Apocalypse vs Thanos

[H222G981]

In your opinion. Could Apocalypse beat Thanos in a one on one fight?

 

I'm thinking maybe? But than again.....I'm not sure.

 

[Guyver1]

Hmmm... I say Thanos wins. Mainly because I am a Marvel guy. LOL

[durendal]

You say apocalypse but the image is that of Darkseid (or perhaps this is a DC version of Apocalypse that I'm not aware of).  If you're talking about Apocalypse of the X-men, Thanos will definitely wipe his arse on the floor.  Darkseid, however, is a different story.  If this is somehow a DC Apocalypse, then I do not have enough information to offer an opinion.

[*guyverfan]

like durendal said,

also, depends on wether thanos has all the infinity stones or not at the time.

[Salkafar]

Let's say Thanos does not have the Infinity Gems, since he is invincible when he has them. The only reason he was defeated the one time he was wielding them when their power was allowed to work in unison - which they have not been for a long time thanks to the Living Tribunal, severely curtailing their power - was that Adam Warlock was already inside one of the gems and managed to snatch the power from Thanos from within.

 

But even without the Gems, Thanos might be the most dangerous individual in the Marvel universe.

 

To explain just what or who he is, I need to go deep for a while.

 

In the Marvel universe, Earth is populated by a range of intelligent races. However, most of them are related as they are ultimately descended from a species of human - probably Homo Ergaster. About a million years ago, representatives of a race of alien gods, usually called the Celestials, came to Earth to experiment on the natives. They took some early humans and genetically altered them, creating three groups: the Deviants, genetically unstable beings who look like monsters and demons to human eyes; human beings, who are unassuming, but possess the capacity to develop a vast array of super-powers; and Eternals, who are immortal and possess immense, god-like abilities.

Anyway. A yonks age ago, a group of Eternals left Earth after a civil war and established a colony on Uranus. Later, some of them left, but crashed on the moon Titan, establishing a new colony. Much later, another Eternal (A'lars, later known as Mentor) left Earth, to avoid a civil war this time, and decided to seek out the Eternals who had left Earth before. But he discovered the colony had died out (Yeah, turns out that immortality thing didn't fully develiop until later) except for one single woman called Sui-San, whom he married. They had kids (I am guessing they had other Eternals join them, too) and everything seemed just peachy.

 

Here's where we get to the meat. The first son of Mentor and Sui-San was deformed. He carried the 'Deviant gene' (which makes no sense, but whatever) and looked ugly and brutish compared to the other Eternals, especially his younger brother, Eros. The older son was named Thanos. His mother tried to kill him the moment she lay eyes on him, claiming he would destroy them all.

Well. Thanos grew up normal enough at first, despite his odd looks, because Eternal society was advanced and stable. But gradually he developed an unnatural and unhealthy fascination for death. Or, rather, for Death - because in the Marvel Universe, the phenomenon Death has an actual embodiment. She usually looks like a female (sic) skeleton in a deep purple hooded cloak and almost never speaks.

I wouldn't say she's evil. She's a necessary part of existence. But sometimes she gets a little tetchy when she thinks her interests are threatened.

Anyway, Thanos fell in love with her, and decided he would do anything to make her happy, which unfortunately meant he was going to kill lots and lots of people. He left Titan, travelled the galaxy, gathered an army around himself and eventually returned to his ancestral home and dropped a nuclear bomb on it. Some say Sui-San was killed in the bombardment, others that Thanos found her alive and vivisected her to discover why he was different from the other Eternals.

It never really got better from that moment on. Thanos loves Death and will do anything to win her favor. His most ambitious project was obtaining the six Infinity Gems and uniting their power in his famous gauntlet, which allowed him to manipulate reality as if he were God - or Eternity, anyway. He could control everything in the universe. On this occasion the Living Tribunal did not interfere because Thanos only wanted to supplant Eternity's position.

Anyway, he failed, and he's never done anything on that level ever again. He did undergo a personal evolution, becoming more about soul-searching and less about killing everybody, even attaining finally what he always wanted: to be at Death's side.

Unfortunately it became necessary to return him to life and make him immortal, and Death has spurned him ever since, driving him to murderous madness once more. His latest project involved killing all his living offspring in the universe in another desperate attempt to regain her affection.

 

Thing is, it's been called into question whether Thanos really has a relationship with the (very much real) embodiment of Death, or whether it's all in his head.

 

Thanos is a very interesting and complex character.

 

As for power: Thanos has strived his entire life to make himself as powerful as he possibly can be. And he was born an Eternal. He has undergone biochemical, cybernetic and mystical enhancement, and has mastered pretty much any kind of technology, including magic. He's as strong and invulnerable as the Hulk, extremely intelligent and capable of various radiant energy attacks (all Eternals are).

 

By comparison, Apocalypse seems outclassed. Born in Egypt, about 5000 years ago, he was one of the first manifested mutants (and mutants are people in which the genetic changes by the Celestials, which create super-powers, have become active). His power was basically that he could change his shape and that he was immortal (There are a bunch of naturally immortal mutants. These guys are known as X-Ternals, as a reference to the Eternals. Cute.) . However, after a few years or centuries, on his journeys, he discovered something extraordinary - a crashed alien vessel, which activated upon his entry, and greatly enhanced his abilities. The space ship was another artifact of the Celestials and it contacted them; and he, in return, managed to broker a deal with them, to receive great power in return for his servitude. Just what this servitude entailed is not clear, but it might have something to do with his life philosophy: he believes in natural selection, that the strongest should survive and that circumstances have to be arranged so that only the strongest survive. That was his thing. He kept plaguing the X-Men, got killed almost every time and inevitably returned time and time again. His biology is such that if even a single drop of blood of him remains, he will survive. Even his disembodied consciousness is capable of survival inside a suitable host.

 

He's really powerful, but I don't think he's on Thanos' level. He's a lot older, I should think, but he hasn't learned nearly as much. He remains a simple thinker, who mainly uses brute force and base cunning to force a situation in which the strong must fight to survive. His arena is planetary, at most, while Thanos' is all of reality.

 

But in a one-on-one battle? ..I'd still give it to Thanos, but it'd be a hell of a fight.

[Shin Mefilas]

Basicly Thanos is everything Apocalypse wishes he was. Also Apocalypse is the biggest hypocrite in the Marvel Universe. He goes on and on about the survival of the fittest and that he's the fittest despite the fact that he's been beaten over and over again. He's so arrogant that he once actually traveled to Asgard and challenge Thor to a fight just to try and prove he was better. You can guess how that turned out for him.

Edited October 13, 2015 by Prometheus Guyver