RavenShaolin Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Twin Guyvers : Possibility or Impossibility? here is the setting, take two (2) functional unbonded Guyver units and one (1) host bond both units to the one host at different times, now when you call the armor both control medals should try to assert themselves and act like a damaged unit (very painful) we muster up the courage grab both control medals and RIP.... both control medals will rebuild the host and thus we have in effect 2 perfect clones with intact memory..both with Guyver armor (of course the armors very in style & color slightly.... whats your thoughts on this idea and why do you think this would or would not work... please be friendly in this discussion and consider the theory before you totally debunk it..... Quote
McAvoy Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 First off, you need to turn them on with some sort of switch. I guess this is a safety feature so that anyone who handles one won't get bonded to one. So I would imagine if two units are trying to merge with a host, that there would be some sort of interaction between the two units preventing one from bonding with the other. I mean think about it, two control medals trying to control a single armor. It wouldn't work. I mean if this was possible what's preventing anyone from having 50 units from bonding to you or more? I mean either he/she would have 50x or 1.0^100 strength. He would be able to lift either 2,000 tons or 4.0^98 tons. That's billion billion billion billion times the mass of Earth! Quote
RavenShaolin Posted May 17, 2006 Author Posted May 17, 2006 I'm not talking about 2 control medals running 1 unit I'm talking about 2 units and 2 armors on 1 hose for the purpose of ripping out one unit and creating 2 separate Guyvers Quote
McAvoy Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 That's what I was talking about too. I do not think you can have two units on the same host at the same time. I don't think it works that way. If it was possible, then I'd say yes you can have clone of the original with it's own unit. However it could be that the control medal might not work on it's own after working with the other. Who knows? Quote
RavenShaolin Posted May 18, 2006 Author Posted May 18, 2006 thats why im gathering data and theroy so i can write in something like that into a short story...... Quote
*zeo Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 Yes, 2 units can't be bonded at the same time because of the CM's. They weren't designed to function on the same host unit, which is one of the reasons why the Relic CM had to merge itself with the host CM in order to form the Gigantic. It wouldn't work as a seperate unit since control/interface with the host and unit have to be perfectly synchronized. But if you really want clones why not invent something like a device that can backup the data of one CM to another. After all we do know CM's can be damaged so perhaps the Creators have a way to rescue the host data from a damaged CM and replace it. Though this would mainly be for use when a unit remover is for some reason either non-functional or unavailable. But for your fic you can have it that the CM copied was fully functional so you would have 2 identical hosted units. Thus giving you the twin Guyver scenario. Course there are other interesting scenarios, like what if the copy was different somehow (it was made for Creator hosts in mind after all), but I'll leave that up to your imagination. Quote
RavenShaolin Posted May 18, 2006 Author Posted May 18, 2006 not a bad idea how a bout start out with 2 damaged units bonding to one hose then getting split up and repaired by a unit repair module or a cm back up device? since the cm's are essentially damaged and there switched on and unpredictable hell one unit could read the DNA and memory before being rejected by the other cm and we could still end up with twin Guyvers Quote
*zeo Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 No, when removed the host data is erased from the CM automatically. Though if you have two damaged units you can have the possibility of two trying to bond to the same host but ultimately they would fail but if the units get repaired then they could possibly then function as you describe but the host data would be split between them and like Jurassic Park something else would have to fill the gaps in the genome and host brain data. So you could go wild with the results on that idea. Incidently in this scenario the original host would essentially be dead having been torn between the two units. Quote
RavenShaolin Posted May 18, 2006 Author Posted May 18, 2006 problly i'll think of something maybe an alternate reality crossover ot the like Quote
McAvoy Posted May 19, 2006 Posted May 19, 2006 The only way I see you have two clones without the usual alternate reality scanerio would be if the unit was special somehow. The control medal could be split in half to create two seperate but absolute clones of the host and unit. Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 IF both medals are damaged, but in different parts, ie different functions have been damaged, wouldn't the merging of the two damaged CM's create in theory one undamaged CM? Just food for thought, but since two undamaged CM's can't be on one host, then wouldn't they also merge together anyway like with the Relic? Quote
McAvoy Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 In theory yes. But I don't think Control Medals on their own could do it. So there would need a outside source to help it. But if this outside source could do this, then why merge one control medal when you can repair both? This begs the question what would have happened if Guyver 3 and Guyver 1's control medals were both damaged during the formation of the Gigantic cocoon. Quote
largo Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 Yah seriously two armors for one person is kind of overboard. But I really like the idea of having two damaged units working together to control one armor. Acutally I think it actually might be possible. If I remember correctly in GWOTG there is a guyver similar to that. Quote
McAvoy Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 That's I believe Psycho Guyver and he had two control medals like Guyver 4 of WG.com Quote
RavenShaolin Posted July 6, 2006 Author Posted July 6, 2006 guyver 4 and phyco guyver ... can you piont ton the treads? Quote
The Crimson Guyver Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 also if you had 2 CMs on you I think you would have to call the first one and the second one to have 2 but the only thing is what would a 2 unit host look like Quote
RavenShaolin Posted July 6, 2006 Author Posted July 6, 2006 also if you had 2 CMs on you I think you would have to call the first one and the second one to have 2 but the only thing is what would a 2 unit host look like atually i'm drawing out a two unit host i'm going with the broken cm path and i'm greating a new tool called the cm repair madual my twin guyver story is under way Quote
RavenShaolin Posted July 6, 2006 Author Posted July 6, 2006 i don't see why not i could always use hel if you want to grab me via Yahoo messenger Quote
RavenShaolin Posted July 7, 2006 Author Posted July 7, 2006 mine is a_dark_Shaolin i sent you an im Quote
Azaar Posted October 9, 2006 Posted October 9, 2006 Grife, been ages since I've been around the forums. Heh. Well... McAvoy wrote: The only way I see you have two clones without the usual alternate reality scanerio would be if the unit was special somehow. The control medal could be split in half to create two seperate but absolute clones of the host and unit. Hmm... maybe an accident with the Assassin Unit would fit the bill there, assuming duplicates were made? It's dual-CM, although technically the primary CM is the hidden one (I assume hidden via subspace), while the secondary CM is the visible one that all Guyvers have. Quote
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