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Ok so I love the idea of a fight between a Bio-Titan and Syn.

I'm pretty sure all of us know that its basically a close quarters fighter verses a long range fighter.

So I was thinking that it would be really interesting to see a battle between Syn equipped with a Battle Guyver Unit and a Bio-Titan with a Shadow Guyver unit. That would pretty much round out each characters powers and put them on very equal footing.

I'd imagine that each would be between 75x -100X a normal guyver in terms of power, which would be about 30-50% of the boost that would occur without the limiter.

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I'd imagine that each would be between 75x -100X a normal guyver in terms of power, which would be about 30-50% of the boost that would occur without the limiter.

Not exactly.

Both the Shadow Guyver and Battle Guyver units are modren Gen Tech. As such the max they would go to would be about equal to a Gigantic Guyver in raw power. Doesn't matter how powerful the host is the Limiation device is in both of these units. The only way to break that limit would be to have an already very powerful host, E.G. Alkanphel / Zeugma. But the main thing they would get from these Units then would be regeneration.

The fight though would still be cool. :D

I'd imagine Andre would sooner or later have a Syn v Bio-Titan fight....

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New gigantic guyver ratings though right, around 20x.

Originally I was going with how GPZ has only 40% of a normal boost, and how WGV had a 50% boost. So I was thinking it'd be reduced to about 25-35% when a unit was bonded to a high level hyper zoanoid.

Seeing as that's not totally correct, it would be that the boost from a modern guyver unit becomes exponentially less as the hosts become stronger. Right?

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New gigantic guyver ratings though right, around 20x. ?

Not exactly...

A Guyver now efectively has 3 stages and basically power levels.

1x the normal Guyver.

10x the Gigantic Guyver (in the past the fan-fiction put this at 2x which is where the power levels later on seem stupidly extreame - the rewrite will correct this).

20/25x the Gigantic Exceed.

So if I say Gigantic in power level I basically mean 10x.

Originally I was going with how GPZ has only 40% of a normal boost, and how WGV had a 50% boost. So I was thinking it'd be reduced to about 25-35% when a unit was bonded to a high level hyper zoanoid.

Seeing as that's not totally correct, it would be that the boost from a modern guyver unit becomes exponentially less as the hosts become stronger. Right?

There are some things to consider here. Krullnar doesn't stick to hard to the rules like his father. The GPZ is more powerful than he should be. He is there to kill the other test Units and push them to the limits. Guyver Zerabubuse was like him, but has already being killed by Dreadnought.

WGV doesn't have a 50% boost. In Zoanoid from apart from his pods he is basically no stronger than a Gigantic Guyver. What gives him his real firepower is what makes him a bioloaster Zoanoid, the pods. They basically work like mega-smashers, that have a much higher recharge rate compared to a normal Warrior Guyver. Apart from that though he's not go much over even a human Warrior Guyver.

Warrior Guyver Thancrus should be different in that he's got a Type 2 unit and zoanoid vibrational blades. He gets the close combat benifits of being a WG.

Together thats where they are going to cause havok in the future.

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Take away the hypersmasher pods and you just a very strong Warrior Guyver.

Going by the old datafiles which I don't think they'll change too much on these two, each have their strengths and weaknesses. Syn is perhaps the more agile and stealthy. Whereas the Bio Titan is stronger and perhaps overall more powerful. Regeneration would be roughly equal to each other as well.

Syn is also on average more skilled than your average Bio Titan I would think. So it would be a close long drawn out battle with tired, hurt Syn winning in the end.

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There is a point about the limitation device within the Gen units. Assuming that the WG2 universe has the same type of limitation device within their units as to the WG universe, they limit the bio potential of all hosts to a specific point. The question would be is it a percentage of the total potential or is a completely fixed limit no matter how powerful the unit or host would be?

It would also suggest the limitation device is limited in itself as well. Not taking into the random mutations each unit and host would be bring. Example would be the Warrior Guyver Vamore. Warrior Guyver Thancrus probably will have a mutation as well, probably the vibrational hands.

Another limit would be that it allows some bio potential to bleed through as opposed to being not bio boosting the subject beyond that of a nonenhanced human or not even activating on zoaforms. More likely would be that the Gen allow some flexibility. But it would beg the question on powerful a Warrior Guyver Alkanphel would be even with the limitation device. Perhaps as powerful more or less as the Guyver Zoalord?

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