Mirabilis Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 This may seem more like a rant or maybe a vent, but honestly, we all think about it. Why does Guyver not perform so well with producers or audiences? I mean it definitely has appeal. It has an amazing story, incredible battles/fight scenes, a complex plot, memorable characters, and has influenced scifi in many ways. It's sparked three versions of animes and two films. I just don't get it. Why so many people prefer things like fullmetal or some of this newer stuff that's coming out that I think is garbage. Even if Guyver didn't or doesn't get another chance of a remake or continuation it's still a great show that could be aired, I can guarantee it would gain a great fanbase if they gave it a shot. There was more I wanted to say, but I am sort of tired and can't remember, I'll post it when I do, in the mean time I would really like to hear more than just common sense sort of answers, like producers don't think it's worth it, or what not. That goes without saying, but I feel like people are looking for some sort of appeal or look or something, and they don't think Guyver can deliver...which makes no sense to me, because I can promise all of you, every single person I have ever shown Guyver to, told me they loved it not one person has ever told me they didn't like it. Quote
Guest Diespiter Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 This is where my frustration is at with alot of manga and anime. Nothing good is coming to America, and for a lot of good reasons.Alot of manga publishing companies are dying.Manga and anime sales in America has dropped 43% since 2007, an even bigger drop than domestically produced comics and graphic novels, suggesting that more than the bad economy is to blame.Maybe the reduction in the amount of anime shown on American TV from the heights of 2003-2005 was another factor; licensed shows like Sailor Moon, DBZ and Pokémon planted the seeds of fandom in millions of minds, but as American TV producers saw all the money they were making, they decided it was more profitable in the long run to create their own anime-esque TV series like Voltron Force and Speed Racer: The Next Generation, so they get all the rights and don't have to censor panty shots.Certainly the collapse of Borders didn't help since Borders made up between 1/3rd and 1/5th of manga market dollar sales; Borders graphic novel buyer and manga fan Kurt Hassler, who later left the bookstore business to co-found Yen Press, was the trend-setter who turned chain bookstores into the #1 manga destination . The past four years have seen company after company go out of business: Central Park Media, Go! Comi, DC's manga imprint CMX, Tokyopop, and recently the manga arm of Bandai Entertainment.Manga is hurting the way that all print media is hurting ; but in some ways it's worse, because manga is ill-equipped to adapt to New Media. Like American comic books, manga started out as cheap entertainment for kids, but while American comics faced their dwindling readership by turning into an adult collector's item with color, thicker paper and higher production values, manga magazines.There's not enough profits being generated because alot of manga is directed at younger audiences, like teenagers and kids that are barely 10 years old.Perhaps the fact that manga has a younger audience than American comics, which has always been considered a strength, is now a weakness: older collectors have money and like to spend it but many teenagers don't have credit cards or paypal accounts to pay for things online, and for really young kids, free-to-play is what they know.So we won't be seeing Guyver for a very long....long time due to on going issues such as this. It also didn't help that both Films that were produced in the 90's. Guyver and Guyver 2 Dark Hero didn't suceed in ways that met the producer's expectations. It didn't help that people didn't like the first film either. If anything, We may never see another Guyver film or anime series for as long as we live. It may be 10-30 years before anything is considered at all or never. I guess if you get overly frustrated in this area as I have. Finding a new hobby or new interest along the lines helps when the thing you love isn't getting anywhere. If we all stay really faithful. Perhaps Michael Bay will come along and make a really horrible remake that we can all complain and bicker about for many years. 1 Quote
*Jess♥ Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 At the end of the day, Guyver DOESN'T deliver. that is the main problem and is why many people lose interest. I've been following Guyver since I was twelve years old and it is still not finished. not because it's massive and epic, but because the mangaka is SLOW and releases such a SMALL amount of material. I won't hear excuses for him any more. he even has an assistant. Ever month when it comes to Guyver release, I am disappointed. it is a total let down. we are being drip fed this manga and it is just depleting all the impact it might otherwise have. I am seriously considering just releasing the monthly chapter to the pre-orders and not even reading it myself because I want some damn substance. This is why Guyver is not popular. any time anyone sees Guyver they see a story that is not finished and doesn't look like it'll be finished in any decent pace. They see it has taken almost 30 years to release an amount of story that would fit in a series of 52 episodes. and it's not finished. I like that Guyver is not finished for the sole reason that I can continue to provide for you guys with this website. it is a big part of my life and I would miss it if it were not here. But it is so damn frustrating that Guyver is really so very unsatisfying. Guyver is a great story, I love it more than most other stories. But let me ask you about another great story, Harry potter. how would you feel if you could only read a page per week? Would it have been a global success? no of course not. it would have bombed. 2 Quote
RazorLaser Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 It's very unfortunate that it isn't as popular as other manga/anime. What everyone said above this post is spot on, and it sucks. However, I do like the fact that Guyver isn't exploited like Bayformers or the new TMNT. Sure, it would reach a much wider audience, but on the other hand, there is so much room for f**k ups, which I don't know if I or we could handle. I love the story, the characters, the setting, the concept etc... And I very much enjoy the monthly chapters and am always looking forward to reading them. I dunno. I'm drunk, and I may or may not be making sense. But as long as Takaya lives, Guyver lives. And I am very happy with that, at least. 2 Quote
LordSpleach Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Yuki does have a great point. Most people who do enjoy manga are used to weekly releases than monthly. I don't mind monthly releases though because I'm just used to through the American comic system. I wonder what Takaya-sensei does that keeps him on the slow monthly release. I think Guyver must not have that certain X factor that resonates with the public like Dragonball, Sailor Moon, Power Rangers, etc. does. 2 Quote
Aether Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 .... Every month when it comes to Guyver release, I am disappointed. it is a total let down. we are being drip fed this manga and it is just depleting all the impact it might otherwise have.I am seriously considering just releasing the monthly chapter to the pre-orders and not even reading it myself because I want some damn substance.... its funny reading your rant Yuki as it cant be denied that what you say is true...in fact ive been considering doing the same thing as I used to years ago, and that is just don't read for a year and have a volume worth of material to read at once or within a shorter time period ! back then I didn't participate in the forums and would wait for a tank release although when I signed up and started to post I thought I had better make the effort and read along and join in! but even now I can not / will not read a chapter until its scanlated, as for me it ruins knowing what is kind of going to happen before I can actually read the dialogue, so I still miss out anyway cause other people ''read'' the raws and I dont, so I miss the conversation anyway, so I might aswell wait even longer to read it....I dunno, i'm torn as what to do. it is twice as frustrating that Takaya has breaks and then recap chapters and then we get a small amount of pages sometimes!!! BUT I do understand why... if I was a pro mangak, if I was allowed I would probably work at a similar pace!! I can draw when I need to - but I am s - l - o w! he seems to be in the dream position of having a successful manga that fans are willing to keep on following and his publisher just lets him keep the same pace... good for him but not so much for the fans... anyway im not bashing Takaya I just wish he would hurry up already!!!!!!!!! as for manga in the USA and the UK it swelled and the bubble burst I guess... all genres and ages are catered for in Japan and pretty much the same in Europe, but here and there I think choice titles were chosen to be released and they cant last for ever or all have the popularity or longevity of DBZ etc. etc... 1 Quote
river_chaos Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Guyver seems to have a streak of bad luck outside of Japan. The American live action movie being prime example (though a certain movie producer on the crew was reknowned for his B rated crap had a lot to do with that monstrosity), a lot of things kept getting screwed up on epic proportions and a lot on small stuff. Translation mistakes were made, dialogue is earlier comic adaptions were dumbed down to kiddy level despite the American rating to be 16+, and companies really don't seem to want to market Guyver. And let's not forget the bane of every market's existence: the economy. With the economy going to crap, not many people are paying for small entertainment stuff like graphic novels and such. With the prices of every necessity of life going up, there's not much left in the bank for random splurges or unneeded things. The audience is also shifting to more novel to graphic novel adaptions of certain serieses (ex. Maximum Ride, Cirque du Freak) with a western reading format that western folks are used to reading in. Quote
*Chernaudi Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Also, those series is aimed at teens in North America and Europe, where stories like that are very popular and the original novels were big hits. Even the Twilight Saga graphic novels have done well. The biggest issue for Guyver IMO is its monthly format. With new chapters/portion of chapters getting released every month, it's hard to build up momentum unless something really earth shattering happens. Having it be once a month and having relatively little material released just screams for more material to tide readers over or a release of new material more frequently. The current format just prolongs the wait, and it can get tiring waiting for new material to come out, especially with the build up to when something cool is supposed to happen. Quote
Mirabilis Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 Yeah, I too am getting rather impatient and flustered with how long the story is dragging on, but even outside of the manga comics themselves, I don't see why they don't air the animes or anything, it's rather mind boggling to me. I mean, it's not like it's going to garner a follow unless they try to air it or something right? 1 Quote
Lord Uziel Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) I have to say that I'm lucky because in Italy we have Starcomics (http://www.starcomics.com/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1). This company is publishing a lot of mangas and guyver is one of them. Guyver started to be released monthly since 1994 (http://www.starcomics.com/ShopDetail.aspx?Titolo=56) till we reached the japanese release. Luckily they continue to publish it on a different manga collection called "Storie di KAPPA" (I would translate is in KAPPA's tales) . This is a collection of all the mangas that haven't any more a "real" publishing schedule, or mangas that aren't that famous (or anymore famous) but they still have fans that started the series and are still willing to buy it (like guyver), basically realasing them when they have a full tankabon (is this the name for a collection of different chapters, right?). This is the last volume of Guyver realeased in June 2014 , 176 pages. The previous one was relased in May 2013. I don't understand why in Italy we are able to publishing it and in US not though Us is a bigger market. I could be that comics are one of the main reason of it. Italy doesn't have such strong comic culture as US (I started to read mangas before comics. I think that I got to know comics through television before paper, with this ... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059968/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) and maybe that's why mangas were able to have a better selling window. Edited August 1, 2014 by Lord Uziel Quote
Guest Diespiter Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Yeah, I too am getting rather impatient and flustered with how long the story is dragging on, but even outside of the manga comics themselves, I don't see why they don't air the animes or anything, it's rather mind boggling to me. I mean, it's not like it's going to garner a follow unless they try to air it or something right? The manga has to be a success. If the manga makes it to become an Anime, That anime has to have perfect ratings before another season is cleared. Also, Japan has horrible television programs to begin with. There are too many Japanese programs that are widely based on food and singing programs of all things. Television in Japan, is down right horrible. Anime is in the minority believe it or not. Most anime shows only get one season to begin with if that answers your question. RocketNews 24 : http://en.rocketnews24.com/category/japan/ Its a popular media in Japan. It widely covers anime media as well as everything else in Japan. Guyver did make it as a 2005 anime after all. Its very common in Japan that most shows; including anime only get one season. I think the decision for an anime adaption to be a long runner or multiple season is decided beforehand and it's made by the people in charge in anime studios not by the manga or anyone from the magazine it came from. At some point, the anime adaptation of a long-running manga will catch up with the manga - the animation studio simply can't churn out new episodes at the same rate that the manga writes new chapters. So they have a couple of options: 1) end the series there (and maybe make a sequel when there's enough material to adapt) 2) air filler, anime-only material. (examples: Naruto and Bleach.) 3) Have the anime's plot diverge significantly from the manga's. (examples: the first Fullmetal Alchemist anime, Claymore, Hellsing) But I don't know who makes the final decision. I think that it's the anime studio executives and not the manga studio. Quote
daveblackeye152 Posted August 2, 2014 Posted August 2, 2014 Guyver is that friend I still have after all these years. I worry it won't end properly sometimes I admit. Oh yeah I better order book 30 since I got paid. Quote
alkanfel009 Posted August 2, 2014 Posted August 2, 2014 I think most of these comments are fine, but I have a suggestion donot poque someone would think that it is absolutely necessary that the sleeve takaya history of less than one month, if I despair abeses time, but they parese this, create a small spin off for guyver,. do not misunderstand me, I say that I stop making history takaya, but hire a couple of manga artists to draw random or related these stories to perosonajes as alkanphel, murakami, Tetsuro Aptom, etc. etc.. ETC. so we could have more material and if the guyver series elemneto but is alternating, something more to attract more audience possible, could result if takaya is sooooo slow month for item shows why not have a couple of assistants to develop a manga to be published fortnightly, so we would have more waiting between material ams pocible be one story like excel saga would love to see or investigate more clearly the creators simply have so many opportunities that does not give me the time to say how many stories could create, Valkyrie girl with his older brother's life and Tetsuro Year mizuki no sho, in order much, what to do, and I think I only need to be asked, I think if more people did something like this would be better for the publication, pd. micha I think people do not like the manga for 3 things, 1. slow, takes too long to be released, 2. the simplesa of the arguemnto and multiple faults, 3, some of the characters are cliches, do not misunderstand me guyver was is and always will be my favorite manga but even so I am the first to say that sho protagonist seems a little bland, 1 Quote
Super Existence Posted August 2, 2014 Posted August 2, 2014 I feel lately the chapters are getting smaller and very little happening in each one, I feel this has been the case since Valkyria came into it. It's like 3 chapters makes up a good full fat read. Quote
xtro guyver Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 At the end of the day, Guyver DOESN'T deliver. that is the main problem and is why many people lose interest. I've been following Guyver since I was twelve years old and it is still not finished. not because it's massive and epic, but because the mangaka is SLOW and releases such a SMALL amount of material. I won't hear excuses for him any more. he even has an assistant. Ever month when it comes to Guyver release, I am disappointed. it is a total let down. we are being drip fed this manga and it is just depleting all the impact it might otherwise have. I am seriously considering just releasing the monthly chapter to the pre-orders and not even reading it myself because I want some damn substance. This is why Guyver is not popular. any time anyone sees Guyver they see a story that is not finished and doesn't look like it'll be finished in any decent pace. They see it has taken almost 30 years to release an amount of story that would fit in a series of 52 episodes. and it's not finished. I like that Guyver is not finished for the sole reason that I can continue to provide for you guys with this website. it is a big part of my life and I would miss it if it were not here. But it is so damn frustrating that Guyver is really so very unsatisfying. Guyver is a great story, I love it more than most other stories. But let me ask you about another great story, Harry potter. how would you feel if you could only read a page per week? Would it have been a global success? no of course not. it would have bombed. While I will always love guyver, this sums up how I feel about the very slow release of content, a problem that berserk also shares. Compare this to a much more successful manga like Naruto. Naruto has been going since 1999, in english I have 65 volumes of manga. Currently the manga is on what is expected to be its final arc which may end by about christmas put the manga in the plus 70 volumes of content. Keep in mind Dragonball - DBZ was only 42 volumes long. While guyver has been going since 1985 and we have no idea how close it is to finishing and only just gotten past 30 volumes on content. Quote
*V Guyver Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Three more factors.1: It's not mainstream, even in Japan. It's a niche title by most standards. It doesn't have enough appeal to a larger audience in part because it has less access to people.2: It's viewed as Generic by those who come across it. Even if it's one of the very first in it's genre, it now looks like a copycat. It still suffers from having starting plot at the start that has been recycled over and over again by other manga. It doesn't stand out as much as other similar manga who tend to end faster. This gets worse over time despite it's evolution into something marvelous as far as development, design, and plot twists.3. Lack of young fans. Because of the above, it cannot gain enough new fans. Also as so many have pointed out, the slow pace of production of this series, further hinders the fan base and potential fan base. Quote
alkanfel009 Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 this may be something interesting to contemplate, I have wondered many veses barias things manga, fun facts and dates, ages of some characters and times or eras, so I have a question for everyone in this it's weird, and everything can be a mia confucion by poor translations but dr is the boats, the real, Amilcar Barca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilcar_Barca 1 Quote
Kanji Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 "and for really young kids, free-to-play is what they know." Yeah this is what I feel. I know you guys were trying to do a service to Takaya-san, by only making the scanlated chapters available to those who pay for the original work, but you won't know the number of casual fans I have spoken to on other forums who thought the series was on hiatus/cancelled after chapter 189 since they can't find it on the regular online manga sites (http://www.mangapanda.com/520/guyver.html) I have explained to them that they need to come here and order the volumes........but being casual readers, most just drop the title.......it's a real shame..... As they probably won't go on to support the series in future by buying merchandise, or spreading the word.........We live in such a throw away society these days that unless things are easily accessible, people don't have time for it.... Sales of the new Guyver I Figma will be a big indication as to the continued popularity of the series. Nowaday, the big money isn't made from the source, but from the franchise built around it. Take Toriko for example. TOEI animation ran the series for 2 years, with 100 episodes, but in the end it got cancelled because the merch wasn't selling!! The manga sales were still good, but people weren't buying the figures, the straps, the collectors cards, the video games, the branded clothing! I just only wish the Guyver manga was made more accessible again like it was in the past!! Quote
*Jess♥ Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 If those people can't be bothered to even check for a series existence I don't really think their opinion is worth anything. These are not the kind of people who would purchase an anime series or pay to watch a film of a series so why would any anime studio or film studio base any of their research on those people? the popularity of a franchise among people who have such a low passing interest in it is surely completely irrelevant? in short, who cares what they think? they can't even be bothered to check if it still exists, it's not as if they would take the time to tell anyone about it or promote it in any way. 1 Quote
Matt Bellamy Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 I am not going to do a full rant, as Ryuki's original post pretty much covers part of it. But here's the funny thing. A lot of 30+ year old Anime fans in North America remember the Guyver. Why? The first half of the OAV. And that was mainly due to the amount of blood and gore. This is why ADV touted the 2005 series as the "New Face of Ultra Violence". Guyver WOULD be more fondly remembered if it were something that was still known for tons of blood and gore ( like how Attack on Titan is so popular ). Guyvers general premise is fine... But is SO old that it has been done over and over again. Both in animation and tokusatsu. And it only seems to get a break in terms of publication because of how long it has been running. Readers don't care though. If they pick it up now and see how old it FEELS, they will drop it. They don't care for the intricacies of the plot that we've got to know, because they aren't going to bother reading too far into the series to even care. Now, if the manga was more like the OAV and was a lot bloodier, it probably would be more well known over the years... But due to it's age and content... It's only really average. Less than if you count how often and how much it gets updated. I will admit, it was the first 6 episodes on the OAV that got me into Guyver... but I BET I wouldn't even be in this community if I hadn't started doing fan fiction back then. Now of course I still want more, but it is certainly disheartening as a fan when it seems it'll only end when the creator dies. Berserk is another series I read that has the same release issues... But at least it is consistently 20-22 pages each chapter. None of this 10-16 page crap that we get with the Guyver, 3 Quote
river_chaos Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 Even for Attack On Titan they had to tone it down a bit for the TV series. The manga shows a lot more blood and people getting eaten alive (not indicating it; actually showing it). Quote
Hyper_Guyvantic Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I also think that it has to do with not only the dwindling delivery, but not enough people want to give Guyver a chance to hook them or they just dont give Guyver enough credit. One co-worker I am trying to get hooked on Guyver, who is a die-hard DBZ fan , said he just started watching Naruto another anime I couldnt get into and found pointless. If people are fans of DBZ, Marvel, DC, etc etc etc I also find just dont want anything to do with Guyver even if you debate with them that Guyver or any Zoalord could be just as strong if not stronger than their favorie superhero/villain. 2 Quote
Hyper_Guyvantic Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 Now this is a post from the heart which has been bugging me for the past few months. Even though I haven't been able to really keep up with the monthly chapters with college,work and trying to find a career, I am still passionate about Guyver and and treat it as if it were still new, so please hear me out: I think ultimately the fault begins and ends with us, as in the fans. I have been a solid Guyver fan since 1994 when I was 11 or 12 depending on when Dark Hero came out. While I agree with some of the views already posted I feel we have become to complacant as fans. We should be more vocal with the series to those who will listen to us, whether it is friends, co-workers, classmates, family, or possible movie directors we have to make them see the good of Guyver, especially now when movie companies are pumping out, whats the count now 8-10 Superhero movies a year. Infact look at Dragonball Z, the animated series ended in 1996 (Japanese dub) and 2003 (American Dub) but because the fans are so passionate for the series they made so many movies and a Series that I guess doesnt exist because it was so bad, I dont know, not a DBZ-Fan. A matter of fact, a few weeks ago I was called a "Complacant Red Commie Facist" by one of my fellow G-Fans on facebook because I am one of those who tell people to stop complaining about the release date (June 8th 2018 for those interested )for the sequel. But I have come to the conclusion, and if this offends any of my fellow fans I am sorry, that WE of the Guyver-Nation are the complacant ones. I have noticed that with the decline in material for each chapter that some people have come to accept that with it being almost a decade since the 2005 series came out, that we will NEVER get a continuation of the series or new movie, especially when all people have to do now is just go to a website or two and download everything there is to Guyver - Anime, Movies, and Manga. But we as fans should not be that complacant. With preorders for Volume 31 on this very website, if 2005 covered from the first chapter of Volumn 1 to the first chapter of Volumn 10, WE HAVE ENOUGH MATERIAL for two to three seasons additional seasons. Even if they have to spread the content out alittle and change things I would be fine with that. There is enough material in which while filming the additional seasons, the creator of this series could still continue to pump them out. Think of it, it takes about a year to a year and a half to get a decent sized volume out, and due to the declining content being released, that by the time they got to the end of the third additional season for example (which would be season 4) they would have material for seasons 5-7. In fact just yesterday a fellow G-Fan and I were talking who is also into Guyver and he also said that he "doesnt understand why Guyver doesn't do well when it is pretty popular. And that they should do a new movie because it is well over due for one." I agree with him, we have movies like Iron-Man, Underworld, The Incredible Hulk, The Avengers, even Man of Steel to study how to feasibly protray a man in a suit of armor and people transforming into their battle forms. But if we are to get any more new seasons or movies it needs to interesting and be able to draw more people to the franchise. Because if they become fans they will go get the figures, the clothes, manga, anime, and live action films from the previous 29 years. I understand that Guyver isnt that popular with animes and mangas like Attack on Titan, Dragonball Z - which I find GREATLY overrated, Naruto, and all the other animes the kids are watching and reading today. But I argue this, isnt it our job to make the series popular? Isnt it our job to show the Japanese that regardless of where we are, that we are just as passionate for Guyver like we are for Godzilla, Dragonball, and other shows we get from them? Isnt it our job, which ties into my post on what we call ourselves, to self promote Guyver? I wear my Guyver shirt at least once every week? I get asked about the series every time I wear it. Hell I even have 3 co-workers who I am trying to get hooked into Guyver, which one of them is a DIE-HARD DBZ fan, DC/Marvel fan, and yet another G-Fan, who in my town maybe a even a bigger G-Fan than I am. I think we should have a designation in which we call ourselves in which we can pull people to our dark side like how G-Fans, Whovians, and Trekkies do. I think we should wear our Guyver gear proudly and promote it when ever we can to friends, classmates, co-workers, even family. And most of all I urge people to stop being so complacant and start being the voice of Guyver to get more seasons or even a new movies, only then if we work hard enough to make Guyver popular again we may get decent amounts of material in the comics, get a new season or even a new movie. But we have to be vocal to those who will hear us, especially in this age of "Comic-Book Movies." Only then, will we know for sure that even though we tried to bring Guyver back into the lime light it is one of those series that is not meant to withstand the test of time and fade into oblivian, but we tried. As I started this post, It starts with us and ends with us. We need to be doing MORE than what we have been doing. And before anyone says "well by all means go ahead," I have been writing fan mail to directors of movies and the companies asking that maybe in the near future if they could . . . "visit" the Guyver series and make a movie that does the franchise justice. I know the chances of them actually reading my letters is small, the chances of them responding is even slimmer, and the chances of them taking a risk on Guyver is microscoptic, but it is at least a start. Maybe if a movie company like say Legendary gets ENOUGH fan-mail respectfully asking for a Guyver movie to be done that could be that spark of hope for the series. Well its 3 AM here and I have class at 8 with a paper I still need to write so I wont bug you all for the rest of the night. But this is my view on why Guyver doesnt do so well. 1 Quote
Aether Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Now this is a post from the heart which has been bugging me for the past few months. I think ultimately the fault begins and ends with us, as in the fans. from a long time guyver fan like yourself since '94, all I can say is keep trying... I don't think its all on the fans its just we live in avery different time than when Guyver came out... to begin please dont knock DBZ or Naruto!! yes DBZ is pointless fighting but its awesome and Naruto is also awesome. DBZ is one of the things along with Akira that got me into manga in 92 and Naruto surpassed that as my favourite as it is more complex etc. and I suppose is this generations dbz... anyway... im not so sure what some of what you are on about with regards to Guyver is within the realms of possibility - comic book films don't equate manga/ anime films.... if Akira and Evangelion haven't been made yet then a big budget Guyver film is well off the cards, yeah DB got a film but it was crap in comparsion to its source material... our best hope is Steve Wang again or someone trying with that 'starter' thing or whatever it is and also 7 tv series!!??? I think series 2 (@26 eps) would take us up to the end of exceed long night vol 25... ( so want to see XD animated!!) and then after that it would depend on where the series goes next im not trying to be negative just realistic - I respect your enthusiasm and love for the Guyver... first and foremost Guver is manga and on that issue my realistic opinion is here http://www.japan-legend.com/forum/index.php/topic/7267-the-spectrum/page-4 post # 72 ive tried to inititate a couple of things in the past from email campaigns to maxfactory to new petitions on the site but there just doesn't seem to be that much interest to be brutally honest I just think we are lucky Guyver is still being published ...it has ceased publication twice before and if it were to do so now im not sure it would come back... any initiative to boost guyver sales I would think would come from an anniversary again and if there were any plans for the 30th year anniversary they would have been made by now and we may be pleasantly surprised next year (fingers crossed!!!!!!) with maybe tv series season 2 or an artbook (or getting takaya more staff so he can pump out more pages!!!) etc. there is the new Figma figure being released which is one positive at least !!! I say if you keep thinking of stuff and present it here those that are around will support you in what ways we can Edited October 1, 2014 by Aether Quote
*Jess♥ Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 do you remember when the max factory bio fighter collection came out? was it about the same time as the 2005 tv series? I think it was shortly before wasn't it? Quote
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