GuyverXenon Posted August 25, 2003 Posted August 25, 2003 Ok I was just watching the OVA and noticed that when Valcuria knocks Sho into Third Block before Sho notices Mitzuki the sensory orbs swivel about. Also in the anime and the manga I've noticed alot of the time the sensory orbs move before the Guyver notices something or most of the time they are kinda facing forward. So I was wondering. Are the sensory orbs the Guyvers true eyes? Are the eye plates themselves just a viewing screen of sorts so the host can view what the sensory orbs are picking up? I think thats the case cause even when Sho fought Enzyme II half the Guyvers head was still intact and so he still did have one sensory orb. I hope someone can clear this up for me.
Guest Posted August 25, 2003 Posted August 25, 2003 I think they are kind of a sixth sense for him like a spider sense. They can be defined as a second pair of eye's for the guyver. They probably let him sense everyone around him and dont identify someone unless the host wishes to.
Guest Posted August 25, 2003 Posted August 25, 2003 I think they pick up sounds/things that may cause a potential threat, and what the host has not noticed yet, or wouldnt not be capable of noticing.
OverLord Supreme Guyver(O Posted August 25, 2003 Posted August 25, 2003 Ok I was just watching the OVA and noticed that when Valcuria knocks Sho into Third Block before Sho notices Mitzuki the sensory orbs swivel about. Also in the anime and the manga I've noticed alot of the time the sensory orbs move before the Guyver notices something or most of the time they are kinda facing forward. So I was wondering. Are the sensory orbs the Guyvers true eyes? Are the eye plates themselves just a viewing screen of sorts so the host can view what the sensory orbs are picking up? I think thats the case cause even when Sho fought Enzyme II half the Guyvers head was still intact and so he still did have one sensory orb. I hope someone can clear this up for me. Interesting theory, still when the Host is conscious the Guyver eye plates are the primary visual sense. While sensor orbs help the host detect what the host cannot see. If what u say is true, the host sensor orbs would never have to swivel because he/she would always have an exact positions of everything around him/her at all times within the limitations of the Sensor orbs. Now when the host is unconscious and the unit is in self-defense mode, the Control medal uses the sensor Orbs to give the Control medal its Visual perception. Prime ex. When Sho was fighting his father his eye plates were melted leaving him nearly blind, than his brain was destroyed. So the possibility of the unit using the host own eyes was impossible. Still the unit knew exactly where EnzymeII was during the rest of the fight. One more ex. Is when GuyverI and GuyverIII had there little test of strength at chronos Japan. When Sho woke up his vision was like, he had just opened his eyes after being asleep. Hope this answers your Question
Azaar Posted August 25, 2003 Posted August 25, 2003 Given what very little I've seen (which, alas, is just the live-action movies, since I've not found any place locally where I can nab the anime DVDs as of yet), I've always likened the sensor orbs to hyper-sensitive motion detectors. I figure they serve not only as the proverbial eyes in the back of your head, but also heightened hearing and such... after all, the Unit G is supposed to boost the host's natural abilities, the five senses included.
Guest Posted August 25, 2003 Posted August 25, 2003 According to YoungGuyver?s outstanding site, which apparently is based on a technical handbook on the Guyver, which is steadily translated, the eyes and the sensor orbs are separate senses, that is to say: the information of the orbs and those of the eyes are processed separately. I imagine the sensory imput from the orbs is experienced differently from any other sense - not seen, heard, felt or smelled, but... well, what? maybe like a touch across a distance... umm... or like the way you feel heat radiation.... In any case, the eyes pieces apparently pick up visual information with all of their surface instead of just through a pupil, thus greatly increasing the optical resolution of the wearer.
Guest Posted August 25, 2003 Posted August 25, 2003 Yep, Lenard got it right. That's what Masako translated it to say. Takaya basically gave the armor a superior set of eyes. As for the sensor orbs... aren't we forgeting a sense? What about sound? If every principle of the human is boosted, what could the basis for the sensor orbs be? Just an idea, but they are in the general region of the human ear. How would the armor make them superior? ummm, don't creatures such as Dolphins use sound waves (sonar) to check out their environment? That's just my guess on this. They constantly absorb sound waves (listen) and can send out sonar waves for scanning the environment. Remember, I havn't found a translation on the sensor orbs yet.
Azaar Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 I agree with the sonic absorption for the sensor orbs, but I'm not sure about actually emitting sonics... I mean, wouldn't that conflict with the sonic emitters on the mouth, or could it be that it's some sort of redundant backup?
Guest Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 Actually I alwas thought it was like a type of sonar. My theory on how they work is like this, they send out sound waves which bounce back from solid objects like normal sonar except when the sound waves come back they are made into a 3d graphical image of the world around it. I am not saying it is a perfect recreation of the world but more like a rough outline of the terrain and things around the guyver and somehow alerts the host through lets say neural connections between the c-medal and brain to anything it may consider a threat from this image.
Azaar Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 In short, you mean the way they showed Matt Murdock "seeing" in Daredevil? Admittedly, that sounds like an interesting premise, but I'm still not entirely convinced. I guess I'll stick with the "superior eyes" theory for the time being, although I still like my idea of them serving as motion detectors. But whatever floats your boat.
jedi-guyver Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 sonar wouldnt make sence as the sensary orbs can see THROUGH walls
OverLord Supreme Guyver(O Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 Actually I alwas thought it was like a type of sonar. My theory on how they work is like this, they send out sound waves which bounce back from solid objects like normal sonar except when the sound waves come back they are made into a 3d graphical image of the world around it. I am not saying it is a perfect recreation of the world but more like a rough outline of the terrain and things around the guyver and somehow alerts the host through lets say neural connections between the c-medal and brain to anything it may consider a threat from this image. If that was so the sensor orbs would be stationary and would not need to move to detect a object.
jedi-guyver Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 it may be that they give the host a telepathic "sight" enabling the host to sense anything in it range of "sight"
Guest Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 Two new options I thought of... 1) the sensors pick up electromagnetic radiation. All lifeforms emit electromagnetics through their nervous system and/or the ions in their metabolism (viz. Kirlian photography). The Guyver can perceive not only life-forms this way, but also other objects as interference in the standing EM-field of the Earth itself, while living beings would still stand out as much more complex clusters of radiation. He would also be able to perceive when they "power up". 2) the sensors actually perceive something even more subtle - life force. In Taoism, life force (chi) permeates all things and can be perceived and used to different ends. The Zoanoids, the Zoalords and the Guyver derive their immense might from focussing their life-force or increasing it - or both. If the Guyver were actually able to perceive life-force, he could recognize individuals this way, as well as the innate power of any enemy. What do you think?
Guest Posted August 26, 2003 Posted August 26, 2003 I think Sparky is describing it perfect sonar wouldnt make sence as the sensary orbs can see THROUGH walls um, Dolphins already use sonar to see through walls. This is something demonstrated at marine world. They also can use it to tell the difference between shapes and such. (squeels like dolphin-ee e, ee e. I love this job) As for OverLordSupreme Guyver0's comment about a need for the orbs to be on a track, he's right. Then again, if they emit radiation there might be no need for a track either. This is another thing that has confused me for a while. Just when you think you have it solved something else pops up. You also could have mentioned when Gigantic Dark used the gig sensor orbs to scan Imakarums black hole attack. It could have been observing the vibration pattern in the air of convection as it was sucked in, but this is a bit of a streatch.
Guest Posted September 8, 2003 Posted September 8, 2003 Who's to say that the sensory orbs use only one of these methods. Surely they would be far more effective if they scanned for several different things. Just my opinion. I mean, I highly doubt the sonar theory, considering the superiority of Creator technology, I think they have sensory technology far surpassing sonar. But, as I said, that's just opinion.
*zeo Posted September 8, 2003 Posted September 8, 2003 Personally, I think the orbs are a 3D sensory system that utilizes dimensional factors to map out the environment. Meaning the unit detects changes with the fabric of space time so can detect both motion and energy fields like a gravity attack. Remember the G-Unit can freely go back and forth from Hyper Space and as the Gigantic can navigate hyper space for teleport/travel that the hyper sensors must be more advance than simple SONAR. Our own vision is basically enhanced 2-D vision, only with both eyes do we have depth perception. The hyper sensors on the other hand perceive the entire environment and are true 3-D sensors. The fact they move around is not really all that surprising considering the human eye moves an average of 50 times a second. Though I could be wrong but that's what I think.
Guest Posted September 8, 2003 Posted September 8, 2003 I'll take your word for it Zeo, but until we get some sort of verification from Takaya we'll never know for sure and I think it was mentioned somewhere that he wasn't exactly the type to use science facts for his developement of powers so that verification could be a long way off......
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