gelionlegends Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Hi i know or think i know that somewhere the answer is possibly on the board and i am just asking the question another way. But on the bioships that are discovered by the guyvers and Cronos the Control Medal is very much like the guyvers correct? Then shouldn't it be possible for the CM to be able with time regenerate the entire ship like the guyvers control medal. Though i think it would take more time for the process to be completed as a bioship aka the relics are much larger than a guyver unit is. That and the processing power i know that the CM for the bioship is physically larger than the guyvers and is more powerful right? Though the next generation up to warrior guyver and black nova series CM's are more powerful. Is there a likely chance that a bioship could end up being given something like the warrior guyver's type of control medal. if so then that ship should also become more powerful as well as being able to process more data and compute even faster than the original CM of the bioships? Well the reason why was because of a story idea i had and had been reading up on trek voyager and wondered if the CM of a Bioship would be able to handle the computations for QSD or not. maybe needing more than one though i am not sure on what the advent really use if its opening a wormhole or folding space like in robotech. Quote
Azaar Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I'm not the all-knowing tech guru that zeo1234 is, but I think I'll take a stab at this. There is a lot in common between the Guyver's control medal and the Relic's own control medal -- recall, if you will, that the Uranus (Creators) originally tested the Guyver unit on a human to see if the human would be able to pilot the Relics. It seems a fair assumption to make that, with enough energy from the Bio-Boost dimension (since I'm assuming that's what powers the Relics, just as it ultimately does the Guyver), the Relic would be able to repair itself, though the energy requirements would likely be much more intensive and the regeneration of the Relic would take longer as a result (I'm assuming this is due solely to the sheer magnitude of difference in size between a Relic and a Guyver). As for the "upgraded" Relics with Warrior Guyver control medals and the like... I have a theory that many of the Gen Relics that housed the various Projects (such as the Hydra, Clandestine, Stellar, etc.) have the same type of control medals, in order to make things more efficient for the Relic, as well as the pilot/Relic bonding for when the Gen were engaging in space travel at that time. Granted, I can't really prove it offhand (unless it's mentioned in some obscure corner of Time War or something like that), but it seems a plausible scenario to run with. Quote
largo Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I believe the war relic had a warrior style CM as do the relics of WG2's dimension. Quote
*zeo Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 But on the bioships that are discovered by the guyvers and Cronos the Control Medal is very much like the guyvers correct? Yes, the Navigation Spheres are binary counterparts to the unit CM and serve pretty much the same function for the Relic but since the Relic has no host that it then falls to the CM unit host to provide instructions and the will to tell the Relic what to do... The larger size also provides additional capacities that are not shown by the host unit CM... like being able to repair the CM is something that apparently on the Navigation Spheres are capable of, as well as providing the means to re-purpose themselves as shown by the creation of the Gigantic... Then shouldn't it be possible for the CM to be able with time regenerate the entire ship like the guyvers control medal. Though i think it would take more time for the process to be completed as a bioship aka the relics are much larger than a guyver unit is. Yes and no, Relics can be killed... The Arizona Relic, for example, is specifically fossilized... meaning it had long since died and is little more than a rocky shell that still contained the original Navigation Spheres... The Arizona Relic was just special to Chronos because those Navigation Spheres contained the knowledge of the Creators and is where Chronos gained most of its zoaforming technology from... While the Relic can still live without the Navigation Spheres, as shown by Archanphel's Silha Island that was originally the Relic damaged by the original Guyver 0... the basic rule is Relics appear to require external energy sources and those near natural geothermal energy sources can thrive while those without eventually die... but like any living thing the Relics are capable of a certain amount of regeneration on their own... It just may be that for more it requires the presence of a host/pilot mind to tell the Navigation Spheres... The creation of the Gigantic suggest they are capable of a lot but only if there's someone to tell/will it to do so... That and the processing power i know that the CM for the bioship is physically larger than the guyvers and is more powerful right? Though the next generation up to warrior guyver and black nova series CM's are more powerful. Yes, but without a host mind to tell it what to do then it just sits there... forever... but when a host mind is available then it's capable of just about anything, as the creation of the Gigantic is testament to... Is there a likely chance that a bioship could end up being given something like the warrior guyver's type of control medal. if so then that ship should also become more powerful as well as being able to process more data and compute even faster than the original CM of the bioships? Not everything is up to the CM/NS alone... Like a Guyver is only a Guyver when bonded to a human or zoaform host... The Creators used the same unit but they were never Guyvers... Similarly, a War Relic would rely on how it's purposed and designed as to what it's exact capabilities would be but it would operate more efficiently and be capable of a greater range of capabilities than a similar designed and purposed Creator bio-ship... and like a regular Relic, it can do more but would similarly require a host/pilot to tell it what to do... Well the reason why was because of a story idea i had and had been reading up on trek voyager and wondered if the CM of a Bioship would be able to handle the computations for QSD or not. maybe needing more than one though i am not sure on what the advent really use if its opening a wormhole or folding space like in robotech. The Boost Dimension is both used for power and for FTL travel, as well as short range teleportation... So it's all wormholes... The Guyver Blast Field is actually a wormhole and the destructive effect is from the event horizon... There is some leeway on how we can present and use any bio-ships in the fan-fic, especially since the Manga is a bit vague on much of the details of exactly what the Relic is and how it works... So we can theorize on details like whether the Relic organism is the same as the Guyver Unit's or only a similar organism... I personally think it's the same but without a host to merge with it remains in whatever state the creator tech put it in... and it basically requires the equivalent of stem cells for the organism to return to its original state but a Relic would lack this... at least in sufficient quantities to ever worry about it going rogue... leaving it to the Navigation Spheres to serve the purpose of DNA, etc... While we know not all Relics were used for the same things... The Arizona Relic stands out as a repository of Creator knowledge and is the source of most of Chronos zoaform technology and even the plans to the Ark... while the Relic that became Silha Island contained genetic samples and experiments, and is thus the source of most the strange and exotic life on Silha Island... So keep in mind that just like ships we would build, the creators specialized their's as needed and it's not just about what kind of CM or Navigation Sphere it was equipped with... Quote
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