*zeo Posted November 4, 2005 Posted November 4, 2005 Okay everyone, the new Guyver anime series has made several changes to the Guyver and even the zoaforms to an extent. So lets see how observant everyone is and list what surprising changes you have noticed being demonstrated so far in the new anime series? Quote
daveblackeye152 Posted November 4, 2005 Posted November 4, 2005 Maybe more of an error than an interesting scientific situation. *spoiler for episode six* I couldn't help but notice in episode 6 that Enzyme's blood didn't disolve into the ground, shouldn't it have made a least a small hole? I dismissed Zerebubuse's acid not disloving the ground when he killed those two police officers because I figured the acid was all used up for melting their bodies. I'm not really a science wizard unlike you Zeo. Quote
Zeus Thunderbolt Posted November 4, 2005 Posted November 4, 2005 I couldn't help but notice in episode 6 that Enzyme's blood didn't disolve into the ground, shouldn't it have made a least a small hole? The blood of enzyme was designed to destroy Guyver armour, so its probable that the blood has a catalyst that only reacts with elements in the Guyver armour. That may be why it didnt eat through the ground. There could be a similar reason for Zerebubus's acid not eating through to the ground. The scientists that created those acids to be used in those two zoanoids would have needed a way to test and control the acids so they might have been designed to only react with living organic matter ie guyvers and humans(and be inert to things such as glass containers and other such things that allow the acid to be transported). Quote
largo Posted November 4, 2005 Posted November 4, 2005 Well I haven't seen any of the new show so what are the changes to the Guyver armor? Quote
guyverfanatic Posted November 4, 2005 Posted November 4, 2005 Well I haven't seen any of the new show so what are the changes to the Guyver armor? No but the armor does protect Sho's friends by accessing his memories. In one of the early episodes, a Chronos agent misses Guyver 1 and the bullet would of hit Tetsuro, had the armor not reacted by shooting the bullet out of the air with the head beam. (how badass is that?!) The armor seems to regenerate pretty quickly. In one scene when Zerabubuse had melted off one of Guyver 1's vibration blades, it had quickly grown back in another scene. Quote
*zeo Posted November 5, 2005 Author Posted November 5, 2005 Yes that is one of the major changes they made. The Guyver Self Defense mode now appears to have a friend or foe recognition that is advance enough to recognize a friend is in danger and act to defend them without the host even being fully aware of what happened. The acid is also a good observation but I wasn't so much looking for the flaws in the new anime, those would need their own topic section , but rather what changes they made to how everything works like the Guyver Self Defense mode acting to defend Tetsuro being one example. There are more examples, anybody? P.S.> Largo, go watch those episodes, you're missing out on a lot Like say certain zoanoids only ever even mentioned in the novels before now. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted November 5, 2005 Posted November 5, 2005 The Guyver's ability to negate other sonic attacks? Quote
Guest Posted November 5, 2005 Posted November 5, 2005 About the negate attack. I think the Guyver sorta always had a duel function with the sonic orbs. I've believe that the orbs could be used as an attack. An example of this would be in book 2 when Guyver I destroyed Aptom's left arm. The second function could be less of a weapon and more of a defense or destration measure. My example would be in book 3 when Guyver I used it to keep Team Five at bay while he flew out with his dad. Another would be the negate attack in episode five of the new anime. Not very scientific but a bit closer to what Zeo was looking for. And due to your explanation of the Enzyme concoction my mentioning of it wasn't a mistake was it? Quote
*zeo Posted November 5, 2005 Author Posted November 5, 2005 It should be noted that the negate attack apparently effected the Guyver's Hyper Sensors since G1 was unable to detect the zoanoids sonic attacks while under its influence. This suggest the new anime version of the Hyper Sensors are more like sonar than the 3D Radar system depicted in the Manga. Though another episode did show the two orbs can be used for 360 degreee vision which allowed G1 to look in all directions at once. As for the Guyver's own sonic Busters, the primary change was the fact he was able to use them to atomize zoanoids. This makes this version far more powerful than any previous. The ability to negate other sonic attacks is just icing on the cake. But we're far from done with the changes they made in the new anime. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted November 6, 2005 Posted November 6, 2005 I forgot that the megasmashers do not have a sustained beam like in the manga, but rather one massive, one second blast. Also it takes time for the megasmshers to be charge before they can be used again. Quote
Mutronics Posted November 7, 2005 Posted November 7, 2005 Yes that is one of the major changes they made. The Guyver Self Defense mode now appears to have a friend or foe recognition that is advance enough to recognize a friend is in danger and act to defend them without the host even being fully aware of what happened. Interesting point, the system must get confused in the Enzyme II fight, which only highens the trauma of Sho commiting petricide... Quote
*zeo Posted November 7, 2005 Author Posted November 7, 2005 That's actually Patricide, not sure Petricide is a real word but if it is it would mean murder of bacteria , but not quite Mutronborg as confused as you would think. For example you'd note from the scenes that the CM is seen acting on its own that it accesses the host brain before it acts. Essentially using the host brain to enhance its own decision making and this is what I think allows for the Friend or Foe recognition effect. But when G1 killed Enzyme II his brain had already been ripped out so the CM had nothing but it-self to make decisions during that battle. So it could not know it was not suppose to kill Fumio. So Sho wakes up with a nasty surprise. As for the Mega Smashers, they always released a quick one second blast. It was only the older anime that made it seem longer so you could see the zoanoids getting vaporized in all its glorious detail. And they always took time to charge up. The Manga doesn't show you how long it took but it is kinda the point of an energy weapon to release its power all at once for maximum damage. The new anime just shows it in real time. So the real difference in the new anime is that the Smashers don't put a strain on the host. Unlike before since we don't see either Guyver tired or even winded after using the Smashers. Also, possibly as a side effect, the Smashers take much longer before they can be used again where as before the Guyver could use them till exhausted. Quote
Warbyrd13 Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 Looks like in the New series they are showing the enhanced aglity and speed when Guyver 1 and Guyver 2 were having thier little fight. Quote
*zeo Posted December 19, 2005 Author Posted December 19, 2005 It should be noted that Agito is near perfect physical conditioning in the new anime. Along with the scenes showing him doing gymnastics he has also been shown doing one hand stand push ups, supporting his full weight with one arm and doing push ups in that position. These are excersize regiments you would expect for someone like Batman to be doing. So it would be most interesting to compare how G3 performs in battle along side G1 and see if all that excersizing gives him an edge or not. Other things to keep note of is the show is finally showing the other Zoalords and we can finally see some of their attacks animated for better analysis on what they are capable of. Suprisingly though the last few episodes are virtually identical to the Manga so we may expect them to follow the known story line from here on out. So it should be very interesting once we get to the Gigantic Guyver. Thoughts anyone? Quote
Raven Posted December 21, 2005 Posted December 21, 2005 It should be noted that the negate attack apparently effected the Guyver's Hyper Sensors since G1 was unable to detect the zoanoids sonic attacks while under its influence. This suggest the new anime version of the Hyper Sensors are more like sonar than the 3D Radar system depicted in the Manga. Though another episode did show the two orbs can be used for 360 degreee vision which allowed G1 to look in all directions at once. I don't think they changed the hyper-sensors. I (unfortunately) don't have the manga but I recall someone saying that Guyver I's unit deactivated after a sonic attack by some bat-like Zoanoids. This weakness caused the CM to malfunction, which made it for the sensors impossible to detect the Zoanoids. Remember that Sho was inside a sound negating bubble, the sonic attack wasn't directed at the CM but it still might have been effected by it. That's my theory anyway Quote
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