TheGuyversWill Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 Just did a rather large update to the GSF site. Added 12 or more RP's to the Archive Section. Updated the picture on the Spider-Guyver profile under the data files section. A lot more to come, this is just what I got done in the past 2 days.
TheGuyversWill Posted January 25, 2004 Author Posted January 25, 2004 Added more to the Archive section, Added some fights. OH! and some more Data files too! Introducing Eversor Guyver and Guyver Protector!
jedi-guyver Posted January 25, 2004 Posted January 25, 2004 I notice there is a little mistake on the Eversor guyvers data file it say that the strenght is 450 but he can only lift 67.5 tons. Shouldn't it be ten times that?
*zeo Posted January 26, 2004 Posted January 26, 2004 If it says 450 men then the most it can be is 180 Tons jedi-guyver.
TheGuyversWill Posted January 26, 2004 Author Posted January 26, 2004 Okay to Jedi Guyver, in order for it to be ten times that the amount of strength per person would be about 3000 pounds. I don?t know many people who can lift 1.5 tons, but if you do, more power to you To Zeo, with your estimate the average would be 800 pounds per person. I have some weight lifters for friends, now some of them can lift upwards of 450 pounds, but they are beyond huge. I'm not exactly sure what the record for such feats are, but I averaged it at 300 pounds, since that?s how much I can bench
*zeo Posted January 26, 2004 Posted January 26, 2004 800 Pounds is the standard for measuring multiples of human strength as it is the rated maximum theoretical potential for the average human to obtain. I.E.> Everything from "The Six Million Dollar Man" 5 men strength ability to lift up to 2 tons, all the way to Marvel Comics back when they gave more specific strength estimates for their characters. But like I said, the most 450 men can be rated for is to lift 180 Tons. Not everyone assumes the 100x is for human energy generating potential or even of their physical potential but rather a multiplication of the host natural unenhanced strength. If going by the later then your 67.5 Ton rating would be correct for someone such as yourself. If going be the former then it would be 180 Tons. But in either case jedi-guyver would be off with his ten times comment. As for real word examples http://www.mcshane-enterprises.com/ASL/anderson.html This guy came pretty close to the ideal limit of human potential. And that is not even going into maniac strength or people with above normal bone strength and muscle power through some genetic mutation. I.E.>They got people who can hold 8 liters of air in their lungs instead of the normal limit of 5-7 and can hold their breath for over 5 minutes, etc.
TheGuyversWill Posted January 26, 2004 Author Posted January 26, 2004 Yeah I was going with the host un-enhanced strength. I always liked that idea, though it does make more sense that it would be the host energy generating potential, since the guyver replaces the majority of the tissues within said host. Where did marvel show this? I've always seem them refer to it in forms of 1.-7's. on the 1992 series they measured purely in tons rather than the amount of a character times the human norm. 627.. holy mother of. I knew a dude once who could bench 550, but he had 27 inch arms. Huge massive dude that you wouldnt want to meet in a dark ally. I mean most people are able to bench about 1.5 their own wieght, or 2 times if they are really good. Could be wrong on that one, could just be 1.5. Still, most people dont spend 60 hours in a gym every week, or have 27 inch arms. As far as the maniac strength, my Aunt and Grandmother once lifted a 5 tons tractor off of a dying Grandfather in order to free him from an entanglement. Oh one more thing, I always thought you guys used 300 as a base, considering that Warrior Guyver was shown early on to be lifting a 60 ton rock off of his head with considerable effort
jedi-guyver Posted January 26, 2004 Posted January 26, 2004 Sorry about that guys what I ment was is that I saw that the human host could lift 3 tons by himself I just thought that it ment he could lift more than 67.5 tons thats all I ment.
*zeo Posted January 26, 2004 Posted January 26, 2004 Marvel used specific figures in their character list books and trading cards but stopped being specific the last couple of years. I.E.> Strength scale of 2 = peak human, can lift own weight on up to 800 LBS. Someone with enhanced strength was rated 3 for 800lbs to 2 ton range, then someone like Spiderman got level 4 for 2-10 ton range, level 5 for someone like Venom for 10-50 ton range, level 6 for someone like the Think for 50-100 ton range, and level 7 was for 100 ton to infinite for someone like the Hulk. I've always used the 800 lbs limit for the WG fic. Reason for 60 tons strain is realism. Even if you can lift 160 tons, doesn't mean you can do it instantaneously and especially not if in bad leverage position. I.E.> You may be able to bench 300 lbs but you will not be able to just grab 120 lbs and shove it out of the way without some effort, especially if you are not in the best position to push against it with your full strength.
TheGuyversWill Posted February 7, 2004 Author Posted February 7, 2004 Actually 120 pounds if like nothing, my girlfriend for example can be lifted with a single arm in any position without a problem
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