KNOW YOUR ENEMY: how powerful is Guyot?

[Lindsay]

When fighting Archanfel, Guyot creates a "seven thousand exaton" synthetic black hole. An exaton is a thousand million million tons. Now, I've not studied maths or units since high school, so take all this with a pinch of salt…

The Earth's mass is about six thousand million million million tons. This rates his black hole at a bit more than a thousandth of an Earth mass.  

To convert energy into seven thousand exatons with perfect efficiency, Guyot would have to wield six hundred and thirty million million million million million million Joules. 

How much is this? Well, the most powerful weapon ever manufactured was the RDS-220 'Tsar Bomb' detonated by the Soviet Union in 1961. It had a fifty megaton yield, which equals two hundred and ten thousand million million Joules.

To create the synthetic black hole, it seems that at the bare minimum Guyot had to wield the equivalent energy of three thousand million million million Tsar Bombs. 

What if we account for inefficiency? Atomic weapons convert mass to energy with an efficiency of about 0.1%; for every kilogram of uranium, one gram is turned into ninety million million joules of energy. To create a mass of seven thousand exatons with this degree of efficiency, Guyot would need to wield the energy of a hundred and fifty million million million million million megatons of TNT. 

The density of TNT is 1.65 grams per cubic centimetre. That's a bomb the size of sixty million million Suns.

Guyot's Zoalord form is twice as tall as an adult human. A strong man's volume is about 80 litres. Applying a scale factor of 2, Guyot's Zoalord form is about 640 litres. Assuming Guyot's body is mostly made of water, it therefore takes about two and a half million joules to raise his body temperature by one degree Celsius. Creating a seven thousand exaton object from energy with the efficiency of a nuclear weapon would therefore raise his body temperature to a quarter of a million million million million million million Kelvin - equivalent to two hundred and fifty million Big Bangs. So, we can safely assume that Guyot's energy-mass efficiency is better than a nuke by a factor of several million!

And, of course, Archanfel can take this hit and come out of it able to kill two Guyvers with a wave of his hand. 

Who else in fiction has similar capabilities? 

In Star Trek, Romulans use artificial black holes as power sources. 

In Transformers, Megatron is capable of opening a miniature Space Bride that ends in a black hole and deposits its matter from his optics. 

In Super Mario Galaxy, Bowser weaponises miniature black holes as obstacles. Lumas are capable of pooling their power to dissipate supermassive black holes, presumably making their collective power several degrees of magnitude greater than that of Guyot and Barcas combined. 

In Doctor Who, Rassilon and Omega created a black hole to use as a power source for Gallifrey and TARDISes.

In DOTA, Enigma can wield black holes and may himself be a sentient singularity. 

In Metroid, Samus Aran can wield Dark Aether to create miniature black holes. 

In Warhammer 40,000, Vortex weapons create a rift to a parallel universe with the result of creating a localised and unpredictable event horizon. 

Edited November 2, 2016 by Lindsay

[Salkafar]

Marvel Comics' Graviton is capable of generating a black hole with his powers.

Well, what is the source of their power, ultimately? We don't know. Archanfel alone is so formidable one wonders what the Creators even needed the Zoanoids for.

Lending more fuel to my belief this 'war' was more like a cold war, being fought through 'war games'. Winner takes all.

[Gazham]

If they took a millennia to create man, that's one long war!

I suspect the creators would be extremely intelligent. Creating and shaping life would be a good use of such intelligence, especially if you had long life(not sure if we've heard about their life span yet?). But we still don't know much about the creators

[Salkafar]

Well, they didn't take millennia to make man. They took half a billion years. At least.

[Shin Mefilas]

Also I do wander about how they actually made life. Did they make everything that has ever existed, while constantly modifying their production in a manner that apes evolution or did they, in a similar fashion to the Engineers of the Alien franchise, seed earth then sit back and monitor the resulting lifeforms that developed while manipulating the environment to push them in the right direction?  At least until they were ready for the zoanoid development process.

The problem with trying to quantify zoalords is that they have many aspects which exceed the limitations of biology as we know it. All the zoanoids and hyper zoanoid, for the most part, still have limitations place on them my real world biology. Zoalord do not, their on power surpasses their bodies natural limits and energy requirements to the point that, without a zoa-crystal, they will rapidly age and die.

One thing is for shore, his Black Hole, if left to its own devices, will become powerful enough to destroy the earth and even the solar system. Hell it could even ravage others in time.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Supreme God Zamasu

[Cay]

Perhaps there are Galactic laws that prevent the manipulation of life that currently exists as well as laws that restrict conflict between with races that have Uranus level technology. Then it would make sense that they would have to recreate life from scratch. The Creators might have tried to find a loophole.

As for Zoalord power difference compared to basic zoanoids, I don't think the size of the difference matters. They could be millions of times stronger but I think Zoalords would be relevant even if they were weaker than basic zoanoids. (Not possibly thought) I always saw it as a chain of command. Before I read through the manga and watched the 2005 anime, I thought Guyot and Barcus were actually very weak compared to zoanoids. I thought they just had the power to control them with psychic waves and nothing else. After reading through the manga several times, I wondered why the creators didn't have deterrents or other weapons (since they were forced to use Archanphel) that would prevent a failure like Guyver from happening. They must have really been confident in their mind control. 

If humans get intelligent enough, they would create their own army of warriors and command them to fight for the humans. It could have been a chain of command possibly like Other> Uranus > Zoalords, Zoanoids, and Humans > Other. Since creations would naturally follow their creators and time wasn't an issue, the creators seem to be on to something grand. They may have wanted to conquer the multiple galaxies by having their weapons create new weapons.

Either way, they failed when they the unit bonded with a human host.

Damn, now they have to start from scratch again.

Edited November 3, 2016 by Cay

[Gazham]

So many unanswered questions. Hopefully we get closure on the guyver in the next 10 years

[ROUGE]

It does beg the question though, perhaps it had something to do with him being the last Zoalord created.

Pity he now only has an artificial zoacrystal. When he was fully powered he actually made a great villain!

Edited November 3, 2016 by Forte

[BlackEpyon]

With the exception of Archanfel, Guyot is probably the strongest of the 12 Holy Warriors.  As he has the power to manipulate gravity.