyver show up on a normal flight radar system? . . .

The only reason I ask this is because I was thinking about flying in the sky and thought about all the planes up there as well and it got me thinking...if they would show up on radar...you'd have to be at least Warrior Guyver standards to be able to use some form of cloak to keep off radar....either that or keep below radar height which I suppose wouldn't be very hard?

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RADAR is also effected by size and whether the object has any sharp angles for the RADAR to reflect off of to make it more easily detected.

A Guyver is only human size and has lots of round angles and thus would have a very small RADAR signature, provided of course the RADAR system is sensitive enough to detect anything around human size to begin with. Basically even if detected they could mistake a Guyver for a bird or perhaps a drone aircraft.

Though there is a chance that the bio-armor may absorb RADAR signals and thus be completely invisible, unless standing in front of something detectable and would thus show up as a blank spot.

The main thing to probably worry about then would be the possibility of accidentally colliding with an aircraft, especially jets, since a Guyver doesn't have access to the flight ID system that helps keep track of all air traffic and so would have to rely on Hyper Sensors to avoid impacts. . . It's just avoiding things like a super sonic jet that may be the problem.

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Radar would readily detect a Guyver much more easily than you would think because of the curves. But it all depends if the Guyver's armor can absorb the Radar or not. Stealth planes rely on a few factors to be stealthy. They are coated with RAM (Radar Absorbant Material) which can vary from looking and feeling like regular paint to rubbery, easily damaged paint. Angled panels and surfaces also reflect the radar away from their source, which is why a F-117 looks like it does.

Most radar will pick up everything even a bug. A Guyver would be no different, modern radar could even identify what it is picking up.

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I disagree, it sounds like you're comparing top of the line Military RADAR to everyday RADAR. . . Remember if that was true of all RADAR then planes would get warnings when they are about to fly into a flock of birds (which are a lot bigger than bugs) and they wouldn't need transponders if we could identify them by just their RADAR signature. Unlike military RADAR, civilian RADAR doesn't always have multiple RADAR sources and detection grid. Never mind most civilians don't have access to thermal, wake signatures, etc.

Stealth itself is more complicated, take the real reason the F-117 had so many angles was to reflect as little of the signal back to the same source. The flat angles themselves did nothing to provide stealth, it was the arrangement and placement of those angles so the total signature of the F-117 would not reflect all back to a single source. Similarly curved angles also reflect most of the RADAR signal away from the source direction, but being curved means at close range the signal could get stronger as the angles congruent to the source become more likely to reach the source. Otherwise curved surfaces do make an object harder to detect.

Especially versus a flat surface facing the direction of the RADAR signal, which would reflect all of the signal right back to the detector, that a curved surface would indeed provide a weaker signal.

Also ultimately the F-117 was shown to be too impractical, as the multiple angles impaired the craft's aerodynamics so much that it needed constant computer assist to keep it stable in flight. More advance RADAR systems could also defeat its methods of stealth.

Which brings us to the F-22 and Joint Strike Fighters, they have both angled and curved surfaces, preserving aerodynamics so they are much more stable, maneuverable, and can even go super sonic. Despite this they are both still stealth rated crafts. Though you are right that material properties are also a factor as to whether the Guyver will absorb or just reflect RADAR signals.

The main confusion though is probably the idea that stealth equals invisibility, when it does not. Stealth aircrafts simply reduce their signature so it is harder to detect them. In optimum conditions, detecting a stealth is like detecting a bird. It may be on the RADAR but is so small that it can easily be overlooked.

Like look at a dollar bill on a carpet, it is easily seen, but put a dime on that same carpet and you will be hard pressed to find it at all. The dime isn't invisible, just too small to be easily seen.

The same would be true of the Guyver, unless they are looking for something the size of a man then they will easily over look something the size of the Guyver. Just like many drone aircraft often slip by enemy RADAR.

Of course if they are looking for you that is another matter, the military for example have the option of recording the signature of an object and so the next time it is detected they will automatically be alerted.

This is what happened in the movie IRONMAN, the first time he slipped through but once they were aware of him they quickly detected him the next time around.

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