Guyver to Gigantic Guyver Power Differences?

[Guest]

Any official statistics regarding strength levels of gigantics compared to regular guyvers? I know, I know, i've posted similar strength topics before, what can I say i'm obsessed with figures.

However as always, i have my reasons for asking these questions! My particular interest is in the difference between regular guyver and gigantic guyver mega smasher power! Considering Alkanphel can repel 3 regular guyver mega smasher blasts with a simple wave of the hand, its a little worrying as to how a gigantic is ever going to stand a chance against him! I know the gigantic mega smasher blast is significantly more powerful than the regular guyver blast, but does the power of the blast come into it? Could Alkanphel repel any blast, regardless of power level?

[*zeo]

Officially, no not much is known except the capabilities of the Gigantic like shields, boost dimension/hyper space/teleportation jumping, weapons like the chest spike, back thrusters, number of sonic buster emitters and hyper sensory orbs, energy channeling for attacks like the power punch, and how well it compares to the four different Zoalords battled so far. But from what has been observed so far we do not believe the Gigantic can defeat Alkanphel except under certain special conditions.

Physical facts, the Gigantic has three gravity control orbs with two being right on top of the Hyper Smashers. Since we know the hyper smashers are basically very powerful particle beam cannons then we know the extra gravity orbs can act as acceleration boosters increasing the speed and power of the particle stream. This combined with the increased energy discharge from the larger Smasher cells could very well mean the Hyper Smashers are more than 2x more powerful than a regular Mega Smasher beam.

So to answering your question in regards to Alkanphel there are two factors that would come into play. One is the fact Alkanphel is basically dying so if they can catch him in a weakened state then they can get past his defenses. Factor 2 is a more powerful Smasher Beam will of course be more difficult to deflect and thus will be harder for Alkanphel to redirect, he might only be able to shield himself from the attack instead of redirecting it.

There is a downside however, each time so far in the Manga that the full double Hyper Smash was used the Gigantic promptly self deactivate shortly after. So this will have to be a coup de grace attack or the Guyver will Risk facing Alkanphel with nothing but their standard unit.

On the possible plus side the Guyvers could tag team to help wear Alkanphel down before exhausting both Guyver's Gigantic modes.

But then one would have to wonder with what would happen between the two Guyvers once Alkanphel is defeated and which one would be the last to use the Gigantic.

[Guest]

You forgot to mention the frequency whips. The frequency swords of the standard unit, can stretch out like long whips on the gigantic. That meens that the gigantic doesn't even have to move to play slice and dice, he can just stand there.

The head beam also seemed to have a few differences. Penetration power of the beam. The gigantic can go through buildings, the standard can burn holes in zoanoids. This is debatable though, and since the head beam has always been a high energy weapon that depends on the energy level of the host...

And I was thinking of the 'giga smasher' as operating just a bit differently. We know the gravity controller is what siphons energy from the boost dimension. I was thinking that each gravity controller for the gigasmasher could channel that much more energy directly into a cell. That each gigasmasher cell can fire as much as a standard guyvers entire power supply, not to mention the primary gravity controller at the waist.

I like Zeo's idea of particle beam path reinforcment. Would this be akin to the pressure canon's method of launching a pressure ball? By cancelling out gravitation like forces to provide only one path for the weapon to travel? I never would have thought of applying it to this, though I thought in the pressure canon sense the gravity controller was providing the energy, while surrounding organs such as the energy compressors on the back of the wrists did all the work.

Oh, and when Sho was megasmashed with the relic by Alkanphel, it was his realization while linked to the relic that he couldn't defeat twelve zoalords, and his desire to save his loved ones against them, that the gigantic was formed. The control metal transformed itself to make his will into reality, though Sho didn't exactly specify how. Basically the gigantic grants him the power of a zoalord. But then, how does a human zoalord compare against Alkanphel? Against a born zoalord?

[*zeo]

Clarification: A particle beam weapon is just like a fire hose. You can add more water/particles but the real power comes from the speed the stream is fired.

All particle beam weapons work this way so it is not so much my idea. The placement of the two orbs right on the chest plates just allows for them to be used to help accelerate the particle stream when fired. Otherwise they would have been placed anywhere on the body, including right next to the waist orb.

Simply removing the effect of gravity would not help, particles have to be accelerated to give them more power. It would be more like dropping a rock from a high place. The gravity field will help focus and accelerate the particle stream so it is moving faster, more concentrated, and thus has more power. Particle beams are basically kinetic weapons and thus work in similar fashion to other kinetic physics like rockets, firehoses, etc where particles are streamed. The only limit is when the stream reaches light speed then you can only increase the quantity of particles being streamed but a normal Mega Smash isn't that fast while the Gigantic is close to being that fast as was shown with the beam going out into space and past the moon without its course being significantly altered.

The fact the Gigantic will deactivate after firing the Hyper Smashers shows already that it uses a lot of energy so I only described the firing aspect of the beams and how the gravity orbs play a role in that as well. It wasn't my intention to exclude their function in providing power, but even with them the unit still can't maintain unit power for more than one firing of both cells at a time before the Gigantic is forced to deactivate.