What does it take to become a zoanoid?

[Guest]

I have thought about posting this topic for a while now. After all the talk about measuring a guyvers physical strength and the effects the hosts muscles have on the unit, my next question is, what does it take to be a zoanoid?

The anime, as always, is a big influence on this topic, here I go!

Before becoming guyver 2 the anime data files state that lisker had trained to become a "hyper zoanoid". Does this mean that a human that has gone through some physical training has a higher probability of successfully going through the zoanoid process than those that have not trained? Or is the success of going through the zoanoid process entirely down to having the right genetics?

Again going back to the anime, the datafiles stated that the Ramotith's model was so popular because the process would work on any human being. This leads me to believe that a lot of it is down to having good genes, (that is, if you wanted to become something other than a ramotith's zoanoid), i think Gyou stated that defects must be removed from the heridatary pool.

Now the reason i think physical conditioning plays a part in zoanoid processing is because of what happened to Sho's father when he was turned into Enzyme 2! Being processed completely exhausted Fumio and he slept for the entire day!

I know nearly all the citizens of Takeshiro city were turned into zoanoids but they were just the regular type. This probably means that you can get away with not being conditioned if your going to become a regular zoanoid. The real question is in the selection of hyper zoanoids though, how did human Zx-toll, Gaster, Derzerb etc. get selected. Do you need to be in tip top condition or be extremely lucky in the genetic department to become a hyper zoanoid?

Your thoughts?

[Sully]

You have to also bear in mind that a hyper-zoanoid is not just a more powerful zoaniod but a leader. So training is also battle tatics etc etc. There is nothing to say that Lisker's training involved his body been altered as he was still very human when he fought Sho. But you'd seem right in saying that it is not only good genes that make a zoanoid but the smartest of those who make hyper-zoanoids. It would eb a combination of both and at an more extreame level the same would be said for a Zoalord.

[Guest]

I'd say that it must take a lot of strain to convert someone into a zoanoid.

Think about how you feel when you get sick, when some virus starts invading your body and uses your tissues to replicate itself. It can take a lot out of you. Now, it's only an idea that viruses are used in the process, but the idea that genetically re-engineering someone holds the same point.

A person with a good beating heart will probebly take a lot more stress during the process than someone without. My guess is that different zoanoid types can put more/or different stresses on the body in the processing. That is how I think physical condition plays a part. But yes, skills also when choosing leaders.

And I agree that genetics plays a part in zoaforms. Anyone with a defect might not survive becoming certain zoanoid models. Some people are lactose intolerant. Imagine what hormones and enzymes must be pumped through the blood in some zoanoid bodies. If the zoa part of them interferes with the human? Certain people must be classified for certain types of zoanoid.

And about Fumio Fukimachi, he was processed in very short time. Think of him as a rush job. They've mentioned at least a week or two for processing time with the origional Enzyme; but I'm tired, and it's been a long time since I've heard that. I'm going to bed now, I must work in a few hours.

[*Jess♥]

I do remember reading somewhere that only the elite of the genetic pool get chosen for hyper zoanoids. that you have to be physically and mentally 'perfect'. I can't remember where I read that. so i guess the training is to get you physically and mentally perfect even if you have strong genes. There is a lot of mention of 'success rate' of zoanoids throughout the data files so i guess there can be a lot of failures when processing? that would probably be down to genetics once again. as for the process someone mentioned 'mass variations on the genetic level' how would you change the genes? i don't know about genetics but cancer cells are genetically different arent they? cancer cells have something to do with radiation so maybe they use radio waves or xrays or something?

[*zeo]

Cancer are cells that basically won't die when they are supposed to so become malignant growths. This can be cause by a number of factors ranging from a virus to toxic chemicals to radiation, all basically causing some form of genetic damage to the cell's DNA and thus causing them to become cancerous. Which consequently can effect the body's immune system and cause secondary factors that ultimately lead to death.

Basically the longer you live the higher your chances of getting cancer since you accumalate genetic damage as you age.

There is no such thing as a perfect human but there is ideal conditions upon which a person will have to meet before they get processed into a zoaform.

After all not only are they having their DNA radically altered but their physical form as well. Simply moving around internal organs and altering how the body works can put a massive strain on a person, risking shock, internal bleeding, and general organ failure during the processing. So the person will have to be able to survive the processing. The more radical the changes the greater the strain and the longer it will take to process a person.

I.E.> Something closer to the host metabolism would induce a lesser strain and will have a higher success rate than a zoaform that is very different from a human's norm. Which is why Ramotith is a much more successful design than Gregole, which is a reptilian based zoaform.

As for Risker, there are three basic reasons why he was training to become a hyper zoanoid. One was to put himself at the level of health needed for him to successfully survive being processed, just like a person needs to be healthy enough to survive surgery before they risk cutting into you

Two, he had to prepare his combat skills and mindset for his new intended form.

After all Hyper Zoanoids are usually very specialized in their abilities so he would have to train to be proficient in the use of the abilities they intended to give him.

Finally, the third reason is rank, hypers are the next up in the command chain so Risker also had to prove himself worthy of the position. It is always wise to give the most power to those who can best use it.