Max Factory model cards

[Guest]

Anyone have scans of the gaster, elegen, gregole, or cards 37, 38, and 39? I ask because those are the only cards I havent seen, and well, I've got stats for all of them except the last 3, which I personally believe are Enzyme cards.

Also, even if you dont have those 4 sets, feel free to post what you've got, just to brag.

I personally own the 3 sets of Guyvers. I personally would love to own all of them, but they're rare and most people arent willing to sell them.

[Guest]

So, does that mean that you have the Zerbebuth cards? They are the only ones that I have not got scans of, except for those that you are also missing.

Here are most of the other cards for people that haven't seen them

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/davenport1 ... in/max.htm

[Guest]

Looking at the cards, what exactly do the points mean? They seem to vary on the 3 cards that are for the same character? The 3 different types of points are HP, AP and DP. I would assume that AP stood for attack points and DP defence points, but I'm not sure about HP, health points perhaps? Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree!

Can anyone enlightnen me?

[Guest]

I can only assume HP means Hit Points, AP means Attack Points, and DP means Defense Points.

As for how it would all work, I dont know. Ever since I found out about the cards, I've been highly interested in a) translating all the text on the cards, and b) figuring out if it's even possible to use them in any sort of japanese RPG, or if they're simply statistical values that hold absolutely no gaming purpose.

As for Zerbebuth, I only have 3 crappy scans and I got them from BioWeapons.com. I'm thinking about emailing the guy asking if it'd be possible to get higher quality scans of those since those are the only 3 I dont have high quality scans of. Although, I may ask for Derzerb too as I have decent sized scans, but they arent as high quality as everything else.

As for the stat differences in the cards, I personally think the primary card is basic stats for the character, and the 2 following cards are 'special attacks'(i.e. Guyver 1 has the mega smasher and high-freq swords). It would also make sense as Guyver 3's third card is Guyver 1 and 3, as if they were making a combined attack(ala anime episode #6 when they take down Neo Zx-Tole), and it has the highest AP of all cards.

And as for the last cards, 37, 38, and 39, I'm almost positive those 3 are Enzyme since it looks like the cards encompass all the characters in the first 6 anime episodes(and interestingly enough, the data files on the first 6 episodes show images that look very much like max factory models), and having stats for just about everybody, Enzyme is the only characters that I dont have stats for, that was in the first 6 episodes.

As for the other cards? I have the stats for them, received from various sources, but I have never actually seen the cards.

So lets keep this bumped and maybe, just maybe, we'll find someone that might have scans of any of those cards.

Also, if anyone is interested, I can post all the stat values I have typed up in a word document.

[Guest]

Also, if Max Factory were to make more cards, what do you think the stats of some of the newer characters would be? Zoanoids? Hyper Zoanoids? Zoalords? Gigantics? What do you think the stats might be?

[xtro guyver]

Samurai_Guyver please keep in mind no double posting, please check the rules section for the board, next time you want to add to a topic you were last to post on edit your previuos post. Any futher rule breaking will result in a strike

[Guest]

I can only assume HP means Hit Points, AP means Attack Points, and DP means Defense Points.

As for how it would all work, I dont know. Ever since I found out about the cards, I've been highly interested in a) translating all the text on the cards, and b) figuring out if it's even possible to use them in any sort of japanese RPG, or if they're simply statistical values that hold absolutely no gaming purpose.

As for the stat differences in the cards, I personally think the primary card is basic stats for the character, and the 2 following cards are 'special attacks'(i.e. Guyver 1 has the mega smasher and high-freq swords). It would also make sense as Guyver 3's third card is Guyver 1 and 3, as if they were making a combined attack(ala anime episode #6 when they take down Neo Zx-Tole), and it has the highest AP of all cards.

So lets keep this bumped and maybe, just maybe, we'll find someone that might have scans of any of those cards.

Also, if anyone is interested, I can post all the stat values I have typed up in a word document.

I would certainly be interested in a post with all the stat values in a word document. Is anyone working on translations of the text on the cards? I know from previous posts that some of you are working on translating the visual data files artbook and the manga books (vol 8 and 9 translated already).

Samurai_Guyver also made a good point about the cards being used for gaming purposes. This relates to an idea that i've had for a while. Does anyone remember the card game Top Trumps? You had Fantasy top trumps, motor vehicle top trumps as well as my favourite, Marvel Super Heroes and Marvel Super Villain top trumps.

Could the cards that some of you have be used for such a game? or something similar?

[Guest]

Sorry about the double post, wont happen again.

As for the cards, it would be awesome if we could get someone to try to translate them. Shouldnt be too hard as each card only has a small box of text, and the primary card for each char, half the text is just their height and weight.

I see what you mean about the Top Trumps game, and I think it could be something like that.. or perhaps something like OutWars(online game) where basically when someone is attacking someone else, you compare the attacker's AP to the defenders DP, and if the AP is higher, the attack succeeds, and if the DP is higher, the attack is defended. Then there's be something like if the attack was successful, the difference is deducted from the defenders HP or something like that? Either of the possible gameplays seems plausable, although there are subtle flaws like Zx-Tole's ability to resist/absorb a Guyver's mega smasher; although, I would personally enjoy expanding on these to encompass newer versions of characters, as well as new characters, and possibly expand to include special features like using just the main char card stats, then making it so certain attacks and abilities add to the AP, DP and/or HP.

For the list, it'd just easiest to copy and paste, so here is the list of all the card stats I have found. And just for reference, the notes next to the card numbers are a basic summerization of the image on the card.

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Card: 1 (Guyver 1)

HP: 30

AP: 100

DP: 145

TP: 275

Card: 2 (Guyver 1 Mega-Smasher)

HP: 30

AP: 500

DP: 150

TP: 680

Card: 3 (Guyver 1 High Frequency Swords)

HP: 30

AP: 300

DP: 235

TP: 565

Card: 4 (Gregole)

HP: 80

AP: 110

DP: 50

TP: 240

Card: 5 (Gregole Side of Head)

HP: 80

AP: 120

DP: 60

TP: 260

Card: 6 (Gregole Face at Angle)

HP: 80

AP: 150

DP: 40

TP: 270

Card: 7 (Vamore)

HP: 50

AP: 50

DP: 50

TP: 150

Card: 8 (Vamore Lasers Open)

HP: 50

AP: 65

DP: 50

TP: 165

Card: 9 (Vamore Lasers Firing)

HP: 50

AP: 185

DP: 45

TP: 280

Card: 10 (Ramotith)

HP: 50

AP: 100

DP: 10

TP: 160

Card: 11 (Ramotith Upper Half)

HP: 50

AP: 110

DP: 10

TP: 170

Card: 12 (Ramotith Running)

HP: 50

AP: 120

DP: 10

TP: 180

Card: 13 (Guyver 2)

HP: 80

AP: 120

DP: 100

TP: 300

Card: 14 (Guyver 2 Head)

HP: 80

AP: 355

DP: 145

TP: 580

Card: 15 (Guyver 2 Head)

HP: N/A

AP: N/A

DP: N/A

TP: N/A

Card: 16 (Zerbebuth)

HP: 85

AP: 85

DP: 90

TP: 270

Card: 17 (Zerbebuth Head/Acid Sprayers)

HP: 85

AP: 100

DP: 105

TP: 290

Card: 18 (Zerbebuth Lasers)

HP: 85

AP: 250

DP: 40

TP: 375

Card: 19 (Mizuki Segawa)

HP: N/A

AP: N/A

DP: N/A

TP: N/A

Card: 20 (Combat Crew)

HP: 40

AP: 20

DP: 10

TP: 70

Card: 21 (Combat Crew Head)

HP: N/A

AP: N/A

DP: N/A

TP: N/A

Card: 22 (Zx-Tole)

HP: 95

AP: 105

DP: 160

TP: 360

Card: 23 (Zx-Tole Head)

HP: 95

AP: 325

DP: 160

TP: 580

Card: 24 (Zx-Tole Head Laser Firing)

HP: 95

AP: 435

DP: 140

TP: 670

Card: 25 (Elegen)

HP: 80

AP: 140

DP: 110

TP: 330

Card: 26 (Elegen Head)

HP: 80

AP: 270

DP: 130

TP: 480

Card: 27 (Elegen Electrified)

HP: 80

AP: 290

DP: 150

TP: 520

Card: 28 (Derzerb)

HP: 90

AP: 170

DP: 200

TP: 460

Card: 29 (Derzerb Ramming)

HP: 90

AP: 290

DP: 200

TP: 580

Card: 30 (Derzerb Flame Discharger)

HP: 90

AP: 280

DP: 200

TP: 570

Card: 31 (Gaster)

HP: 85

AP: 105

DP: 100

TP: 290

Card: 32 (Gaster Head)

HP: 85

AP: 175

DP: 80

TP: 340

Card: 33 (Gaster Firing Missiles)

HP: 85

AP: 400

DP: 115

TP: 600

Card: 34 (Thancrus)

HP: 90

AP: 140

DP: 90

TP: 320

Card: 35 (Thancrus Head)

HP: 90

AP: 340

DP: 90

TP: 520

Card: 36 (Thancrus High Frequency Swords)

HP: 90

AP: 400

DP: 90

TP: 580

Card: 40 (Guyver 3)

HP: 60

AP: 180

DP: 120

TP: 360

Card: 41 (Guyver 3 Mega-Smasher)

HP: 60

AP: 510

DP: 130

TP: 700

Card: 42 (Guyver 3 and Guyver 1)

HP: 30 + 60

AP: 820

DP: 290

TP: 1200

(P.S. Sorry if the length of this post is an annoyance to the mods or anybody else. I will take it down and find somewhere to upload a txt file if it must be.)

Edited September 20, 2004 by Guest

[Sully]

I like this topic so keep it up and leave the nice info post alone as its interesting. If you find the info you are after let me know. Once done we can put it into Star's Guyver page if you want?

[Guest]

Sounds good.

Who knows, maybe we can expand on it as well. Like have 1 section/list for official cards, then 1 for unofficial cards of canon zoanoids/lords/others, and a third section/list for card stats of non-canon characters like the world(of guyver) famous Warrior Guyver

Well, either way, I think I'd probably end up making up card stats for canon chars after episode/chapter 6.

[Guest]

Just scored a few of my own max factory model cards off of ebay, they are seriously cool. However I do have 3 that are the same, I'll post the details in the marketplace section!

[Guest]

I bought a Guyver I kit off E-bay and assumptionally, it's supposed to come with the cards, but unknowingly all it came with was box, instructions, and kit. I got j3w3d hard on my cards, so if anyone has the three Guyver uno cards, then I'd be awfully interested in getting them off you, perhaps? Anyway, about the RPG thing.... I doubt the card statistics have any meaning for a roleplaying game, just for general information with numeric illustrations

[Guest]

was the vynil kit painted at all? If not, then it might be a recast from someone. That might explain why no cards. It might not be made directly by Maxfactory

(and useing leet to make an obsenity/derogitory is still not appropriate. this is a warning, assuming Sully decides not to take action)

[Guest]

Yeah, the vinyl was painted, and it was original Max Factory. Came with the box, max instructions, and the pieces were idenitical to the box's figure. Overall, I basically got effed over by some dickhead.

[Guest]

Quite sorry, my figure of speech was pretty callowous. Please forgive my non-intentional prejudice. Thanks!

[Guest]

Yeah, the vinyl was painted, and it was original Max Factory. Came with the box, max instructions, and the pieces were idenitical to the box's figure. Overall, I basically got effed over by some dickhead.

Not true. You see, only the first run of Guyver models by Max Factory actually had the cards, all model productions after the first run didnt have the cards. That's partially why they're so rare, and why you didnt get any. That also explains why the cards only came with character models from the first 6 chapters.

My suggestion for you is check the auction text for a mention of cards, or email the seller. Never assume cards will come with it, because more often than not, you will be disappointed.

And on a slightly different topic, do we have anyone that could try to translate the cardS? I have extremely big and good quality scans of the cards for all 3 Guyvers, plus readable scans of Vamore, Ramotith, Thancrus, Zx-Tole, and the Mizuki/Combat Crew cards. So, is there anyone that could possibly translate or try to translate the cards? If we could find out what they say, we might get more insight into whether they were part of some kind of game, or if they're just cards that show numerical strength values?