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Speaking of which 

 

but here is my  five marvel characters

(hero/villian) thats a problem with a "Guyver" unit . In no order and mainly focused on peak human condition: athletics, hand to hand combat skills-experiences & mental prowess. 

no gods, demi gods or extreme meta humans cause thats like arkenphel with a unit! (Duh!)

5.Sabertooth (trouble!)

4.Doom  (pray now)

3. Peter parker-Spider man (boosted!...Omfg!)

2. Captain America (its Cap!)

1.Shang Chi (the "MF" master of kung fu!)

 

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I was pleased with the characterisation of Thanos in this film.

I have read about the motivations of thanos in the comics and I was not disappointed with the changes made in this film.

of course there are always going to be changes and sometimes they are bad but I was happy with the changes in this film.  I could relate.

 

I was also very impressed with how each hero really pushed their limits and showed off their skills.

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My only question on a cynical level is this: if he did what he did to save life as a whole, why not use it to make more resources so that would not need to happen? Trying to be vague as to not give spoilers. 

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5 hours ago, Guyver1 said:

My only question on a cynical level is this: if he did what he did to save life as a whole, why not use it to make more resources so that would not need to happen? Trying to be vague as to not give spoilers. 

That's not how the Infinity Gauntlet and/or Infinity Stones work. With what he did, you saw the

gauntlet take some heavy damage

so imagine if he tried to do the "more resources" thing instead.

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On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 10:45 PM, Guyver1 said:

My only question on a cynical level is this: if he did what he did to save life as a whole, why not use it to make more resources so that would not need to happen? Trying to be vague as to not give spoilers. 

The answer is likely that  thats not what Thanos wants. 

 

If he did do such a thing what would be the outcome? Nothing but a temporary reprieve from the inevitable or the universe becoming dependent on him to fix their problems.  Thanos is not the kind for molly codling and enabling. He's harsh but fair and he wants others to stand on their own two feet. If you cannot do that then you should suffer the consequences of your inability. He not only wants to fix the problem but I think also set an example.

It somewhat reminds me of the rabbit creation story from Watership Down. When the rabbits multiplied without restraint and used up the lands resources as they pleased, their Deity, Frith, became angered and warned their leader that if he could not control his people then Frith would find ways to control them. When his warning fell on deaf ears he created predators such as the fox, the weasel and the cat to keep their population check. But he also gave a gift to the rabbits and told their leader...

"El-ahrairah, your people cannot rule the world, for I will not have it so. All the world will be your enemy, Prince With A Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first, they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed."

Another such lesson is in Journey to the West. Tripitaka and the Monkey King are traveling on foot to India from China to fetch the sutras of "transcendence and persuasion for good will" back to the East which has fallen into wickedness. Now bare in mind that the Monkey King can fly on clouds and could easily go all the way and back in less then a day if he wanted to. But this is forbidden by the Buddha and the reason behind that is understandable. If the sutras were just given to people of China little would change, but through their struggles the heroes of the story lend a greater meaning to them. They set an example of others and a greater respect for the words of the sutras.

Thanos wants the people of the universe to be able to keep balance on their own, his act with the gauntlet is both punishment for not keeping balance on their own and an example of what is needed to achieve it. Hell part of the reason the heroes are beaten by him in the end is they are unwilling to make the sacrifices for their cause that Thanos will for his.

 

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8 hours ago, Salkafar said:

Yes, the Gems do seem more limited in the cinematic universe. Perhaps that is why he didn't go all-out with their power in the battles.

I don't think the gems are limited, the gauntlet is limited. it was made to channel the gems power as much as possible but if they are used too much it will be destroyed.

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Chaosavratheos: It would be nice if they had incorporated more of that into the movie. I don't know if I would call Thanos 'harsh but fair'. He could have made it more difficult for life forms to reproduce, thereby attaining what he intended, just a little later. Thanos is not just someone who does what is necessary... he is also cruel and destructive.

Tora Tan: It certainly seemed that way, the Gauntlet was practically destroyed.

They're gonna have to make a new one.

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2 hours ago, Salkafar said:

Chaosavratheos: It would be nice if they had incorporated more of that into the movie. I don't know if I would call Thanos 'harsh but fair'. He could have made it more difficult for life forms to reproduce, thereby attaining what he intended, just a little later. Thanos is not just someone who does what is necessary... he is also cruel and destructive.

I agree... 

that simple pulling a Genophage on all reality could work but is also something that could be worked round via technology or magic. Plus there's a good chance many worlds would still not take the hint. This way people will at least have the threat of being wiped out hanging over them to make the point. There are better ways of doing this kind of thing but Thanos's way is pretty dame effective.

On the second point, your right. I could rationalize most of his acts of cruelty being done response to acts of betrayal as with Loki, Nebula and even Gamora. Harsh but not undeserved from his perspective, but what he did to the dwarfs for example was cruelty without any provocation on their part. Even just killing them all would be understandable but leaving one alive and without hands served no purpose then just to make someone suffer.

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