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Hi everyone, this is the first time I've come to the forum to ask for help with my creative processes before, but Ryuki recommended I give this a shot so hopefully it'll work out swimmingly for everyone, instead of confusing everyone with my vague out of control Guyver daydreams XD

I wish to pursue a Guyver storyline, but I can't decide on a storyline to stick with and work on. So far my ideas include....

1) A story focusing on Guyver II F, in which instead of making a clean getaway to the airport, her car and luggage get blown away by zoanoids and she ends up having to go on the lam with Chronos U.S.A.'s strongest Hyper Zoanoids hot on her trail. Her goal? Get the hell out of the country and to Japan so she can achieve her mysterious purpose! only problem here is that I don't know how to proceed exactly, the plan is for the story to pick up shortly after Val blew a hole out the Pillars of Heaven, but I dunno how far she should get before her plan goes array, or if she should even disengage the unit before a zoanoid catches up to her, or if her identity is kept secret up til a point or not.

2) A story in which the Guyver Exceed has been defeated by Archanfel, and a new Council of Twelve has been created over the course of several years, or is in the process of being made. Sho maybe gone, but many other familiar old faces remain & continue his struggle, plus new guyvers are born to oppose Chronos once again! The problem with this storyline is that i can't figure out who to add/keep on the council & how to keep Chronos Earth Bound if Sho is no longer a threat...Like, would Archanfel's Council have to be incomplete? Or perhaps he'd have to be put back into dormancy like before? OR, would it be possible to delay his plans if the Ark were badly damaged? I mean, it only took him a YEAR to grow the Ark, so would it have to be completely destroyed to prevent him from leaving or would badly damaging the Ark be enough to delay his space pilgrimage?

3) A story in which everything that happened up to Valcuria's appearance still takes place, only now Valcuria is a loyal subject of Chronos like in the OVAs, chosen to don one of Chronos's experimental man-made Guyver units due to her skills and years of service. This time around, Chronos has created four guyver units including Val's, simply cuz it makes sense that Chronos would want to run the artificial control medals through several prototype phases before risking bonding one to Archanfel. However, as has happened in the past, everyone seems to want a piece of Chronos's tech, including Zeus Thunderbolt and Aptom! Who will end up possessing the new Guyvers? And at what cost?

Sorry to dump so many ideas on you guys all at once, but I really need to pick a storyline and focus on it and would appreciate any feedback you guys can give me :D

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I like idea 2 because it is possible for the manga to go in that direction (if Takay-san wants it to go that way). As for keeping Chronos Earth bound for a few more years, make it to where they're still replacing the lost members. Why not give Alky a Guyver Unit? He'd need a Unit in order to beat Exceed and recover.

You can do a lot with that story idea. Like, you could make one of the newest members a gun loving, sarcastic redneck :lol:

Just kidding on that, but still you can do a lot with adding new faces to the Council.

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I like idea 2 because it is possible for the manga to go in that direction (if Takay-san wants it to go that way). As for keeping Chronos Earth bound for a few more years, make it to where they're still replacing the lost members. Why not give Alky a Guyver Unit? He'd need a Unit in order to beat Exceed and recover. You can do a lot with that story idea. Like, you could make one of the newest members a gun loving, sarcastic redneck :lol: Just kidding on that, but still you can do a lot with adding new faces to the Council.

I toyed with the idea of making Archanfel a Guyver Zoalord cuz honestly that's just awesome, however, as cool as it is, its always seemed like an "end game scenario" to me, like the final boss. If Archanfel became a Guyver, NO ONE could threaten him anymore and all his problems would be pretty much solved, he'd be God King of the Universe at that point lol. I also believe that while the Guyver Exceed is powerful, that Archanfel is still a deadly match for him, I mean, if Archanfel is the strongest zoalord of all, and Sho had to struggle to kill Kahn in his ultimate form, then that means Archanfel is likely even more powerful still, a true rival for the Exceed. I figure Archanfel could beat the Exceed, but only after a major epic struggle and with the powers of the Five Fallen Zoalord Zoacrystals at his disposal to power him up further & maintain his health.

I figure that after defeating his greatest obstacle, he'd spend his time picking up the pieces of his organization, his plans delayed by lack of Council members to move the Ark or the Ark itself being destroyed so he'd need a new one made, or his could end up in another dormant mode again, or require additional medical attention to remain active or recharge (I figure he'd still be top dog of the planet and better off than we've seen him before, but still not quite at full power, especially after killing Sho (thus making the hunt for new Guyvers that much more important).

I compiled a list of my potential storyverse council of twelve, though i may need to drop some if ya think the Council should be short a few members for story purposes or switch them around, etc

1) Archanfel- Master Zoalord of Chronos & Ruler of Humanity

2) Imakuram Mirabilis- Commander in Chief under Archanfel

3) Hamilcar Barcus- Chief Scientist of Chronos

4) Sin Rubeo Amniculus- Zoalord of Russia, formerly North America & Japan

5) Tuatha de Galenos- Zoalord of India, formerly South America

6) Wadjet/Tamun/Cabar Mahotep- Zoalord of Africa

7) work in progress- Zoalord of Australia

8) Regina Alexandra- Zoalord of Europe

9) Griselda Onuma- Zoalord of Japan (I figure that maybe Griselda falls into Chronos hands after losing to Guyver II F, ends up being brainwashed and reoptimized just like Murakami was...Her healing powers may even be of great use to Archanfel's own poor health & help him stay active)

10) Dao Ying- Zoalord of China

11) Fulton/Michael Barcus (a clone of Barcus, has all his scientific knowledge plus a younger, stronger body, but lacks his dad's experience & may possess some other undesirable traits his dear old dad may not have counted for >8D)- Zoalord of North America

12) Calixta Cortes- Zoalord of South America

As you can see, I couldn't think up a Zoalord for Australia just yet, I was seriously considering the idea of keeping Jabir and Luggnagg alive & back in the fold after having recieved a severe thrashing from the now healthy Archanfel, who maybe spares them due to the lack of inactive guyver units available to tempt them & because he doesn't wish to delay his trip into space any longer than he has too. If I do spare them, they'd be the least popular Zoalords on the Council for their past actions, pretty much blacklisted...Though I dunno if Archanfel would let them live in classic Skeletor/Cobra Commander/Megatron fashion, confident that he could thwart them if they stirred up trouble again or if he'd just kill them and get it over with even at the cost of having to delay his plans again.

I also kinda wanted to add one or two more non-human Zoalords to the council like Waferdanos, perhaps a mermaid and/or werewolf Zoalord from Silha, chosen for their worship of Archanfel and ignorance of man's greed. Just dunno what Chronos branches they'd command and what their powers and names would be just yet XD

What ya think so far? Thanks for your help btw River Chaos, I really appreciate the help :D

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A clone of Dr. Barcas with a younger body :shock: If you can pull that off, you will have my eternal respect!

As for Griselda....I do not see that happening. Maybe a Zoalady/lord with similar yet more refined healing powers, possible. Hmmm.....In my fanfic, my OC has healing abilities and Zeus' Thunder based Griselda's powers off of what they got from torturing the OC. Maybe you could do something similar, just in a different way like Barcas disecting Griselda once she's killed.

PS: The new Guyvers wouldn't nessecarily have to fight the Zoalords straight away. They could cause holy havic by destroying processing facilities and whatnot, continuously challenging Chronos' power.

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A clone of Dr. Barcas with a younger body :shock: If you can pull that off, you will have my eternal respect! As for Griselda....I do not see that happening. Maybe a Zoalady/lord with similar yet more refined healing powers, possible. Hmmm.....In my fanfic, my OC has healing abilities and Zeus' Thunder based Griselda's powers off of what they got from torturing the OC. Maybe you could do something similar, just in a different way like Barcas disecting Griselda once she's killed. PS: The new Guyvers wouldn't nessecarily have to fight the Zoalords straight away. They could cause holy havic by destroying processing facilities and whatnot, continuously challenging Chronos' power.

LOL, glad ya like the idea of a "Son of Barcus" character, I was tempted to do a clone of Archanfel instead, but I think alot of other writers have done that angle already, like in the Warrior Guyver & W'kar fics, so I figured a clone of Barcus would be the next best thing. A young zoalord with the mind of Dr. Barcus and his own battle form would make for a deadly combination I think, especially since curious young folk can be quite cruel. I'm torn between naming him after the Guyver Mutronics Zoalord, Fulton, or giving him his own unique name, I figure he should at least bear his dad's last name, unless there being two Barcuses would be to confusing?

As for Griselda, my idea for her was that she'd be captured by Chronos & reconditioned like Murakami was, remade into Archanfel's loyal subject with an upgraded Zoaform. I mean, if there's a reason why she couldn't be given the "Imakuram treatment," please let me know (I like to cover all my bases when doing a fan stories lol). If ya really think it couldn't be done, I do like the idea of Barcus dissecting Griselda to learn how her body works and implementing her features into a new Supreme Zoalord, who in turn maybe uses her healing powers to assist Archanfel & improve his health.

I agree that the Zoalords don't need to directly confront the new guyvers right away, I just figured I should have the council all figured out before beginning the tale, even had an idea in mind in which the story begins with the current council discussing world affairs & chronos's current status.

As for the Guyvers, I have an few ideas for how to bring them into the story...

1) Agito & Griselda were both lost fighting Chronos, leaving Professor Hekkering behind with limited time left & with whatever resources were left behind by his former leaders. I figure he could spend his final years of life causing trouble for Chronos with a new breed of Libertus and/or Griselda type Zoalord with longevity in mind at the cost of some of their strength, his ultimate goal being to create his own guyver units from data taken from Guyver III, & bond one to one of his creations to a create a guyver zoanoid capable of crushing Chronos (at this point he just doesn't want to die knowing Chronos will triumph, he wants somesort of legacy or last laugh at Barcus). Unfortunately, a Chronos raid on his secret lab results in the Guyvers being lost, himself & most of his staff killed...But at least one Guyver unit is recovered by a young man with a real hate for Chronos, & he in turn receives help from a surviving Griselda type zoalord in his new war on Chronos (& possibly the other guyvers, depending on who acquires them).

2) Chronos discovers a new Relic Ship, containing guyver units inside & Nav Spheres for the Ark, but the Relic is targeted by one or more Anti-Chronos factions, namely Zeus Thunderbolt, Aptom, or Guyver II F (possibly all of them XD). In the case of Agito at least, I'm thinking maybe his control medal could have been damaged fighting Archanfel or Imakuram & thus he seeks a replacement unit so he doesn't end up like Lisker, but one way or another the units slip through the fingers of those who sought them & end up bonding to new wielders. If I choose Aptom or Guyver II F over Zeus Thunderbolt, they could just be looking for any edge they can find over Chronos.

3) Same as idea 2, Chronos finds a new relic ship with unit Gs inside, only Agito & Griselda are both dead like in idea 1, but Aptom, the Segawas, & Natsuki track Hekkering down in North America & convince him to convert some or all of them into Lost Number zoanoids so they can continue Sho's fight & aid Aptom on the battlefield as the new Lost Number Commandos. The Commandos target the relic, intending to take the Guyvers & use them against Chronos, but of course Fate has a funny way of working out >;3. This idea hinges on whether or not Tetsuro and company would resort to becoming Zoaforms if Sho were really dead & they were that desperate to continue the fight without being burdens to Aptom, though i suppose alternatively they could remain human & learn from Doc Hekkering before he dies, enough to help Aptom recruit people for his new commando team (a support staff as it were).

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Heck, I like idea 3.

You could've tried something like Alkanphel fathering a child like I did in my fanfic or Obsidian Ice (in his fic, Imakarum is Alkanphel's son) if you didn't want to be cliche with the clone idea. It's up to you, but I think it would be hilarious to see a younger clone of Barcas especially since you can do a whole lot with the clone's personality. Your only limitation is the sky.

Try contacting Kenji, Bannana King, or Obsidian. They're dang good fanfic writers, maybe they could give you some ideas.

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Heck, I like idea 3.

You could've tried something like Alkanphel fathering a child like I did in my fanfic or Obsidian Ice (in his fic, Imakarum is Alkanphel's son) if you didn't want to be cliche with the clone idea. It's up to you, but I think it would be hilarious to see a younger clone of Barcas especially since you can do a whole lot with the clone's personality. Your only limitation is the sky.

Try contacting Kenji, Bannana King, or Obsidian. They're dang good fanfic writers, maybe they could give you some ideas.

Awesome, thanks for the input and advice :D

BTW, in your opinion, does the name Regina Alexandra sound more like a solid European name or a South American name?

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Alexandra, yes it sound European. Regina.... :doubt: not entirely sure. I've never heard of that name before.

Regina's a Latin name meaning Queen, I picked it cuz I thought it sounded regal & flowed well with Alexandra. I also considered...

1) Eleanor

2) Zara

3) Keira

4) Amber

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